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RTX 2080 Ti Can Barely hit 30fps at 1080p ultra running Watch Dogs Legion

Bo_Hazem

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Watch Dogs: Legion on GeForce RTX 2080 Ti: 1080p can barely hit 30FPS
Ubisoft locked the preview build of Watch Dogs: Legion to 1080p 30FPS -- RTX 2080 Ti could barely handle that.

In their hands-on time with Watch Dogs: Legion, Digital Foundry may have been using the most powerful graphics card you can buy in the GeForce RTX 2080 Ti -- yet it couldn't handle the game at 1080p and anything over 30FPS. Ubisoft had locked Watch Dogs: Legion's preview build to 30FPS, for some stupid reason.





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Watch Dogs: Legion on GeForce RTX 2080 Ti: 1080p can barely hit 30FPS

Ubisoft locked the preview build of Watch Dogs: Legion to 1080p 30FPS -- RTX 2080 Ti could barely handle that.
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Optimistic Gamer

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Hmm looked pretty shitty on stream? Bad optimization?


R6Rider said:
"Performs abysmally" and "locked frame rate" are two different things.

It's like saying your Ferrari couldn't achieve 60mph in rush hour traffic.
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Saying "I locked your Ferrari to 60mph and it could barely handle that is a pretty clear information.
 
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R6Rider

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Optimistic Gamer said:
Hmm looked pretty shitty on stream? Bad optimization?



Saying "I locked your Ferrari to 60mph and it could barely handle that is a pretty clear information.
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I'm commenting on the actual title of the "article", which obviously isn't clear at all, like most articles.
 
Gavin Stevens

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With ray tracing, which is very expensive even on the 2080ti. Thankfully next gen consoles have their own special way of using ray tracing that doesn’t give a massive hit, one a hell of a lot more so than the other as it was a bigger focus in design.

Should make for an interesting comparison if nothing else.

The game itself looks very... I don’t know. I’m not sure. It doesn’t look my cup of tea but at the same time does. No idea, but will be waiting for a sale regardless.
 
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Denton

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Dumb thread is dumb, because most optimization happens just before launch and that is what they are doing. Same with Cyberpunk.
Obviously 2080Ti will not run it maxed out with RT in 4K@60, but I expect 1440p at 60 to be doable.
 
Stuart360

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Siri said:
Odyssey runs like a dream at 4K on an RTX 2080 TI - and the amount of detail is staggering. You’d need over a thousand people working on a game to pull that off.

Very few studios have that clout.
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I wouldnt really say it runs like a 'dream' at 4k on a 2080ti. it gets an average framerate of 50 in the benchmark, and can drop into the 30's in bigger cities.
 
Mister Wolf

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You guys are obsessed with judging raytracing performance before the game releases. It was the same case for Battlefield and Metro pre release. You were wrong then too. Also Watch Dogs in confirmed to have DLSS 2.0
 
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Reindeer

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RTX 20 Series GPUs as well as next gen consoles are gonna be real bad for Ray Tracing. The real ray tracing (60fps at high resolutions) will start with RTX 30 Series if the leaked ray tracing performance uptake is true. Nvidia GPUs will also have advantage of DLSS, something that consoles have no equivalent of.
 
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GetemMa

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welcome to ray tracing.

Battlefield V with Ray Tracing turned on pushes a 2080ti to it's limits and it never hits stable 60 FPS, at 1080p. Yes 1080p.....not 4k.

That's why this notion that the new consoles will knock out AAA games at native 4K/60fps plus Ray Tracing is a joke. Only in the most simple indie game would that be possible.

Subnative 4k resolutions (likely 1440p upscaled), 30fps., and raytracing is the combo you are likely to see most next gen. Maybe Raytracing will get better on the software side as we go, but I wouldn't expect some sort of huge change with regards to target resolution and performance on next gen consoles.

Hope they give you the option to switch Ray Tracing on/off in most games because implementation will vary. Look at videos that compare Control with Ray Tracing turned on and off. It's up to you if you think the difference is worth it. IMO it is not worth annihilating your performance over.
 
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Siri

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Stuart360 said:
I wouldnt really say it runs like a 'dream' at 4k on a 2080ti. it gets an average framerate of 50 in the benchmark, and can drop into the 30's in bigger cities.
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I hate to say this.... but there’s something wrong with your system. I run this game at a constant 60 FPS at max settings, even in the crowded cities.

Is this a CPU problem by any chance. Something’s definitely off there. I’ve never come close to seeing a drop into the 30’s.
 
hyperbertha

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No surprises there. Top of the line GPUs can't overcome bad optimization inherent in PCs. RTX 2080 fully stressed still won't look much different than top console games running on much worse hardware, Last of us 2 being case in point. Horizon zero dawns minimum requirments on PC vs base ps4's specs should tell you all you need to know. Returns are low on PC.
 
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Siri

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Wait... ray-tracing was enabled?

Oh well, forget about it then. That feature, which is stunning, really is the way of the future.... but all we’re getting right now is a taste of it. It’s only half-baked right now.

