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RTX 2080 Ti Can Barely hit 30fps at 1080p ultra running Watch Dogs Legion
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
tbh if i just dunked 1300 on a card and couldn't max out borderlands 3 i would be disappointed
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Yes in general with each new console generation you have to upgrade your graphics card if you want to really get ahead of the curve on details/performance.
R6Rider
Gold Member
I always thought 2 looked pretty good, so if it matches that then I'm fine with how it looks. They actually put a lot of details into WD2's world and it made a huge difference, so I'm hoping for the same thing here.
Mister Wolf
Member
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Watch Dogs 2 is also the most terrible and abysmal Ubi PC port ever with absolutely insane CPU / GPU usage / temps and requirements. I can't help but to expect even worse from Legion.
ZywyPL
Banned
You really don't need such a beefy PC to post on Neogaf. Unless there's some other productivity you do that we aren't aware off ;p
Ya know, no matter how bad my life gets, I'll always take solace in the fact that at least I'm not you.
Ass of Can Whooping
Banned
Multiple instances of koikatsu party to ensure all my waifus get their tlc
IntentionalPun
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"Maxing out" is rather meaningless on it's own. PC devs include all kinds of settings that might not be ready for prime time, or combinations of settings that cause performance hits with little noticeable benefit.
I personally most of the time just let GeForce Experience choose my settings and go from there. Removes the complexity as I honestly don't care THAT MUCH about level of detail; just want good performance and good enough detail.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
I know i know but getting the near best GPU for your money and not being able to do stable 60 kinda ruins it imo
ScaryBrandon
Banned
Not at all. For the graphics you get performance is on point. Runs pretty smooth on any decent gaming rig.
IntentionalPun
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*shrug*
Lower a few settings. It's often nothing that actually matters visually; or if it does.. just means that the game is pushing beyond limits, which isn't a bad thing. Something to look forward to for the next gen of cards. The point of PC gaming is to offer these options for flexibility and sometimes to future proof. Alternatively the dev removes the setting completely and nobody can even try it out 5-6 years later on new cards.
Some devs remove these kind of settings from UIs but still allow them through INI files and the like.
Stuart360
Member
It is super demanding PC wise. In fact it was the most demanding game cpu wise, until Assassins Creed Odyssey. When WatchDogs 2 first released, tech sites started using the game to benchmark cpu's, and did for a couple of years.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Gold Member
Well yeah, consoles generally have a fixed spec. One, maybe two targets at most going by what we saw this generation. But that's the main reason (plus justification of large budgets due to system saturation in market sales) that are biggest driving factors by far.
It's not due to differing architectures versus PCs because honestly there's nothing much to either next-gen system that isn't architecturally different to what you can find on PC. The closest is maybe Tempest Engine if indeed it's designed to act more like a Cell SPE, but it would just be a thing which is there. It being present wouldn't automatically equal better games by default.
Knightime_X
Member
So locked to 30fps or can't hit 30fps?
Which is it?
Big difference.
Which is it?
Big difference.
The Pleasure
Member
Lol pc gaming gods
IntentionalPun
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It was locked.
Likely to stop DF from doing any real performance analysis.. since the game isn't out for months, Ubisoft doesn't want pointless data out there about their pre-release game.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
AC Origins looks way better and here's performance I get in 99% max settings in native 1080p.
8700K @4.8 GHz All Cores, 3600MHz RAM, 1080Ti. No, it doesn't
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newtypepilot
Member
ubisoft
optimized pc games
pick one lol
optimized pc games
pick one lol
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Well, it helps with DaVinci Resolve when you crunch videos for timelapse that can reach like 4K@1000+fps to make like 1-2 minutes into few seconds. And rendering is pretty fast as well
. It helps to open like 50-100 tabs at once to check all the alerts. 
Krappadizzle
Gold Member
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Are you really pretending you PC game in this thread dude? IIRC you've never even tried to play a game on that rig..My PC though...
Radeon VII, Ryzen 7 2700x, 32GB RAM, 1TB 3.5GB/s Samsung 970 Pro, 2TB WD SATA3 SSD, etc. I can buy 2x 2080Ti today if I want to, went for Radeon VII for 16GB VRAM and HBM2 1TB/s bandwidth for productivity not gaming.
Like WTF Bo.. this shit is some lame console warrior BS thread.
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
An unreleased game doesn't run well even on powerful hardware? I'm shocked. Completely shocked. Come on, guys. This shit isn't even remotely optimized yet. On release, if it still runs shit on a 2080ti then we can talk again.
Ass of Can Whooping
Banned
Yeh they'll just pirate it lel
GlockSaint
Member
How? The game looks like a mid gen ps3 game at best. Probably gonna be optimized later.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
What's your problem though? Why are you so worked up? I said that I don't game on my PC, it's a choice, I can build a 2080Ti PC next to it today if that's my thing.
