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Reddit rumor: Mafia IV is in development and Mafia II remaster

VulcanRaven

Member
Someone poster this on Reddit:


MAFIA IV Massive Leak + MAFIA II Remaster

I have three separate sources confirming this. Two of them former developers for Hangar 13, one of them being a journalist. They are very reputable, obviously I can't reveal who they are, nor shall I, as I wish not to hurt their career or cause any legal issues. If that makes my credibility lower, then so be it.

Anyway, let's get into it.

As some of you may already know - MAFIA IV started prototyping stages of development right after MAFIA III wrapped up its DLC season, however as it was reported, the project was "cancelled" or "passed on" by Hangar 13 management in favour of an original IP (all reported and confirmed).

After development on their "original project" wasn't gaining any traction, they decided to assemble a small unit which then became Hangar 13 in Brighton, UK. This team, according to my two developer sources, picked up their original MAFIA IV pitches and prototypes and hit the ground running. After a good 5-6 months of internal struggles, they decided that the project was ambitious and something they wished to pursue, now, every branch (aside from the Czech Republic, I'll get to that) are working on MAFIA IV.

The game, according to my two developer sources and journalist, will indeed be set in 70s Vegas and continue on from where MAFIA III left off. You will play as a new protagonist and it will return to you playing as the Italian Mob in Vegas' golden years of organised crime. Said to be very "Scorsese-esque" whatever that means.

The game will feature a huge map to traverse of course, the story will span a decade according to one of my developer sources, the other developer claims that this was initially not the case as they wanted to continue the documentary style of MAFIA III's storytelling at first, but instead will be a more traditional "now" story with no flashbacks or interviews ahead of the events.

I'm not sure if any characters will return - I never asked this, unfortunately, although I would expect Vito to make an appearance at the very least.

Gone are the repetitive missions from MAFIA III. They know they fucked up there. Apparently the story behind that is a bit murky. The game (MAFIA III) originally allowed you to go straight for the racket bosses, each with unique encounters and deaths, and not have to do the repetitive filler stuff, but as the release date loomed over the developers, the producers were pressuring them to get it shipped and had to make some quality drawbacks.

Many planned mechanics for MAFIA III have made their way into MAFIA IV, one of which being an empire building system, far more in depth than anything I've heard of in any game before. It's insane the stuff they plan with this. One of my sources was telling me of how you can literally build, buy out, and expand casinos, you can take a rundown building and turn it into a metropolis.

It'll be on a new version of the MAFIA II/III engine, massively overhauled, many of the technical issues that plagued M3 should now be mostly non-existent apparently.

Motion capture began on the game about 8-9 months ago. Expected to be revealed next year, with a 2021 release, next gen obviously.

Now then, MAFIA II Remaster - yes, this is a thing and it's coming sooner than you think. Not sure when, but they said "SOON" (TM) - Hangar 13's Czech branch is working on this, it's a complete overhaul and uses the MAFIA IV engine. Think RE2 Remake levels.

Any questions, ask. I'll try and answer what I can - I understand if you don't believe me, but we'll all be here when the game is announced so yeah :)

P.S: This is a throwaway account obviously - don't want any legal repercussions to hit me :D

Sounds great so I hope this is true. I still haven't finished Mafia III but I really like it. The story is good and I really like the 1960s setting. Also Mafia II remaster would be great. Its one of my games and the original still looks great on PC. I hope they add some of the cut content.
 
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Dada55000

Member
Oh great, more 'taking over the city', Godfather the Videogame bullshit. The antithesis to Mafia 1 (and 2 for the most part).

A Mafia 2 redo is only interesting if they include all the cut content, not just the late cuts either, some of which was repurposed as dlc. Extended WW2 prologue, the branching story where you can pick which family you join. A complete remake of the game to turn it into what it was intended to before it was cut to shit.

Which, obviously, they won't do. So what's the point?
 

Dane

Member
Why not remaster the original game, its still considered the best, and it was the only "GTA Clone" (in parts) to be much acclaimed as the original rival.
 

Kadayi

Banned
I wonder if they'll still have the playboy collectables in Mafia 2? I remember those got the likes of RPS all hot and bothered back in the day.