Performance needs to be increased twenty-fold. Any game using it right now will cripple any present gen RTX card.
 
Stuart360

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Siri said:
I hate to say this.... but there’s something wrong with your system. I run this game at a constant 60 FPS at max settings, even in the crowded cities.

Is this a CPU problem by any chance. Something’s definitely off there. I’ve never come close to seeing a drop into the 30’s.
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No i dont have a 2080ti (i wish). There are plenty of vids on Youtube., like this one for example -



There are other vids of actual gameplay where the game tends to be in the 55-70 range in the wilderness, and 40-60 range in villages and cutscens etc.
 
SoggyBiscuit

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It was WIP code and not even necessarily the most recent version. I'm sure there are optimisations to be made still.

RT is expensive, and I'm not sure I could name other open world titles that support RT'd reflections. So, give them time.
 
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Siri

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Stuart360 said:
No i dont have a 2080ti (i wish). There are plenty of vids on Youtube., like this one for example -



There are other vids of actual gameplay where the game tends to be in the 55-70 range in the wilderness, and 40-60 range in villages and cutscens etc.
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The present version of the game has addressed all of this.
 
Spukc

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my 2080ti and 9900k couldnt even max out borderlands 3 @3440x1440 and a stable fucking 60 fps. i returned that shit within 2 days
 
LordCBH

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How poorly optimized was the build?
Edit: ah. Ray tracing. Initial post didn’t make that too clear.
 
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The Cockatrice

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There are a lot of video settings that Ubi games put which eat ton of frames and the visual impact is minimal. It's always been the case with all their games. In Odyssey it was the clouds. The difference between High and Very High/Ultra was around 30 frames and the visual was just a bit less density which you would not evne notice in normal gameplay conditions. RT shadows and reflections are also something you'll barely use in gameplay scenarios. RT lighting is another thing tho.
 
skneogaf

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It's an interesting post this as the OP is fanatical about the weakest of the 3 systems this will be on.

Xbox series x will obviously have the best console version of this game.

The pc version on my own system which is currently a 2080ti but will be a 3080ti asap will likely be played at maximum settings.

The fact it was shown on a pc says its currently unplayable on a console of any sorts just yet.
 
Mister Wolf

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GetemMa said:
welcome to ray tracing.

Battlefield V with Ray Tracing turned on pushes a 2080ti to it's limits and it never hits stable 60 FPS, at 1080p. Yes 1080p.....not 4k.

That's why this notion that the new consoles will knock out AAA games at native 4K/60fps plus Ray Tracing is a joke. Only in the most simple indie game would that be possible.

Subnative 4k resolutions (likely 1440p upscaled), 30fps., and raytracing is the combo you are likely to see most next gen. Maybe Raytracing will get better on the software side as we go, but I wouldn't expect some sort of huge change with regards to target resolution and performance on next gen consoles.

Hope they give you the option to switch Ray Tracing on/off in most games because implementation will vary. Look at videos that compare Control with Ray Tracing turned on and off. It's up to you if you think the difference is worth it. IMO it is not worth annihilating your performance over.
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Battlefield RTX benchmarks from Techspot:

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Bo_Hazem

Bo_Hazem

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skneogaf said:
It's an interesting post this as the OP is fanatical about the weakest of the 3 systems this will be on.

Xbox series x will obviously have the best console version of this game.

The pc version on my own system which is currently a 2080ti but will be a 3080ti asap will likely be played at maximum settings.

The fact it was shown on a pc says its currently unplayable on a console of any sorts just yet.
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My PC though...

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Radeon VII, Ryzen 7 2700x, 32GB RAM, 1TB 3.5GB/s Samsung 970 Pro, 2TB WD SATA3 SSD, etc. I can buy 2x 2080Ti today if I want to, went for Radeon VII for 16GB VRAM and HBM2 1TB/s bandwidth for productivity not gaming.
 
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Skyr

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skneogaf said:
It's an interesting post this as the OP is fanatical about the weakest of the 3 systems this will be on.

Xbox series x will obviously have the best console version of this game.

The pc version on my own system which is currently a 2080ti but will be a 3080ti asap will likely be played at maximum settings.

The fact it was shown on a pc says its currently unplayable on a console of any sorts just yet.
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No you are wrong. The ssd will brute force the ray tracing effects by herself.
 
Jtibh

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Ubisoft cant code for shit as always.

Vallhala is also locked 30fps

Not saying 2080ti cant do more

But like in the past consoles can perform better then equal pc cards and not just by a little.

This is why i rather settle for a $500 console and expect nothing rather than spending 1000 plus on pc and find out its not even being fully used and still get almost identical results to the cheaper alternative.

Pc gaming is a waste of money. I used to be a pc gamer few years prior to ps3.
Enjoyed all the pc exclusives like half life 2 soldiers of fortune 2 doom3 alien vs predator2 stalker plus many many more till ps3 showed up.
But i spent thousands on it. Back then i didnt care it was my only thing to do.
But now i just cant justify the cost.
 
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