If you got a problem with the article, you may contact all those journalists:
Watch Dogs: Legion on GeForce RTX 2080 Ti: 1080p can barely hit 30FPS
Ubisoft locked the preview build of Watch Dogs: Legion to 1080p 30FPS -- RTX 2080 Ti could barely handle that.
www.tweaktown.com
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti performs abysmally in Watch Dogs Legion demo: preview locked to 1080p/30 FPS with ray-tracing enabled
NVIDIA’s top-end Turing card, the US$1400 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti, couldn’t even run Ubisoft’s Watch Dogs Legion at 1080p/60 FPS with ray-tracing effects turned on. This leads to speculation that users might need Ampere or Big Navi cards to properly experience ray-tracing in next-generation titles.
www.notebookcheck.net
Watch Dogs Legion Preview Couldn't Maintain 1080p@60 FPS with Ray Tracing Enabled and an RTX 2080Ti
The Watch Dogs Legion preview build couldn't maintain a steady 1080p@60 frames per second with ray traced reflections on a PC with RTX 2080Ti
wccftech.com
Even the RTX 2080 Ti struggles with Watch Dogs: Legion at 60fps in 1080p
Ubisoft showed off some more gameplay footage of Watch Dogs: Legion at its Forward event yesterday, the same day that Digital Foundry uploaded a video of an...
www.techspot.com
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V4skunk
Banned
It isn't worth $50 so why not.
Manwithoutfear
Member
it does? it doesnt look like it can even achieve 4k 60 locked on ultra settings. i wouldnt call that "runs like a dream".
Assassin's Creed Odyssey: Benchmark Performance Analysis
Assasin's Creed Odyssey is this year's version of the epic series and takes you to ancient Greece. We tested the game at 1080p, 1440p and 4K using a large selection of graphics cards, including the RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Ti. We also investigated VRAM requirements and CPU performance scaling.
b0uncyfr0
Member
How are some people calling this game good looking? Sure, it has some ok looking scene's but from what i've seen :
- Aliasing is absolute shit! They have TAA on - which is MSAA (i hope it's only 2x) + FXAA and there are still a shitton of jaggies everywhere . Imagine with just FXAA on lower hardware, you're fucked.
- Some character textures look very dated ( extremely blocky/sqaure ). To me, 2 looked better in this area. It seem's there is quite a variety of low res + high res going on. To be fair, it could be the video so ill reserve judgement on that.
- Not even 60 fps but 30 fps with RT on a 2080Ti. They dont even add that much visually. You could crank up the efx/res and make it look much better. RT can fuck right off.
- DF dude mentions pop-in is good - go to 4:53 ( Guard pops in out of nowhere from shaded pixels). Mustve missed that or was it just a one off :| ?
- No mention of DLSS?
Legion looks bad and dont forget WD2 had pretty shit performance. You had to use the upscaling technique ( not native ) to get decent performance out of it at 1440p or above and there was a noticeable visual difference. To me the technique was always lacking geometrically (if that makes sense). Objects didnt have as much depth to/on them compared to using the native resolution.
- Aliasing is absolute shit! They have TAA on - which is MSAA (i hope it's only 2x) + FXAA and there are still a shitton of jaggies everywhere . Imagine with just FXAA on lower hardware, you're fucked.
- Some character textures look very dated ( extremely blocky/sqaure ). To me, 2 looked better in this area. It seem's there is quite a variety of low res + high res going on. To be fair, it could be the video so ill reserve judgement on that.
- Not even 60 fps but 30 fps with RT on a 2080Ti. They dont even add that much visually. You could crank up the efx/res and make it look much better. RT can fuck right off.
- DF dude mentions pop-in is good - go to 4:53 ( Guard pops in out of nowhere from shaded pixels). Mustve missed that or was it just a one off :| ?
- No mention of DLSS?
Legion looks bad and dont forget WD2 had pretty shit performance. You had to use the upscaling technique ( not native ) to get decent performance out of it at 1440p or above and there was a noticeable visual difference. To me the technique was always lacking geometrically (if that makes sense). Objects didnt have as much depth to/on them compared to using the native resolution.
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IntentionalPun
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Those articles don't have incredibly childish PC master race memes in them and weren't written by Sony fanboys who have no intention of ever PC gaming.
I'm not worked up; it's just that I actually like you as a poster. If you want that to change, be my guest.. keep making childish pathetic threads.
Also just because crappy web sites write shit doesn't mean their content is valid either. Nor does it really change the fact you are posting about PC gaming when you have no interest in it.
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
I saw one guy attacking you, I know why you are angry now but don't get things mixed up. Please, laugh about it and don't take it seriously. It's what's being reported by journalists, googled again for screenshots, and saw 4K screenshots, so your few posts I read make sense that they didn't want anyone missing around with the trailer? I'll post it after this one...
It just sounds too funny at the moment.
Barnabot
Member
What's your problem though? Why are you so worked up? I said that I don't game on my PC, it's a choice, I can build a 2080Ti PC next to it today if that's my thing.
