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[DJT123]

What my whole point is that you cant go wrong no matter what system you play on. They all have strengths and weaknesses.

People must think carefully about what they want to get out of their gaming setup. Console is too often the default option, imo, by virtue of being mass produced, standardised and marketed.

 

[NickFire]

I am perfectly fine with any company putting their game on any system, unless of course they gimp my system's version to make it run on something else.

 

[Bryank75]

As a PC gamer I think this is great, days are past when we got poor ports from consoles three years later.

*cough* I'm looking at you Horizon Zero Dawn.

Companies like EA fucked PC gaming up by buying companies like Westwood and then closing them down.
MS too took a lot of companies from PC to work on their console war and now it seems things cannot be undone easily.

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

Well that's why I said to have a high end model. So console enthusiasts like me have an other option and to attract PC gamers with a high performance option rather than spending dev time and money on ports.

But the basic model is what gets the tech into the hands of the masses, so it will always come first.
The number of customers is needed to leverage the platforms strength and that in turn funds great games.

That's why I think Valve and Nvidia should at least fund or make one or two exclusives every once in a while...for PC.

Then if they wanted to bring them to console, PS could reciprocate.

That would work only for console players though.


It's like a PC gamer has a budget of X amount of money. They could go balls to the wall with a build, or they could get a lower end ps5 pro X machine, with less performance, for the same price.

It's like buying Alienware, or building a much better PC, for the same price.

 

[BlueXImpulse]

Do PCMR actually want the game to enjoy it? Or is it just to gloat at console gamers?

 

[Iced Arcade]

As an exclusive console gamer whose primary console is xbox... I lost absolutely nothing with games going to PC. List warriors would lose out but that is about it.

It also isn't pushing me to PC... I enjoy just plugging in a little 500 or below box into my tv and gaming. Spending a couple grand and hundreds every second year until upgrading my PC because the actual hobby over gaming isn't my bag. (I get that some love it).

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

Do PCMR actually want the game to enjoy it? Or is it just to gloat at console gamers?

Do console warriors really like their exclusives games? Or is it to just gloat at "We have this game, what do YOU have?!"?

Look at horizon and death stranding. " The best games ever!!", That was until they released the better versions on PC, then those games became "so-so", by the same crowd that was claiming them to be the best. Was that because they aren't exclusive anymore?

Makes you wonder...

 

[Reindeer]

i would argue gaming on console was more expensive long term last generation. How many people bought multiple base module systems? Did you also buy the pro model? Pay for online? How many games did you buy at launch since they were all full price then. That stuff all adds up.

Launch games on pc are generally $48 or less. Free online, bundles, massive sales from 3rd party sites, and no one but yourself decides to upgrade. That $1200 you spend at the start doesn't look so bad now.

It's kinda funny how when console gamers argue about this they always bring up hardware price difference and ignore the $420 they pay just for online over a course of generation and few hundred more for higher priced games. I think both sets of players probably pay around the same by the end of the gen, but on PC you get way more benefits like emulation, being able to dictate framerate and resolution, mods, etc. Consoles do have one thing over PC and that's exclusives, but price advantage isn't it.

 

[N30RYU]

This has never been more clear that all the media are biased sony.

Why the fuck should sony confirm or deny the duration of an exclusivity?

 

[Bryank75]

As an exclusive console gamer whose primary console is xbox... I lost absolutely nothing with games going to PC. List warriors would lose out but that is about it.

It also isn't pushing me to PC... I enjoy just plugging in a little 500 or below box into my tv and gaming. Spending a couple grand and hundreds every second year until upgrading my PC because the actual hobby over gaming isn't my bag. (I get that some love it).

You did lose... you just don't know it yet.

MS have a stake in PC and their games are not setting the world alight right now either. So the impact was never going to be as big.

For contrast Nintendo would never consider this...

