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One thing that I find rather lacking, is you need to remove the plates to install a NVMe. I appreciate its vendor agnostic, but the Microsoft solution is more elegant. Although the Microsoft approach has its own drawbacks, with the stupid pricing on the drive and no market competition to drive those device prices down.

Tradeoffs I guess.

Why? It's easy to remove and you don't have a card protruding out of the system.

 

[DonF]

I dont understand anything he says but goodluck

Will be getting this someday in 2021

The video was uploaded with close captions in various languages.

 

[GustavoLT]

 

[pr0cs]

Hate that it needs a stand, it's so large I can't see a lot of people running it vertically if they have a HT setup, unless they put it on the floor. They should have just put rubber feet on one side so we don't need to use a stupid plastic stand.
Love that the case is removable, finally get rid of the white panels which are pretty ugly. Thankfully black ones will come aftermarket likely in short order.
Not convinced that the heat pipe won't lead to an eventual noisy fan/thermals, EVERY SINGLE sony console I've owned eventually turned into a jet engine, I don't see anything here suggesting otherwise.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

How does it work?

It gives 100% synchronization between the heatsink and the die, unlike paste or any other stuff. It's dodgy to manage on ordinary PC's though.

 

[dyergram]

Guess this confirms the Russian video and the fact that the sides come off? Also when you see all the inside shit laid out it doesn't even look that big lol

 

[Yoboman]

Was this filmed in Richards home?

 

[oldergamer]

Wait, did anyone see where the SSD expansion was?

 

[dyergram]

Video reminded me of this for some reason :

 

[iJudged]

this is so fucking beautiful!

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

It looks like third parties could easily produce replacement parts for this console, even the main fan. Noctua PS5 fan anyone?

 

[killatopak]

Wait, did anyone see where the SSD expansion was?

If you watched the video then yes.

 

[Piku_Ringo]

I'd rather see Hryb in his white gloves.

Nothing tops the mickey mouse gloves.

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

Yep, I am at work at present but will be looking into the board later.

Look forward to your impressions, Michael.

 

[Tefl0n]

Nice breakdown. For those who are heavy handed or tend to lose things, I can see the stand becoming a problem down the road and possibly some issues with the cover being damage

 

[Redlight]

LOL at this thing being as tall as the dude..

He's a renowned Japanese jockey, right?

 

[geordiemp]

More than anything, that large centrifugal fan will have very high static pressure. An axial fan could potentially have much higher CFM at the same RPM and volume but it would have trouble pushing the air through the fins of that monstrously deep heatsink.

To the people saying a vapor chamber could have made the heatsink smaller, I sincerely doubt it. Heat pipes conduct heat much better along an axis and the PS5's heatsink needed to be long to fit enough fins to get the necessary surface area for heat transfer. This is a very logical layout for the PS5's typical, albeit oversized, console form factor. A vapor chamber is much better in a short run where the fins of the heatsink aren't far away from the component being cooled, just like how Microsoft used theirs in the XSX.

I am very impressed by both Sony's and Microsoft's commitment to great cooling this upcoming generation.

I meant actual CFM moved, practically under load

Also note the heat sink in XSX is deeper, volume wise it would be an interesting comparison.

However, ps5 heat sink seems to cover allot more items than I was expecting including the RAM chips and other components, its quite spread out.

 

[IShowUBasics]

Wow looks like they have a good cooling solution in the combination of the big fan, massive heatsink and liquid metal. Also surprised by the extra expansion slot. Thought you had to remove the stock ssd to get a expansion. This expansion slot makes it much better.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Cooling design reminds me of the new nVidia cards.

 

[Von Hugh]

It looked so much better when he removed the pannels.

Why couldn't that be the PS5?

My thoughts exactly.

I guess true beauty lies inside.

 

[Redlight]

Yeah I don't think so. The og ps4 had an easily removable panel and, at the time people thought the same thing. Even Sony sold some special panels but the trend quickly died. And then the slim happened (both the slim and pro have easily removable top panela) but customisation is still not that popular.