Anyway, a remaster wouldn't go amiss. I enjoyed my time with Mafia 2, but it suffered a great deal from model repetition as a result of the constraints of DVD sized games (most noticeable during the prison sequence), but the actual premise was decent.

We need an improved Mafia 1. Still my favorite game ever and one of the very very few I finished more than once.

Great game, but fuck that goddamn racing car section in the ass. That car would spin out if anyone even breathed on it. :messenger_neutral: Not quite as bad as the RC vehicles in GTA:SA but close.
 
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Mista

Banned
Please be true! I’ll take both the remaster and the new game. Had lots of fun with Mafia 3 despite what the majority said about the game
 
They should stick with the 1930s to 50s setting and deliver a true Mafia experience like the first one did. I am of the opinion that a strong reboot is in order considering the absolute mess that was Mafia 3.
 

D3SCHA1N

Member
Mafia 3 had some fun to it if you could put up with everything you had to dig through to find it, if IV looks fun I'll give it a whirl...
 

klosos

Member
Mafia 3 was a good game , very repetitive but the characters i really liked, however if the rumors are true about Mafia 4 that could be fantastic , i am keeping an eye open for it , however the rumor does come from Reddit so i am not getting my hopes high.
 
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hariseldon

Unconfirmed Member
The important thing to note in that content dump is that the development team is in Brighton. Brighton is SJW central in Britain. I’d be surprised if they managed to produce anything of worth.
 

Hostile_18

Banned
Mafia 2 remaster? It was a big letdown after Mafia 1 (which for me is one of the best video games in history), but still some parts of the game like the winter introduction were awesome. I'd replay it on current-gen consoles.

Man did you read my mind... that's EXACTLY what I thought about the first two games. Mafia 1 won my GoTY that year.... remember beating the race on the original difficulty before the patch? *cries*. I liked Mafia 2 but felt outside of the Winter scene it only picked up into proper missions the second half. I went into Mafia 3 with very low expectations based on feedback and loved it also (though not quite as good as 1). It has perhaps the best sound track of all time, maybe only beaten by Vice City). I did play a fully patched version with all DLC so perhaps that made a difference.

As for this rumour call me sceptical. Sounds like a fan of Casino lol. Also they get remaster/remake mixed up. A remaster would be more believable... but a full remake for a franchise that wasnt doing to well? Hmmm.
 

Hostile_18

Banned
The important thing to note in that content dump is that the development team is in Brighton. Brighton is SJW central in Britain. I’d be surprised if they managed to produce anything of worth.

I think they earned our trust with Mafia 3 (they didn't rewrite history after all), I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, personally :).
 

sertopico

Member
Remastering Mafia 2? Please, I still get upset when I think about what 2k did with the original, they butchered the whole game by cutting content and filling those gaps with horrible prerendered videos. They ruined the whole concept. One of the main reasons why Vavra and many others left.
 
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VulcanRaven

Member
Mafia II had a lot of content that they didn't include in the final game. There was supposed to be melee weapons. Also you could sit. They are still in the game files and modders have made them work. Would be great if they included those in the remaster.
 
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H4ze

Member
Yessss, would take a Mafia II remake everyday.
And also a Mafia IV if its a bit more like Mafia I + II was.
 

Airbus Jr

Banned
Mafia IV + Mafia II Remaster?

Today is a good day

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xrnzaaas

Member
Mafia II had a lot of content that they didn't include in the final game. There was supposed to be melee weapons. Also you could sit. They are still in the game files and modders have made them work. Would be great if they included those in the remaster.
This is 2K, expect a normal port filled with old bugs. ;)
 

VulcanRaven

Member
So Mafia 2 is a remake not a remaster from what I read.
Where did you read this? Remake would be great but I'm fine a remaster. The PC version has aged well. I hope it will have the same soundtrack if this happens.
 