 

[VALCON 82]

PC gamers get the best version of each game. Where do you form your opinions from? Your ass? What console port this gen plays better than the PC version? Name some big hitters and I'll concede (I know you can't)

While this is true, PC versions are also the most likely to NOT be paid for ( i don't play on PC... anymore but took full advantage of it back when i did)

 

[Raonak]

Sony:

 

[Fake]

Dat console wars article.

 

[TaylorSwiftFan]

Unlike consoles, PC can be whatever you want. Some don't care for the flashy lighting, so it can be turned off. Unlike how each ps5 looks and runs exactly the same.

I much rather have the choice of what clothing to wear, what food to eat, I dictate my own decisions. I don't like to be told how to play my game, what settings, framerate, resolution, etc. You don't have that on console. You don't even have control of using your old DS4 on ps5. I can hook up a SNES controller on the other hand and play games from generations before that, and next gen games as well.

That comparison to clothing is poor. You don’t choose what the clothing looks like, you only choose a different clothing. You still have no choice once you’ve chosen that clothing. Same as a phone, as a TV, a fridge, etc.

Also, I don’t think you can make a gaming PC look good in a living room.

 

[Bryank75]

That would work only for console players though.


It's like a PC gamer has a budget of X amount of money. They could go balls to the wall with a build, or they could get a lower end ps5 pro X machine, with less performance, for the same price.

It's like buying Alienware, or building a much better PC, for the same price.

But at least then a gamer could look at the two platforms based on games and performance would not be a major consideration anymore.

I'm getting a rig with a 3080 BTW... but just for drawing and stuff. Maybe playing a few strategy games. So you can do both, it is expensive though.

 

[mckmas8808]

Do console warriors really like their exclusives games? Or is it to just gloat at "We have this game, what do YOU have?!"?

Look at horizon and death stranding. " The best games ever!!", That was until they released the better versions on PC, then those games became "so-so", by the same crowd that was claiming them to be the best. Was that because they aren't exclusive anymore?

Makes you wonder...

I think almost all console gamers actually like the exclusives they play. Be it for PS4, Xbox One, or Switch.

 

[Alphagear]

If you really want to play a game then buy the platform.

Don't understand the PCMR. You have money to spend on powerful rigs then beg for ports because you don't wanna buy a cheap console.

 

[Knitted Knight]

When port-begging goes mainstream example #: 1245785226485. Novel way to drive website traffic... but they know their audience very well. Appealing to their lower instincts though......
Can't blame their hustle I guess.

You could buy the console you know?

So when is Bloodborne coming out on PC? It's been 6 years...

What about the The Last of Us, Uncharted 4... God of War, you want any of those?

So what are you excited about?

I see. Demon Souls Remake isn't going to PC though.

Sony clarified and confirmed it's not going to PC.

In 6 months, a year, 6 years?

 

[Guilty_AI]

Companies like EA fucked PC gaming up by buying companies like Westwood and then closing them down.
MS too took a lot of companies from PC to work on their console war and now it seems things cannot be undone easily.

What year is this?

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

That comparison to clothing is poor. You don’t choose what the clothing looks like, you only choose a different clothing. You still have no choice once you’ve chosen that clothing. Same as a phone, as a TV, a fridge, etc.

Also, I don’t think you can make a gaming PC look good in a living room.

With that being said, will your ps5 look different from Bryank75 ps5? What can you do different, put a skin on it, that others can purchase as well, and might even hurt the thermals of the machine?

Same with a phone, you just buy a case that several other hundreds may have. But I can guarantee no one else in the world has the exact same specs as my computer. From the hardware configuration, the choice of components, the brands that I picked, the cooling, lighting, etc.

You think ps5 will look good in the living room compared to a PC?

 

[Bryank75]

I think almost all console gamers actually like the exclusives they play. Be it for PS4, Xbox One, or Switch.

Yup, I have my Pro and a Switch cause of the games.

I buy whatever platform has the games. It is games driven...not performance driven.

The difference between performance and generations, is that generations have experience redefining features. Like the super fast SSD's and GPU's capable of Raytracing and CPU's that can allow more materials to be simulated or AI or crowds etc.

