While I like the capability of a vaccumable dust catcher one has to wonder why go thru the effort of including one to begin with.
Seems like the cooling solution is susceptible to dust and might impede its performance. The average casual consumer might not know what to do when it inevitably gets clogged.
And now Sony is limiting their liability via a fine print:
They actually used the words "HARDWARE CLOGGING FROM DUST".
While I like the capability of a vaccumable dust catcher one has to wonder why go thru the effort of including one to begin with.
Seems like the cooling solution is susceptible to dust and might impede its performance. The average casual consumer might not know what to do when it inevitably gets clogged.
And now Sony is limiting their liability via a fine print:
They actually used the words "HARDWARE CLOGGING FROM DUST".
Same could be said about Boeing with their new Boeing 737 Max and look what happened.In this post: Multi-billion dollar corporation that hired some of the best engineers for the project has no idea what it’s doing!
I hope that a normal thermal paste is a good replacement (no reasonfor it not to be imo, but Im no expert), because its going to be hard making repairs.
Same could be said about Boeing with their new Boeing 737 Max and look what happened.
Or about Microsoft and the Windows Vista fiasco.
Or about Apple and their thermal-throttling MacBooks.
NeoGAF implementing a basic reading comprehension test before getting posting rights....not a bad idea.They only understand FUDish.
This is how you be a Samurai, respect your clan, give the teardown honor to a true engineer, and not anyone, Yasuhiro Ootori, VP, Mechanical Design Department, Hardware Design Division at Sony Interactive Entertainment. Not some amateur youtuber expert-wannabe.
And really appreciate that it was represented in Japanese, makes it even more epic!
I think what people are seeing is either the nut from the NVMe cover or from the fan vent cover.
What metal? The only liquid metal in ambient temperatures is mercury but the vapor of the mercury is dangerous
Please tell me this is satire and it just went over my head.
Damn, it's just so well thought out at every step. Dust catchers, insulated disc drive to limit noise while a disc is spinning, a fucking screw hole cover waiting inside the stand so that you can cover the vertical screw hole when it's horizontal
Liquid metal as a thermal compound on a mass-produced unit? We didn't think that'd ever happen. A ridiculous cooling method as well.
A million laborious decisions went into crafting this and it shows. It's not just a bunch of parts crammed together with a matte shoebox acting as the sardine can.
Well..francium is radioactive...so i think no...Mercury is the most well known, there are others that are not toxic like mercury.
Liquid metal - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Well..francium is radioactive...so i think no...
Maybe gallium that is used also for semiconductors?
"This unique capability was achieved with the help of gallium metal in its liquid state. Gallium is an amazing metal with a low melting point of only 29.8 degrees C. It means that at a normal office temperature it is solid, while it turns into a liquid when placed at the palm of someone's hand. It is a melted metal, so its surface is atomically smooth. It is also a conventional metal which means that its surface provides a large number of free electrons for facilitating chemical reactions," Ms Yifang Wang, the first author of the paper said.
I reckon there will be some crazy designs like winged panels and such.I wonder if 3rd parties will make custom side panels? I love the siz eof the ps5 but im not partial to the collars. Id rather just have it contured to the base unit.
If you put it horizontally it’s thicker.PS5 SOC may be longer but they say that thicker is best, so SeX is really better than the PS5.
Mercury is the most well known, there are others that are not toxic like mercury.
Liquid metal - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
lol who can possibly be bigger Sony shills than Sony thenselves? (and you btw)Glad they didn't let shills handle their homework. Great work, Sony.
If the PSU was outside, the console should be prettier
turn on captions on youtubeNo idea what I'm talking about, but that heatsink looks big.
Hoping for an English version.
not challenging your statement here. I'm legit asking. Every time I've looked into liquid metal it's been nothing but horror stories and how it corrodes the tops of cpus etc. I think even Linus did a video on it (could be mistaken and too lazy to look).It's better than the traditional thermal paste. Should last longer too.
So the PS5 APU should be a fair amount cheaper than XSX's as I presumed a few months ago since it has a much smaller die area and working CUs. And that extra cost went to the huge heatsiink and extra fast SSD.
We shall see in the coming months if it was a worthy tradeoff.
Vista wasn't that bad, after hardware manufacturers fixed drivers and PCs started to get more than 1gb of ram. Last versions of Vista are working almost like Windows 7.Same could be said about Boeing with their new Boeing 737 Max and look what happened.
Or about Microsoft and the Windows Vista fiasco.
Or about Apple and their thermal-throttling MacBooks.
This was covered during Cerny's presentation, it's 825GB.1) The system is huge.
2) I didn't realize it's not even a 1 TB drive. Maybe the 600+ GB rumor is true.
And really appreciate that it was represented in Japanese, makes it even more epic!
What if they presented it in Kurosawa Mode?
I was under the impression that only happens when the clocks significantly above the average threshold of that particular generation of chips.Not necessarily. Higher clocks mean higher binning = less working chips from each wafer.
What if they presented it in Kurosawa Mode?
The heatsink definitely looks like those found on PC graphics cards. Thicc and lengthy.Cooling design reminds me of the new nVidia cards.
The heatsink definitely looks like those found on PC graphics cards. Thicc and lengthy.
You know that liquid metal is not some new magic technology? It's known for years. I had it in notebook 10 years ago and even then it wasn't something new.I hope that a normal thermal paste is a good replacement (no reasonfor it not to be imo, but Im no expert), because its going to be hard making repairs.
Pretty sure the Xbox fit together like lego bricks because they versions they gave DF had special magnets on specific components to showcase it to the public. In reality youre not gonna be able to to pull it apart easily.I still want a PS5 and I'll keep my PS5 preorder but it's clear to me that Sony has been outengineered on this one. Just look at how long it takes to disassemble/reassemble both consoles and it's clear as day.
One I wouldn't even attempt to reassemble and the other one fits together like lego bricks.
It's also clear which one will be cooler and better ventilated. Forget that liquid metal keyword and just look at the air flow, never mind where the highest clocks are.
Sony will have to rely on the quality of its exclusive games more than ever this generation. I personally hope they are otherwordly. R&C looks like a good start but there better be more and better coming.
Also, that motherboard would make a wicked MP map
I wouldn't worry about the plates being in the way because centrifugal fans like the one in the ps5 aren't nearly as badly affected by close obstructions as axial fans are and will pull in air just fine. The fan won't just blow really hard, it will be a great sucker too.