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Cool. Why?
Umm, you just said you haven't played any other than the two games in your list.It's a brilliant work of art, and it set the tone for Paper Mario, my favorite game of all time
1) xenogears
2) chrono cross
3) ff7
4) chrono trigger
5) ffx
yeah, too bad that Dragon Quest V for the DS is so expensive.One thing this thread has shown me-
There are a ton of amazing RPGs.
Definitely want to play Dragon Quest V, VIII, Final Fantasy IV, VI and VII at some point.
Also Skies of Arcadia needs a full on remake. Its setting would be on par with Xenoblades in sheer beauty.
Paper Mario isn’t classified as a true RPG apparently, at least not by Nintendo last time I read. Was confused, I always thought Paper Mario and Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door were technically RPG gamesUmm, you just said you haven't played any other than the two games in your list.
They are. Nintendo is just pretending those games don't exist anymore to hide the creatively bankrupt new direction of the series.Paper Mario isn’t classified as a true RPG apparently, at least not by Nintendo last time I read. Was confused, I always thought Paper Mario and Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door were technically RPG games
Hacking a DS/3DS is trivial. Buy the mobile version if you want to give Squenix your money.yeah, too bad that Dragon Quest V for the DS is so expensive.
They should bring it back. Mario RPG/JRPG games can revitalize a lot for Nintendo. With what has been shown with The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, Nintendo can bring Mario games to new heights with their exploration and world building. All this hand holding and simplicity in the Paper Mario series is doing very little if nothing at all to move the games forward. I say bring back the hardcore elements you can expect from a great RPG games and watch the fans enjoy something that has been missing for some time nowThey are. Nintendo is just pretending those games don't exist anymore to hide the creatively bankrupt new direction of the series.
The direction of those games contradict Nintendo's current safe design philosophy. Koizumi is pretty much the only one doing something more with the medium working at Nintendo. It's because of him Mario Odyssey was so memorable. I know PM is Intelligent Systems, but they have also gotten horrible with their other franchises. Fire Emblem has been reduced from unique medieval story to generic anime with waifus. Advance Wars will never return either.They should bring it back. Mario RPG/JRPG games can revitalize a lot for Nintendo. With what has been shown with The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, Nintendo can bring Mario games to new heights with their exploration and world building. All this hand holding and simplicity in the Paper Mario series is doing very little if nothing at all to move the games forward. I say bring back the hardcore elements you can expect from a great RPG games and watch the fans enjoy something that has been missing for some time now
Doesn't help that the typical JRPG is also at least a 30+ hour affair. The backlog is never ending, really.There are a ton of amazing RPGs.
Dragon Quest is just as much about “corny, friendship” Shonen shit as Kingdom Hearts, so not sure what you’re going on about there...
Also, KH2:FM is literally the peak of Action based JRPGs, whereas the best DQ wouldn’t even be able to leave a dent in the halls of the best traditional JRPG gameplay examples...
Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VI are the actual 2 most overrated video games ever made. Like, by any and all objective measure.
Both are good games (in the case of FFVI; it’s actually a very good game). But that is it.
The amount of fucking mental gymnastics edgy, unemployed middle-aged men are pulling to pretend these games are really anything special now is frankly embarrassing.
FFVII did every single thing those games did well approximately 1 billion times better and it only came out a few years later.
And I wouldve included more if it werent for you meddling kids and that gosh dar
Turn-based games are old and antiquated.
There are plenty of unsubtle things about Dragon Quest, but I mean your KH example doesn’t even make sense. What’s wrong with items having sentimental/memorable distinctions?Dude, there's nothing in Dragon Quest as unsubtle as "two people becoming friends for life after eating from same star shaped fruit".
They’re more interesting than edgy anime Mickey? Badass ride-or-die Goofy? Douchebag Donald?Plus the characters are leagues more interesting than Sora and co.
KH series for the most part is run of the mill.
The only thing FF7 did better was make the characters interchangeable in combat (via the Materia system).
That's like saying 2d games are.
Funny story re xenogears. When it time to switch to disc 2 my game would freeze as disc 2 was scratched so I never played disc 2. Always wanted to finish that game I loved it
Chrono Cross is great, lots of people hate on it because it wasn't Chrono Trigger. Ignore fanboys and just enjoy the game for what is it. The graphics are amazing, probably top 5 of the whole PSX library.I'm not going to say GOAT because I certainly haven't played the majority of them, but here's my personal top 5:
1. Xenoblade 2
2. Xenosaga 3
3. Xenogears
4. SMT 4/ Apocalypse
5. Chrono Trigger
Nier Automata and Persona 5 are runners up.