Every aspect pf PS5 is better than PS4 Pro in orders of magnitude.

 

[Iced Arcade]

You did lose... you just don't know it yet.

MS have a stake in PC and their games are not setting the world alight right now either. So the impact was never going to be as big.

For contrast Nintendo would never consider this...

I already mentioned you in my comment.

Going forward if you need a hug... I got you

 

[Bryank75]

I already mentioned you in my comment.

Going forward if you need a hug... I got you

Social distancing.

Also I don't do hugs.

 

[BlitzerRadic]

PCMR = Port begging Master Race

 

[00_Zer0]

Did Tecmo ever say if Nioh 2 is coming to PC? Also, I don't mind if console ports are late or not ported at all. I just want the effort put into getting the port right wth all the added extras PC gamers expect. One more thing....I thought it was funny that FF XVI listed on the debut trailer that it was running on PC, but represented the PS5 experience.

 

[Guilty_AI]

PCMR = Port begging Master Race

That'd be PBMR no?

 

[I Love Rock 'n' Roll]

PC gamers get the best version of each game. Where do you form your opinions from? Your ass? What console port this gen plays better than the PC version? Name some big hitters and I'll concede (I know you can't)

Play... most of the games play better on consoles.
Run... a different story and is based on the tech people own.

I don't get the emotion of pc people.

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

Play... most of the games play better on consoles.
Run... a different story and is based on the tech people own.

I don't get the emotion of pc people.

Play better, meaning...? Cause if it runs better on PC, it should play better as well. I'll look better, and feel much more responsive. Plus you have choice of peripherals, can stream simultaneously, ultrawide monitor, multiple monitors, etc. Whatever you want.

 

[Bryank75]

Play better, meaning...? Cause if it runs better on PC, it should play better as well. I'll look better, and feel much more responsive. Plus you have choice of peripherals, can stream simultaneously, ultrawide monitor, multiple monitors, etc. Whatever you want.

Yeah my bro had an ultrawide and it got destroyed by the settings on games... loads of dead pixels all over the sides.

I guess the whole 60fps advantage thing is gone and 120 in a lot of cases too.... so now it's just some arbitrary difference in performance. Ah well, it is a bit harder to sell for you anyway! haha

 

[mckmas8808]

PCMR = Port begging Master Race

100% truth. MY GOD! I miss the days when GAF would ban port beggers. It kills the vibe in so many gaming threads these days.

 

[Dr_Salt]

I like to play games when they're old. Said nobody ever. Pc gamers are the high school virgins who think they will get the hot girl. Yeah. After they're used up and old maybe.

A good game is a good game doesn't matter if its new or 10 years old. Too bad you console gamers can't experience the sheer ammount of titles you can access on PC. I don't even have time to finish my backlog waiting 6 months to play a game is nothing.

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

Yeah my bro had an ultrawide and it got destroyed by the settings on games... loads of dead pixels all over the sides.

I guess the whole 60fps advantage thing is gone and 120 in a lot of cases too.... so now it's just some arbitrary difference in performance. Ah well, it is a bit harder to sell for you anyway! haha

Never had those issues so it might just be your bro.

60fps is a standard like 10 years old. Even 144fps is old. There's 240fps and even 360fps now. So framerate is still beneficial plus the sheer power of the hardware.

100% truth. MY GOD! I miss the days when GAF would ban port beggers. It kills the vibe in so many gaming threads these days.

It's not begging when Sony themselves confirm the news, and we've been steadily getting more and more.

GAF should ban port defenders. They whine and cause so much drama, while praying on hands and knees to their favorite company, to not release all the upcoming games. So many threads created, full of mental breakdowns. Cringe.

 

[namekuseijin]

it's true

Microsoft won. It controls pc and all big gaming is running on pc in one way or another - even a capped, walled garden pc controlling what kind of upgrade you should get from your old games on brand-new hardware

I'm pissed with the direction new SIE is taking. Hope they fail.

