Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Expansion storage cost from third-party providers has nothing to do with GamePass though
I know it does not, hence the pointing and chuckling

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Expansion storage cost from third-party providers has nothing to do with GamePass though
It still has one feature I doubt the normal NVME drives have. You can pull it out and take your games to a friend's house. It's totally hot swappable. It's very console like. Pretty surprising coming from a PC company. Hopefully the price will improve with time. I don't see it being $200 3 years from now.
Nonsense. You can fit a good 8-10 games on there. Just store the games you aren't playing on the external and when you're ready to play them copy them over. If you can't limit yourself to 8-10 games at one time then it's time to develop better gaming habits.Suddenly I’m not so sure the XBOX Series S is such a good deal now when you will inevitably run out of memory on it by installing like 3 games.
There’s a sale at Target if anyone is interested.
Yes. If the game isn't free you'd have to sign in. A small step which is easier than your friend buying the game and downloading it.I would imagine you would need to sign on to your account on your friends console.
Nonsense. You can fit a good 8-10 games on there. Just store the games you aren't playing on the external and when you're ready to play them copy them over. If you can't limit yourself to 8-10 games at one time then it's time to develop better gaming habits.
Around 250€.what are those prices for EU
319$?
go fuck yourself
Its an inconvenience Series S owners are going to have to suck it up and deal with. You paid for a $300 console and cost saving measures are necessary.It’s still an inconvenience and I have a feeling most AAA or even AA are going to take up more memory than this generation did. 50GB to 100GB will probably be average. I think the new COD will be around 150-200GB’s at least and who knows with something like GTA6.
How much free space are you really getting on a Series S? 330GB’s? Maybe 400GB’s generously speaking? It’s not so bad if you are playing smaller games, but you know most gamers will want to play those larger AAA games. Also, I could of sworn I heard deleting games consistently eventually damages the SSD.
Still 295$. I don't like it.Around 250€.
OP lists it for 220$ at best buy...Still 295$. I don't like it.
How is that a sign? PS5, XSX, Geforce 3080 and 3090 are sold out everywhere, but you can bet your left nut those won't be getting a price drop any time soon.Sold out now. At least it’s a good sign that you’ll probably see decent drops and sales over time.
In what world?50 -100GB can give you a good 8 -15 games to have on an XSX.
If it's 270€ or 250€ it's still a fuckton more than in $. Not just by numbers, but by exchange rate too.OP lists it for 220$ at best buy...![]()
In world where people can do math.In what world?
I see what you mean now but that old math didn't work out: 50-100GB does not give you 8-15 games.In world where people can do math.
50GB x 15 = 750GB
100GB x 8 = 800GB
since the XSX has about 800GB of freespace.
Ummm, yes it did.I see what you mean now but that old math didn't work out: 50-100GB does not give you 8-15 games.
Xbox One expandable storage has always been swappable. I could always take my external and hook it up to my friends Xbox One and play my games off of it.the hot swappable part is amazing but I can't justify spending that much on a card/stick.
Stop being a condescending prick and take your comment I read:Ummm, yes it did.
You can install roughly 15 games that are around 50GB. That's likely the upper limit.
You can install roughly 8 games that are around the 100GB. That's likely the lower limit.
This wasn't hard to figure out.
PeaceStop being a condescending prick and take your comment I read:
'50 -100GB can give you a good 8 -15 games to have on an XSX.'
I immediately checked my game folder and excluding the steam folder nothing is below 24.2GB.
It's fine that we spoke about different things but being a nutbag about it doesn't make a good discussion.
270€ ?
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ahh errr ummm I don't recall saying saying we couldn't do that on the X1Xbox One expandable storage has always been swappable. I could always take my external and hook it up to my friends Xbox One and play my games off of it.
It still has one feature I doubt the normal NVME drives have. You can pull it out and take your games to a friend's house. It's totally hot swappable. It's very console like. Pretty surprising coming from a PC company. Hopefully the price will improve with time. I don't see it being $200 3 years from now.
Or you can just bring the game disc itself and forget all the other BS excuses.Yes. If the game isn't free you'd have to sign in. A small step which is easier than your friend buying the game and downloading it.
Its an inconvenience Series S owners are going to have to suck it up and deal with. You paid for a $300 console and cost saving measures are necessary.
50 -100GB can give you a good 8 -15 games to have on an XSX.
Yes, constantly deleting will damage the SSD which is EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS WITH ANY STORAGE MEDIA! Everything eventually fails. But it requires YEARS of constant writing and rewriting to cause significant issues.