The same was also true of the 360's swappable face-plate. They quickly disappeared.

It's a nice option though

 

[ethomaz]

It is absolutely tech art.

How all the parts are just connected to each other and made specifically for PS5 is amazing.
PS4 used a lot of standard parts.

The heat sink is big... probably the main reason it is 9-10cm in weight.

Loved how they did think in everything about the dock... even how to store the screw or the "close hole" thing.

 

[Elginer]

Beautiful

 

[wd40]

Seeing it without the panels makes it look like it took its coat off lmao

great looking console, godammit its fucking huge

 

[Tripolygon]

Very interesting centrifugal fan design. Nearly 70% of the console is taken up by cooling. It will be a quiet cool console.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

It gives 100% synchronization between the heatsink and the die, unlike paste or any other stuff. It's dodgy to manage on ordinary PC's though.

This should help about liquid metal cooling superiority.

 

[CrustyBritches]

Thing is a big heckin' chonker, but it should run quietly. The design reminds me of a futuristic looking airport.

 

[Rolla]

All I care about is the heat dissipation. Those 2 big fan and heat sink is all I cared about the rest is just a bonus.

 

[iJudged]

omg I cant wait for custom look panel designs, people gonna go nuts, shit is gonna be so beautiful.

 

[killatopak]

The same was also true of the 360's swappable face-plate. They quickly disappeared.

It's a nice option though

The difference is the standard faceplate is ugly.

Almost every fan made faceplate I saw in the internet was better.

 

[DeepEnigma]

The covers are easy to remove.

I wonder when they're going to announce custom shells.

I think that's the idea. Should make for a crazy cool third party market from people who have 3D printers or injection mold access.

 

[John Day]

Beautiful piece of machine.

How about some custom panels? Seems like a business oportunity there. Get to it boys!

 

[Md Ray]

Unfortunately...no confirmation if it has physical power / eject buttons, or whether they are shitty, shitty, shitty, fucking garbage useless pieces of shit capacitive buttons (yeah, you can tell I hate capacitive buttons...)

Those are definitely physical buttons.

 

[Zathalus]

Why? It's easy to remove and you don't have a card protruding out of the system.

1. Detach the stand via the screw.
2. Remove the side plate.
3. Unscrew the NVMe cover.
4. Insert the NVMe.
5. Screw the cover back on.
6. Put the plate back on.
7. Screw your stand back on.

VS

1. Insert the Seagate NVMe.

One is more elegant, easier and simpler to do then the other. Note however, I didn't say better then the other. Because while the PS5 method is more complicated to do, it gives you the freedom of choice and likely cheaper SSD prices in the future, assuming the Seagate drive does not drop in price (which is unlikely or might take a while, console accessories always are sold at a premium).

My personal preference is the PS5 way as I can buy a 2TB off the bat (Samsung 980) and reuse it for my PC if I ever need to (such as eventually upgrading to a 4TB SSD). With the Xbox when they release a 2TB card, my 1TB card would only be useful as a backup or to keep some older games on it.

 

[Amish Prince]

Liquid metal cooling now confirmed.

Dragon Quest nods in approval

 

[jigglet]

Those are definitely physical buttons.

I have seen capacitive buttons before with a button like form. So I still want to see confirmation.

 

[Boglin]

I meant actual CFM moved, practically under load

Also note the heat sink in XSX is deeper, volume wise it would be an interesting comparison.

However, ps5 heat sink seems to cover allot more items than I was expecting including the RAM chips and other components, its quite spread out.

Looking back at the XSX, you might be right about the depth. The PS5 still looks to have a more densely packed fin array though, so should still benefit greatly from the higher static pressure.

I would be interested to see side-by-side comparison.

 

[I'm nobody]

My thoughts:

• The hidey hole for the screw in the stand and the swivel compartment are amazing, even if totally unnecessary
• 

 

[FranXico]

It looked so much better when he removed the pannels.

Why couldn't that be the PS5?

The panels are mostly cosmetic. You will probably be able to use it without them.