 

[mckmas8808]

It's not begging when Sony themselves confirm the news, and we've been steadily getting more and more.

GAF should ban port defenders. They whine and cause so much drama, while praying on hands and knees to their favorite company, to not release all the upcoming games. So many threads created, full of mental breakdowns. Cringe.

It is begging when it's not been announced yet. And not all PS games are coming to PC. And the ones that are aren't coming out day and date with the Console version.

 

[Bryank75]

It is begging when it's not been announced yet. And not all PS games are coming to PC. And the ones that are aren't coming out day and date with the Console version.

How long has that Bloodborne leak been around.... YEARS!

 

[bender]

Dear PC Gamer,

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

It is begging when it's not been announced yet. And not all PS games are coming to PC. And the ones that are aren't coming out day and date with the Console version.

Sony announced Demon Souls for PC, albiet on accident, and the same ones who claimed horizon would be coming to PC, said GoW is next. So whether it be official or unofficial, there's plenty of weight to these claims.


Why do you feel you need to defend Sony for wanting to grow their business? If it's all about the games, why do you specifically care if PC players get to experience the best version of said game? Does it take away from your love and enjoyment of said game? I don't understand the gatekeeping logic. "Port begging" as you call it, simply means other people want to experience the game. The former only cares that others DON'T get to experience the game. Be honest with me and set your emotions aside, which is worse from a gamers perspective?

 

[The_Mike]

Companies like EA fucked PC gaming up by buying companies like Westwood and then closing them down.
MS too took a lot of companies from PC to work on their console war and now it seems things cannot be undone easily.

Had to look up in the sky to see if there were any flying pigs, cus I never thought I should agree with Bryank75.

To be fair though EA fucks every platform up with their games. Heavy microtransactions and low effort games like the new Madden with banners from last years game in it.

 

[MisterBrimstone]

Nothings clear cut in reality.

Best graphics
Best frame rate
Mods
Mouse and keyboard

Vs

Convenience (click and play)
Friends list/trophies all in same system.
Rumble
Quick resume
Exclusive/timed content
Controller
HDR support
Cost

what is this? From your list on the console section:

Convenience (click and play) - Granted.
Friends list/trophies all in same system. - ? Steam/Epic/Battle.net/Discord/Achievements/whatever you'd like on PC.
Rumble - Also on PC on whatever controller you'd like.
Quick resume - Granted.
Exclusive/timed content - Also on PC. It's full of exclusives.
Controller - Availability of whatever controller you'd like.
HDR support - Also on PC.
Cost - A mid end PC + Steam sales and free online vs a console with full priced games and paid online? We would need to do the math here.

 

[deriks]

Demon's Souls could be the next big step, and the key word is "could", but Final Fantasy has a lot of games on PC since VII. This articles is too much of epenis size than an actual thing

 

[mckmas8808]

Sony announced Demon Souls for PC, albiet on accident, and the same ones who claimed horizon would be coming to PC, said GoW is next. So whether it be official or unofficial, there's plenty of weight to these claims.


Why do you feel you need to defend Sony for wanting to grow their business? If it's all about the games, why do you specifically care if PC players get to experience the best version of said game? Does it take away from your love and enjoyment of said game? I don't understand the gatekeeping logic. "Port begging" as you call it, simply means other people want to experience the game. The former only cares that others DON'T get to experience the game. Be honest with me and set your emotions aside, which is worse from a gamers perspective?

I'm not defending Sony. I'm just tired of the port begging clogging up good threads about the games I like. Every PS exclusive thread gets clogged with "it's coming to PC" and then things go down the toilet.

 

[Bryank75]

Had to look up in the sky to see if there were any flying pigs, cus I never thought I should agree with Bryank75.

To be fair though EA fucks every platform up with their games. Heavy microtransactions and low effort games like the new Madden with banners from last years game in it.

Maybe you didn't know that I came from PC gaming a long time ago... back when Ground Control and Homeworld and Operation Flashpoint were the hot games.