I see a lot of people saying Xenogears which is great.
Also quite a few saying Chrono Cross; is it a good game? I've heard mixed reviews on it.
And that's why it's so damn good! lol. The games are super simple in their approach but it's all about the music, the characters, and the story telling. I love simplistic battle systems. The one game that will haunt me forever is Resonance of Fate....I frigging love that game, the music, art style, characters, but the battle system is so insanely weird and it hard locks you if you can't wrap your head around it. Such a shame cause I really want to play that game but I literally can't figure out the battle system and it's more advanced mechanics.Aside from its art style and enemy designs, there is literally nothing unique or interesting about Dragon Quest. It is the most generic, by-the-numbers JRPG series ever made.
Thanks! I'll definitely check it out.Chrono Cross is great, lots of people hate on it because it wasn't Chrono Trigger. Ignore fanboys and just enjoy the game for what is it. The graphics are amazing, probably top 5 of the whole PSX library.
Alright everyone, Dad's home. Clear out of the living room and take your videogames to the basement. lolJesus CHRIST what the fuck is wrong with you guys
I'm not going to say GOAT because I certainly haven't played the majority of them, but here's my personal top 5:
1. Xenoblade 2
2. Xenosaga 3
3. Xenogears
4. SMT 4/ Apocalypse
5. Chrono Trigger
Nier Automata and Persona 5 are runners up.
I see a lot of people saying Xenogears which is great.
Also quite a few saying Chrono Cross; is it a good game? I've heard mixed reviews on it.
Did you play it on PS2?I played a few hours of the first Kingdom Hearts and it was honestly one of the jankiest/boring games I've ever played. I imagine the sequels are better but definitely not my thing even though I thought it would be.
It was PS2 and it was like years after the fact. I'm pretty easy going when it comes to rough gameplay but man, that game just felt like an absolute mess. The combat, the platforming. I stopped playing cause I got lost in the Alice in Wonderland section. Just had no desire to continue with it. I'm not of the mindset that the whole series is trash though, I figured the other titles vastly improved on what the first one was trying to do.Did you play it on PS2?
Cause I’ll say now: KH1 on PS2 sucks. Like, just flat out. It is absolutely horrendous to play.
The KH 1.5 Remaster on PS4 though? Heaven.
It is literally night and day.
Seriously you're all groundedAlright everyone, Dad's home. Clear out of the living room and take your videogames to the basement. lol
1) There are plenty of unsubtle things about Dragon Quest, but I mean your KH example doesn’t even make sense. What’s wrong with items having sentimental/memorable distinctions?
2) They’re more interesting than edgy anime Mickey? Badass ride-or-die Goofy? Douchebag Donald?
More interesting than Hades?! Maleficent?!
Doubt it.
3) You clearly don’t have a single fucking clue what you’re talking about.
KH is the very antithesis to “run of the mill JRPG”.
In a sea of monotonous, mundane, generic weeb trash, Kingdom Hearts is the only one that actually stands out thanks to its Disney influence and charm.
4) And also everything else.
5) It was a joke. I thought that would be obvious considering my favourite JRPG of all time is a turn-based game...
1) Dragon Quest has a lot more believable and earthy character stories within the minor characters, many laden with tragedy to boot.
2) Yes. Alena, Yangus, Sylandro, etc. are more interesting than the over-buckled/zipperfied Disney redesigns and glorified Disney crossover fanfic OGs.
3) KH is top tier weeb. The keyblades, the buckles, the zippers, the spiky hair.
4) 6 has a lot better game balance, more charismatic characters on the whole with varied motivations,
a villain who actually succeeds in destroying the world, and actually makes you/the protagonists want to beat the stuffing out of him.
5) A little hard to tell given your divergent posts in this thread.
My personal top five in no particular oder:
Persona 5
Ys 8
Dq11
Tales of berseria
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Yeah, I know its mostly modern stuff. I've only relatively recently gotten into jrpgs.
I've seen this come up a couple of times recently. What makes it so great?Caligula effect
It's got a cool battle system and story/characters.I've seen this come up a couple of times recently. What makes it so great?