If you got a problem with the article, you may contact all those journalists:
Watch Dogs: Legion on GeForce RTX 2080 Ti: 1080p can barely hit 30FPS
Ubisoft locked the preview build of Watch Dogs: Legion to 1080p 30FPS -- RTX 2080 Ti could barely handle that.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti performs abysmally in Watch Dogs Legion demo: preview locked to 1080p/30 FPS with ray-tracing enabled
NVIDIA’s top-end Turing card, the US$1400 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti, couldn’t even run Ubisoft’s Watch Dogs Legion at 1080p/60 FPS with ray-tracing effects turned on. This leads to speculation that users might need Ampere or Big Navi cards to properly experience ray-tracing in next-generation titles.
Watch Dogs Legion Preview Couldn't Maintain 1080p@60 FPS with Ray Tracing Enabled and an RTX 2080Ti
The Watch Dogs Legion preview build couldn't maintain a steady 1080p@60 frames per second with ray traced reflections on a PC with RTX 2080Ti
Even the RTX 2080 Ti struggles with Watch Dogs: Legion at 60fps in 1080p
Ubisoft showed off some more gameplay footage of Watch Dogs: Legion at its Forward event yesterday, the same day that Digital Foundry uploaded a video of an...
lol at this comment in one these articles:
"The amazing new PS5 with it's incredible "game-changing" ssd speeds will surely run this title at 60FPS. /s"
00_Zer0
Member
When Ubisoft showed the first game in the series I was hyped beyond belief, then they released the game and the graphics and gameplay were plain trash compared to the overly hyped staged demo and the bullshots of supposed in game graphics.
Many Ubisoft games are unoptimized pieces of trash compared to some of the other leading AAA PC games developers. It goes to show which developers take the time to optimize and take advantage of the PC architecture, and which developers don't.
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, and I'm not about to let Ubisoft ever fool me again.
Fake
Member
Is this real? WTF she don't even have hair, just a texture on her head.
Skyr
Member
Those character model are like straight out of a mobile game. I don't get how anyone sees anything impressive in those graphics. Looks horrible for a 2020 title.Screenshots in 4K though, not sure if is using Quad 2080Ti.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
It's still a cross-gen, and those character models are probably generated by the system? Not sure if they went to make everyone look unique?
ultrazilla
Member
I'm a 2080 Founder's Edition owner and I think a lot of fellow 2080(and up) card owners knew that these next gen systems
touting native 4k, 60fps HDR, RTX games were being a bit misleading. If the current most powerful cards on the market have
trouble running at 4k 60fps with RTX on, there's simply no way the consoles will hit that either. We're going to be getting
a lot of graphics/performance modes for next gen. Simple as that.
I'd go as far to say that almost any game using RTX will probably be locked to 30fps.
touting native 4k, 60fps HDR, RTX games were being a bit misleading. If the current most powerful cards on the market have
trouble running at 4k 60fps with RTX on, there's simply no way the consoles will hit that either. We're going to be getting
a lot of graphics/performance modes for next gen. Simple as that.
I'd go as far to say that almost any game using RTX will probably be locked to 30fps.
IntentionalPun
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There's a chance AMD's RT implementation will perform better; but we don't exactly have any confirmation or data to suggest that.
it does? it doesnt look like it can even achieve 4k 60 locked on ultra settings. i wouldnt call that "runs like a dream".
Assassin's Creed Odyssey: Benchmark Performance Analysis
Assasin's Creed Odyssey is this year's version of the epic series and takes you to ancient Greece. We tested the game at 1080p, 1440p and 4K using a large selection of graphics cards, including the RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Ti. We also investigated VRAM requirements and CPU performance scaling.www.techpowerup.com
That benchmark is for an old build, with older drivers. Odyssey, at4k, maxed out on an RTX 2080 TI, absolutely does run like a dream. I’ve been playing it for two weeks now. The game is SO smooth.
I have an extremely low tolerance for poorly optimized games too, I can spot frame-time issues without requiring on-screen metrics. Stutter of any kind drives me insane.
But I guess if you’re going to argue otherwise there’s not much point in discussing this. I can only tell you what I’m experiencing personally.
TheContact
Member
My PC though...
Radeon VII, Ryzen 7 2700x, 32GB RAM, 1TB 3.5GB/s Samsung 970 Pro, 2TB WD SATA3 SSD, etc. I can buy 2x 2080Ti today if I want to, went for Radeon VII for 16GB VRAM and HBM2 1TB/s bandwidth for productivity not gaming.
Plus all those LEDs is like another 5% output boost
Joke post? I seriously can’t tell.
GhostOfTsu
Banned
Ray tracing is the new buzz word but it's too demanding and the rest suffers for it. The worst is that you can barely tell when it's turned on unless you compare side by side.
A waste of resources.
A waste of resources.
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