 

[The_Mike]

what is this? From your list on the console section:

Convenience (click and play) - Granted.
Friends list/trophies all in same system. - ? Steam/Epic/Battle.net/Discord/Achievements/whatever you'd like on PC.
Rumble - Also on PC on whatever controller you'd like.
Quick resume - Granted.
Exclusive/timed content - Also on PC. It's full of exclusives.
Controller - Availability of whatever controller you'd like.
HDR support - Also on PC.
Cost - A mid end PC + Steam sales and free online vs a console with full priced games and paid online? We would need to do the math here.

Don't go into the console war. Fan boys tries so hard to find excuses for why their platform is better so they make some shit up they don't know anything about.

Some still thinks you have to install Windows on 800 floppy disks and that the whole system will break if you open a word document with note pad.

Maybe you didn't know that I came from PC gaming a long time ago... back when Ground Control and Homeworld and Operation Flashpoint were the hot games.

Ah. So you were a PC Gamer in the dinosaur time. Things have changed a lot since then

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

Had to look up in the sky to see if there were any flying pigs, cus I never thought I should agree with Bryank75.

To be fair though EA fucks every platform up with their games. Heavy microtransactions and low effort games like the new Madden with banners from last years game in it.

Not gonna lie, I felt that way the first time I agreed with Bryank75 , geordiemp , llien , and a few others.













I was like "this has got to be a dream"

I'm not defending Sony. I'm just tired of the port begging clogging up good threads about the games I like. Every PS exclusive thread gets clogged with "it's coming to PC" and then things go down the toilet.

There are way more threads defending why x,y,z aren't coming to PC. Any time there's a PC ssd thread, like the new Samsung 980 pro, any you'll have nothing but Sony fanboy saying how PC can't do this or that. Look at any Nvidia or Xbox thread, and these same warriors shit up the thread. Next gen speculation is like a 99:1 ratio of these same warriors.

Might wanna check out a new eye prescription is you think otherwise.

 

[MisterBrimstone]

Don't go into the console war. Fan boys tries so hard to find excuses for why their platform is better so they make some shit up they don't know anything about.

Some still thinks you have to install Windows on 800 floppy disks and that the whole system will break if you open a word document with note pad.

Yeah you are right. The dude was just so wrong with that comparison. Thanks for keeping me sane bro

 

[wolffy71]

People are so emotionally invested into their platform lol. Just breathe guys, these corporations are gonna be ok. You're gonna be ok.

 

[mckmas8808]

There are way more threads defending why x,y,z aren't coming to PC. Any time there's a PC ssd thread, like the new Samsung 980 pro, any you'll have nothing but Sony fanboy saying how PC can't do this or that. Look at any Nvidia or Xbox thread, and these same warriors shit up the thread. Next gen speculation is like a 99:1 ratio of these same warriors.

Might wanna check out a new eye prescription is you think otherwise.

I don't be in those threads, but that's equally annoying too.

 

[CrustyBritches]

While Sony guys were too busy tripping over the Xbox Discord(secretely lead by Phil from the shadows via proxy, namely TImdog), the PC Discord has been advancing our plans for nearly a decade to fully absorb all console exclusives through port-begging and emulation. In the next step, we will begin making demands of Sony for advanced features to make us feel justified about buying thousand dollar GPUs.

 

[diffusionx]

Demon Souls is obviously coming to PC. There is no way they designed a slide that said exactly that explicitly by accident. I too wish they would just admit it, it’s not as big a deal as the fanboys think it is.

"obfuscate reality" by explicitly writing that it's "available on PC."

Sure mate.

God, PC Gamer becomes more desperate the closer we get to the launch of the new consoles. These people are so (irrationally) afraid of becoming irrelevant that they're been writing the most inane crap for months.

“PC gaming is dying guys, for real this time”

 

[ACESHIGH]

Anything less is an insult to the customers who put them on top.

Who are those? Pirates during the ps1 and ps2 days? PS5 It should come with an additional blu ray burner then.