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Ps5 chipset limited you 32gbps over HDMI 2.1
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John Wick
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AAA games at native 4k@120HZ are a pipe dream this gen for sure. You won't get games like Valhalla or HZDFW running at that spec.Seriously stop
geordiemp
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And what are you doing in this thread may I ask ?
John Wick
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BOOM!
Exactly! It shows how people forget how previous consoles launched and how features were added over time. A console should prioritise games and gaming first. Sony have the games at launch and the UI is excellant. I can wait for the other features to be patched in
ethomaz
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That is why I'm saying if PS5 is outputting HDR 444 already debunk the video... I know it output 4k120 now we needs to check if 4:2:2 only or 4:4:4 with HDR.
A lot of people both here and in Xbox threads seem to be very confused about this so let me lay it out clearly...
BOTH ARE HDMI2.1!
Hardware wise they are 2.1 ports and CAN achieve full 48Gbps if needed. HOWEVER, software wise they are both gimping the ports. Xbox seems to be aiming for the 40.1Gbps which falls in line with a lot of TV's released recently that only use up to 10bit panels (so the 12bit bandwidth isn't considered and should be set accordingly). Sony though, they've made a weird choice here, this seems more like a flaw that needs to be fixed, which again for a new console is very surprising to be making minor mistakes like this.
BOTH ARE HDMI2.1!
Hardware wise they are 2.1 ports and CAN achieve full 48Gbps if needed. HOWEVER, software wise they are both gimping the ports. Xbox seems to be aiming for the 40.1Gbps which falls in line with a lot of TV's released recently that only use up to 10bit panels (so the 12bit bandwidth isn't considered and should be set accordingly). Sony though, they've made a weird choice here, this seems more like a flaw that needs to be fixed, which again for a new console is very surprising to be making minor mistakes like this.
John Wick
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Which AAA games like Valhalla or RDR2? I'll wait while you look ok?
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
It can't.
John Wick
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You mean like they are gonna patch the 12 teraflops? Or wait the First party exclusives will be ready sometime in 2022
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
You realize you just proved his point right?
ethomaz
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
It can't at that bitrate. What's got you confused?
FrankWza
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That’s what happens when you have a track record and communicate honestly instead of pretending or half-truthing things. Why would anyone with a PS5 be unhappy right now? What about the worlds fastest conbox
come on now. Whatever feature that PS does not currently have is completely patchable. You can’t patch in a bunch of games a hardware redesign though
It's about a 4k 120hz signal, this has little to do with the rendering in the game.
geordiemp
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Your desperation is hurting my sides.
ethomaz
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I just found the info about the HDMI 2.1 chipset in PS5.
Panasonic MN864739
It support 48Gbps... so there is no hardware limitation like some usual are trying to make buzz lol.
BTW the video even asks if the chipset supports 40 or 48 Gbps... that makes his claim very weird because it supports 48 Gbps.
Panasonic MN864739
It support 48Gbps... so there is no hardware limitation like some usual are trying to make buzz lol.
BTW the video even asks if the chipset supports 40 or 48 Gbps... that makes his claim very weird because it supports 48 Gbps.
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DeepEnigma
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And they already confirmed that they are patching that issue. He did a recent video on it.
Celcius
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It is but it's coming in a future update
geordiemp
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DeepEnigma
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That love to war themselves, yet were super absent in the 3rd party game face-offs. See something slightly negative again, and they pounce like a pack of coyote.
And yes, this happens on both sides.
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reinking
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This is such a false statement these days. Especially around here. The Xbox fans have been as much if not more vocal than the PS fans. Not sure why they want to play the victim card all of the time.
ethomaz
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I just watched the video.
I will apologize for some harsh words to the video creator because from the thread I though he was affirming PS5 output at 32Gbps max.
That is not the case.
What he say is that he could get more than these two modes in his setup:
4K@60Hz at 12-bit RGB = 32Gbps (8Gbps at 4 Lanes)
4K@120Hz at 12-bit 4:2:2 = 32Gbps (8Gbps at 4 Lanes)
He could not get over these two modes (RGB is 4:4:4 btw).
I will apologize for some harsh words to the video creator because from the thread I though he was affirming PS5 output at 32Gbps max.
That is not the case.
What he say is that he could get more than these two modes in his setup:
4K@60Hz at 12-bit RGB = 32Gbps (8Gbps at 4 Lanes)
4K@120Hz at 12-bit 4:2:2 = 32Gbps (8Gbps at 4 Lanes)
He could not get over these two modes (RGB is 4:4:4 btw).
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MisterXDTV
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I'm using 4.45 gbps right now... Who cares about 8K??
cebri.one
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Where is the data sheet for that chipset, could you link it?
Hendrick's
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As well as the evidence that is the actual chip. I can find neither.
cebri.one
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GeneticPencil
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I dont understand why PS fans get so butthurt. PS5 hardware was released in beta state, this would probably get patch soon and work fine.
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saintjules
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Since having both Consoles, I never sat there playing games and said, "wow - this isn't HDMI 2.1".
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DeepEnigma
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How do you even enjoy gaming?