Typically when people identify something as amazing it usually means it hasn’t been done before.ahh errr ummm I don't recall saying saying we couldn't do that on the X1
The XSS is dead to me.You can probably install “close” to that number of games on an XSX, but I was talking about the XSS where the lack of memory could become an issue which makes the cheaper price point look less desirable when an external SSD is basically a necessity. Games probably started out much smaller in memory this generation compared to next generation which will lead to more space management at a much faster time frame, but we’ll see.
I was just saying, the XSS doesn’t seem like a great value if you download a lot of games or play AAA games mostly, but then again the XSS probably isn’t really marketed to those type of gamers anyway.
Those discs still require a download friend. That also assumes the game is available on disc.Or you can just bring the game disc itself and forget all the other BS excuses.
Another reason I can't get into a all digital future or console.
Looks like it isn't targeting you. It's not meant to be a console for the hardcore gamer. A causal fan will find its storage sufficient. Plus XSS games will be smaller with smart delivery.The XSS is dead to me.
Stiill much cheaper to download and most games will most likely come on disc.Those discs still require a download friend. That also assumes the game is available on disc.
It’s still an inconvenience and I have a feeling most AAA or even AA are going to take up more memory than this generation did. 50GB to 100GB will probably be average. I think the new COD will be around 150-200GB’s at least and who knows with something like GTA6.
How much free space are you really getting on a Series S? 330GB’s? Maybe 400GB’s generously speaking? It’s not so bad if you are playing smaller games, but you know most gamers will want to play those larger AAA games. Also, I could of sworn I heard deleting games consistently eventually damages the SSD.
The formula below calculates SSD lifespan. The equation is write cycles x capacity, over SSD factor x data written per year. For example, we'll measure the Samsung 850 PRO, a TLC SSD with 1TB capacity.
Write Cycles = 3000
Capacity = 1TB (1000GB)
SSD factor: real amount of data to actual data written = estimate 5 Amount of data written to the drive per year = estimate 1500-2000GB.
Using these numbers, your equation will be 3000 (write cycles) x 1000 (GB capacity) / 5 (SSD factor) x 1750 (GB written to drive per year) = 342 years.
No one is saying that the SSD is going to be error-free for 342 years, or that the technology will exist anymore. But we can be reasonably certain that assuming these numbers, its oxide layer will last this long.
It still has one feature I doubt the normal NVME drives have. You can pull it out and take your games to a friend's house. It's totally hot swappable. It's very console like. Pretty surprising coming from a PC company. Hopefully the price will improve with time. I don't see it being $200 3 years from now.
As quiet as MS has become talking about it lately it seems to be dead to everyone. How much usable space is going to be available on the unit? 315GB is not going to cut it for an all digital console. Especially one that relies on Game Pass (that is the big selling point most people point out). At least I knew right away I was not going to be suckered into the S. Series X is a much better bargain and people should spend that extra $$ for storage on upgrading to the Series X.Looks like it isn't targeting you. It's not meant to be a console for the hardcore gamer. A causal fan will find its storage sufficient. Plus XSS games will be smaller with smart delivery.
Of course not. I can agree that XSS storage is a bit small, but XSX, no? 1TB is more than enough and Smart Delivery has a lot of potential. I recall reading (although Ill believe it when I see it) is that game installations contain many duplicate files for faster access, which could be eliminated in XSX and PS5, meaning game installation could get smaller. I will, of course, believe it when I see it.Those discs still require a download friend. That also assumes the game is available on disc.
Looks like it isn't targeting you. It's not meant to be a console for the hardcore gamer. A causal fan will find its storage sufficient. Plus XSS games will be smaller with smart delivery.
There is no way I'd use that thing without a big drive connected to it for storage. I was flummoxed at how fast my 1TB SSD arrived at a worrying 90GB free space but here we are.Of course not. I can agree that XSS storage is a bit small, but XSX, no? 1TB is more than enough and Smart Delivery has a lot of potential. I recall reading (although Ill believe it when I see it) is that game installations contain many duplicate files for faster access, which could be eliminated in XSX and PS5, meaning game installation could get smaller. I will, of course, believe it when I see it.
MS has gone back and forth promoting both of their consoles. A few weeks back they were showing the XSS running Dirt 5. We haven't seen the final storage for the XSS so it isn't clear if it will be a problem. Again for a casual fan it isn't likely that they'll have a system full of games. Maybe one or two and of course it still supports external hard drives and SSDs so you can swap in what you want. XSS is fine for its target audience.As quiet as MS has become talking about it lately it seems to be dead to everyone. How much usable space is going to be available on the unit? 315GB is not going to cut it for an all digital console. Especially one that relies on Game Pass (that is the big selling point most people point out). At least I knew right away I was not going to be suckered into the S. Series X is a much better bargain and people should spend that extra $$ for storage on upgrading to the Series X.