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Dada55000

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Where did you read this? Remake would be great but I'm fine a remaster. The PC version has aged well. I hope it will have the same soundtrack if this happens.
Now then, MAFIA II Remaster - yes, this is a thing and it's coming sooner than you think. Not sure when, but they said "SOON" (TM) - Hangar 13's Czech branch is working on this, it's a complete overhaul and uses the MAFIA IV engine. Think RE2 Remake levels.
Remaster is a meaningless marketing buzzword for retards. It was invented for Last of Us' PS4 port, and usually it is applied to ports, but has since been used as the marketing subtitle for straight remakes, like CoD4 'Remastered'.

What was described in regards with Mafia 2 is a remake in a new engine, despite the brandishing of 'remaster'.
 
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desertdroog

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Despite the jank, I really like the Mafia games. The period settings, music and cars...I only wish they had the budget that the GTA series gets. It would be perfect. I am excited for a Mafia IV, yet there is a missed opportunity to explore Cuba, the revolution and how it affected the Mafia or the war between the three families, etc.
 

Hostile_18

Banned
Remaster = the original game with marginal differences. Not as labour intensive.

Remake = Re-done from the ground up, possibly completely renvisioned for a modern audience. Many times more labour intensive.
 

IbizaPocholo

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Lupin3

Targeting terrorists with a D-Pad
Should the Mafia games be played in order, or can I start with anyone of them?

Been thinking about taking on at least one or two of them lately.
 

Dada55000

Member
Should the Mafia games be played in order, or can I start with anyone of them?

Been thinking about taking on at least one or two of them lately.
There's some payoff to stuff between games, but it's really just the first to the second one. Second to third is just "hey, remember this guy? he's BACK".

So if you're obsessive, you'll go release order anyways, if you want to get the most important stuff play 1 before 2, and if you absolutely do not care, play whichever.
 
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hariseldon

Unconfirmed Member
There's some payoff to stuff between games, but it's really just the first to the second one. Second to third is just "hey, remember this guy? he's BACK".

So if you're obsessive, you'll go release order anyways, if you want to get the most important stuff play 1 before 2, and if you absolutely do not care, play whichever.
And Mafia 1 is the best Mafia.
 

ruvikx

Banned
Mafia 3 was shit on a stick. Despite the propaganda, despite the ridiculous anti-American bullshit which polluted the narrative, I gave the damn game a chance because what the hell, it's open world & I like the old cars. But nope, the missions were an insult to actual game development. Fight mini bosses & big bosses in the same location after clearing the areas previously? How about get stuffed.

No one involved in Mafia 3 deserves to work in the games industry anymore... except perhaps the guy who chose the musical score, i.e. some pretty epic songs from that era were the only highlight in that shitshow of a non-game.
 

Larxia

Member
I'm really surprised by all of these comments saying Mafia 2 was trash, I really really liked this game, it had a great atmopshere, it was beautiful, it played well, I don't see what's so "bad" about it.

I know some people complained about the world being too "empty" because there weren't side quets, but it really wasn't needed in my opinion, I actually like what Mafia 2 did with its open world.
The world is there as a background for the missions and the story, it's a setting, and if you want, you can play the game in a linear way like a closed linear action game, but you also have the freedom to explore the scenery, just for curiosity and enjoying the atmosphere, and I liked that. You had freedom without feeling harassed by "open world" stuff everywhere, it felt relaxing, and I don't think a game should always try to follow the usual "open world checklist" just because the environment is "open".
 

VulcanRaven

Member
Should the Mafia games be played in order, or can I start with anyone of them?

Been thinking about taking on at least one or two of them lately.
You could start with Mafia 2 if you don't want to play old games. It has some references to the first game but not much.
 
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Even though I enjoyed Mafia 2, it was an unfinished mess.

It'd be worth getting excited over if they not only restore the cut content, but actually complete the fucking story. It felt like it was barely halfway through when the game suddenly ended.

Also, there's no reason to buy or customize anything because you lose it all and there's nothing you can do about it. They really should have thought that over.
 

stranno

Member
Should the Mafia games be played in order, or can I start with anyone of them?

Been thinking about taking on at least one or two of them lately.
You should definitely play the original one, it is a masterpiece. And it still holds up pretty well (except the speed limit thing, can be a tedious nowadays, and the more realistic car handling/physics model, nowadays sandboxes has a way more arcade approach).
 
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