Uhhh, that is what PS fans have been saying this whole thread. The butthurt is not in their direction.
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cebri.one
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To be honest I think that, apart from the current lack of support of VRR and ALLM, it is a completely irrelevant topic.
Most TVs are shit and 90% of homeowners TVs don't support HDMI 2.1, you could justify buying a new 4K tv if you had a FULLHD TV or older, but who is going to buy a new 4K TV just because there HDMI interface is not the latest.
And even if you get 120hz 4K full RGB you are not going to notice the difference because most TV panels are crap unless you spent quite a lot of money on it. As for 8K... is the latest marketing gimmick from TV manufacturers eager to sell you the latest thing. IMO with resolutions above 1440p, even with big 50 inch display you enter in the land of rapidly diminish returns.
THE:MILKMAN
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It really isn't "beta". It is Sony being very cautious as they were with all their HDMI consoles. Release with the features of the most stable version (effectively a high bandwidth version of 2.0b for PS5) and add features as they become stable.
Even with the very latest AV amps (that arrived well late with a 2.1 port!) have still released with firmware bugs.
As an aside, do we know the precise make/model of HDMI chipset from Panasonic that is in the AV amps and is it the same one in the consoles?
GymWolf
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No that's what happen during fanboy console war on forums.
After the "we believe in generations" bullshit from sony they are as believable as microsoft to my eyes.
Jigga117
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You know it is a mess because one of the YouTube sites got 4@@120hz 10bit 444 to push thru on one of the receivers with the Xbox Series X. but yet all have a problem with the RTX series at the time. I will look what I saw yesterday and link.
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THE:MILKMAN
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HDMI was supposed have been the one cable for everything standard but has become an even worse mess!
gamechanger87
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Can you send over the link that shows the specs of that chipset and what it supports?
Also, can you show the video that debunks Vincents? I mean the PS5 setting screen shows a stepdown to YUV when you go 4K 120.
gamechanger87
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Wait so all your posts were before you watched the video, and now after watching the video you are agreeing that he can't exceed 32GB just like the PS5 setting screen says?
Can you also provide the link with the datasheet for the Panasonic chipset that you supposedly found which says its 48GB?
Or are you just making stuff up as you go?
FrankWza
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That love to war themselves, yet were super absent in the 3rd party game face-offs. See something slightly negative again, and they pounce like a pack of coyote.
And yes, this happens on both sides.
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yeah. It absolutely is on both sides. But worlds most powerful and 3rd party dominant claim getting crushed was just too much. It was supposed to be the selling point when Sony released exclusive after exclusive A
and yet, ratchet, DeS remake and GT7 plus others will release exclusively on PS5. So many exclusives that it will still prove true. Why Piss off 100 million people by not releasing a few cross gen games. They have aaa exclusives to spare. Meanwhile, the most powerful console is done. RDNA was full alright, full of crap. Wait for those Bethesda multiplats....
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Jigga117
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yeah. It absolutely is on both sides. But worlds most powerful and 3rd party dominant claim getting crushed was just too much. It was supposed to be the selling point when Sony released exclusive after exclusive A
and yet, ratchet, DeS remake and GT7 plus others will release exclusively on PS5. So many exclusives that it will still prove true. Why Piss off 100 million people by not releasing a few cross gen games. They have aaa exclusives to spare. Meanwhile, the most powerful console is done. RDNA was full alright, full of crap. Wait for those Bethesda multiplats....
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This is a sad ass post
FrankWza
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For who? Not for anyone with a PS5.This is a sad ass post
StateofMajora
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It's pretty amazing. I imagined a few like
DeepEnigma
breathing into a paper sack. I suppose i'm an xbox fanboy despite not owning the xbone last gen.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It's pretty amazing. I imagined a few like
Yeah, I need the paper sack, even though I have been on the fence with this since I know how these reactionary threads go.
I even said both consoles will probably get updated when they are ready to. It is clear both are not feature complete out of the gate, as it were the gen prior, and the gen prior to that.
If you want to use me as your thesis, find where I pile on Xbox threads like fanatics do to both. I'll wait. Here's a hint, I stay out of them 99% of the time, don't lump me with others.
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GymWolf
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I don't give a damn about stuff like ratchet when the biggest new IPs from last gen are gonna be crossgen for the next 1-2 years, that is not how you believe in generations, no matter the spin some peope try to put on the argument.
I have to thank sony because some games are ps5 exclusives?? That is the fucking bottom of the barrel requirement when you start a new gen ffs...
Microsoft was more honest about exclusives in their ecosystem since day zero.
My point is, they both lie so it's hilarious to think that everything that sony says is true and everything that M says is fake, this is pure fanboyism.
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FrankWza
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not everything. Just prioritize what’s important. Being lied to about hardware, power and console exclusivity is more worse than releasing the biggest franchises so that millions can enjoy.Gotta pay the bills too. There will still be plenty of next gen exclusives. That’s just the way it is. It’s not fanboy. That term gets thrown around too much. Meanwhile, in order for x to deliver what they promised they’re gonna have to release a new console.
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