 

[Ellery]

That is fair, I'd be lying if I said I have never gotten emotional playing a video game.

I do not become emotional watching teardown videos of consoles, but maybe that is an issue for me to deal with. I personally feel like you are a little too attached to a console if you become emotional watching the shared video, but maybe that is a completely normal emotion to gain from the video and I am just a jaded asshole.

Ignore my comment man, I hope watching the video brings you a ton of happiness because it is hard to come by these days.

No worries I felt no offense and I can tell you are decent and genuine. I am used to much worse from some Neogaf people and nobody ever managed to penetrate my skin.

I don't mean emotional as in that I actually have tears rolling down my cheeks, but that it makes me happy to see this video because it is well done and the console looks premium and I am looking forward to playing on it. I don't see it as a fault, but as me looking forward to be happy with it and the design of the PS5 looks to cause me less headaches than the loud PS4.

 

[skneogaf]

Liquid Metal vs. Thermal Paste Benchmarks: Intel’s Thermal Problem, Pt1 | GamersNexus

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www.gamersnexus.net

This shows the difference between liquid metal and standard thermal paste for anyone interested.

 

[ThaMonkeyClaw]

Nice hardware. The only complaint I have is this:

I guess the stand clip won't survive for too long if the PS5 is layed horizontally even if the weight stress is not applied on the weaker side of that clip.

It's a metal clip though, I don't see that breaking...I do wish it locked in somehow when horizontal since I can see me accidentally pulling it out of the clip when I go to clean the console.

 

[magnumpy]

but why is it so big

 

[Arkam]

Pretty slick kit. That cooling solution puts a lot of confidence in their claim of quiet. Overall great teardown, though I hope there is an english language one in the near future. I am sure there are little bits throughout that are interesting. Best part about this teardown, No Magnets!

 

[Barnabot]

It's a metal clip though, I don't see that breaking...I do wish it locked in somehow when horizontal since I can see me accidentally pulling it out of the clip when I go to clean the console.

Metal Clip? Are you sure about that?

 

[Self]

1. Detach the stand via the screw.
2. Remove the side plate.
3. Unscrew the NVMe cover.
4. Insert the NVMe.
5. Screw the cover back on.
6. Put the plate back on.
7. Screw your stand back on.

VS

1. Insert the Seagate NVMe.

One is more elegant, easier and simpler to do then the other. Note however, I didn't say better then the other. Because while the PS5 method is more complicated to do, it gives you the freedom of choice and likely cheaper SSD prices in the future, assuming the Seagate drive does not drop in price (which is unlikely or might take a while, console accessories always are sold at a premium).

My personal preference is the PS5 way as I can buy a 2TB off the bat (Samsung 980) and reuse it for my PC if I ever need to (such as eventually upgrading to a 4TB SSD). With the Xbox when they release a 2TB card, my 1TB card would only be useful as a backup or to keep some older games on it.

To be fair, how often do you change that kind of stuff? Also the XSX NVME sticks out quite a bit which can eventually lead to problems. I like both ways, but prefer the PS5 way in that specific case.

 

[Redlight]

The difference is the standard faceplate is ugly.

Almost every fan made faceplate I saw in the internet was better.

I have a feeling a black set will come out and most people will settle for that and never change again.
Options are always better though, even if only 10% of people enjoy changing the plates, then why not cater to them?

I actually think it may be more important in this case, let's face it, the current console look is kind of 'interesting'. Maybe the guy in the tear down is small but fuck me, the console looks huge. Maybe someone will come out with faceplates that are squarer, more conventional, maybe downplay the fins and let the thing blend in a little more.

That's win/win.

 

[M1chl]

This should help about liquid metal cooling superiority.

Here if anyone fancy some graphs vs traditional thermal compound : )

 

[MadYarpen]

How the fuck am I going to convince my wife to put this fridge in our small living room next to the TV remains a mistery...

 

[wd40]

has anyone did that AR thing where you can see how big it'd be in your house? holy shit its so large lmao, i'm gonnae put it vertically beside by desk and tv.