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[StateofMajora]

422yuv is ass cheeks. It has like a washed over effect.

Yeah. I outputted 1080p on my ps4 pro to get full rgb for this reason.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

Does more HDMI bandwidth increase penis size?

Asking for a friend

 

[Hendrick's]

Clarissa where's that friend at?

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/my-f...ps5-does-not-have-hdmi-2-1-functions.1577037/

 

[StateofMajora]

Does more HDMI bandwidth increase penis size?

Asking for a friend

It does if you’re a PlayStation fanboy apparently.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Clarissa where's that friend at?

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/my-f...ps5-does-not-have-hdmi-2-1-functions.1577037/

Clarissa, keep your friend. He was right the whole time.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

You numptys really believe this is a hardware cap

 

[MrFunSocks]

4k 120hz is a pipe dream. Hell 4k 60 still seems out of reach without scaling.

Ori and the Will of the Wisps, an absolutely amazing playing and looking game, is Native 4K and 120fps with HDR on the series X already.

 

[MasterCornholio]

You numptys really believe this is a hardware cap

We will see what happens after the VRR update.

 

[ethomaz]

So what games are running at 4K 120fps then?

Most 120fps games outputs at 4k120fps with HDR included... that is the signal that go thought HDMI.

CoD for example.

 

[StateofMajora]

You numptys really believe this is a hardware cap

It could be.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

It could be.

So unlikely it's not even worth entertaining the thought

 

[StateofMajora]

So unlikely it's not even worth entertaining the thought

Well, hopefully you troopers survive if it happens to be the case

 

[Clarissa]

Clarissa where's that friend at?

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/my-f...ps5-does-not-have-hdmi-2-1-functions.1577037/

He linked Vincent Teoh's video in our chat and is laughing his ass off.

 

[ethomaz]

I was reading a bit more about hat.

PS5 can output in 4k120 HDR... so if the HDR is 4:4:4 or 10bits already debunk the OP video.

 

[CobraXT]

This and no VRR means 120fps are not worth it on the PS5

 

[itsjustJEFF]

alright boys, who we starting a class action lawsuit against today jk relax boys, it'll all be okay in the end

 

[Great Hair]

Microsoft recommends to play at 4K60 with no VRR anyway ... as there are currently some issue with VRR (not sure if fixed yet).

Known Issues on Xbox Series X|S

Last Updated: 3/22/2021 at 5:00PM PST Hi there, It's an exciting time. The Xbox Series X|S consoles have both launched and we hope you're enjoying your time with the next generation of gaming. In the

answers.microsoft.com

 

[MDSLKTR]

Whoopsie daisie!

4k 120hz is a pipe dream. Hell 4k 60 still seems out of reach without scaling.

I am playing Halo MCC and Warzone in pristine 4k/120. The dream is now.

 

[DeadOblivion78]

Matt from the other site said this will be updated.

Sony PS5 HDMI 2.1 Bandwidth is Currently Capped at 32Gbps (vs Xbox Series X 40Gbps) News

I wonder if this is related to there not being VRR and ALLM which are HDMI 2.1 features. What the lower bandwidth means is that less color information is delivered when the output is @ 120hz. Someone who knows more than me can correct me but in real terms 99.9% of people won't be able to notice...

www.resetera.com

 

[gamechanger87]

Matt from the other site said this will be updated.

Sony PS5 HDMI 2.1 Bandwidth is Currently Capped at 32Gbps (vs Xbox Series X 40Gbps) News

I wonder if this is related to there not being VRR and ALLM which are HDMI 2.1 features. What the lower bandwidth means is that less color information is delivered when the output is @ 120hz. Someone who knows more than me can correct me but in real terms 99.9% of people won't be able to notice...

www.resetera.com

He then said all he was told was that the chipset was HDMi 2.1 and he hoped it would be updated. He doesnt know anything.

 

[Inviusx]

4k in the context of this thread means 2160p.

Just because it's scaling to 4k doesn't mean it's 2160p at 120hz. That's the difference and that's why the higher bandwidth is required.

No game exists on these new consoles that offers 2160p at 120hz with full 4:4:4 RGB HDR.

 

[iamvin22]

I was reading a bit more about hat.

PS5 can output in 4k120 HDR... so if the HDR is 4:4:4 or 10bits already debunk the OP video.

Vincent is my guy buy when I saw it wasn't 4:4:4 at 10 I knew what was happening

 

[longdi]

im loss with so many hdmi specs

so can i say Sony cheaps out on the hdmi soc, and ps5 is hardware locked from full hdmi2.1 performance?

 

[Reallink]

98%+ people have already been viewing 4:2:2 (including on Series X) and will continue to do so unless they're running their TV in the (usually semi-hidden) PC mode. Virtually all TV's will convert RGB or 4:4:4 into 4:2:2 when outside of PC mode. Even if this proves to be a hardware limit (it's most likely just an early firmware limit), it's a non issue outside of test patterns or desktop use.

 

[Kerotan]

Is there any reason why Sony and MS are not offering full 48gb/s out the gate and instead later? What is the benefit of patching it in. Do they have to pay HDMI increased royalty fees?

 

[ShirAhava]

Its almost like the PS5 is just a PS4 PRO+, a crossgen stopgap system and by the time things get serious the PS5 Pro aka the real PS5 will be out

More money for sony I guess seems like a real racket for 500 quid but its nice for the kids and the poors

I live in the adult gaming world with things like displayport and DLSS so its not my problem I suppose

 

[Jigga117]

I was reading a bit more about hat.

PS5 can output in 4k120 HDR... so if the HDR is 4:4:4 or 10bits already debunk the OP video.

if it is capped it isn’t outputting with 444 HDR because it has to be 40.1Gbps for that. It will do 4k@120 without it at 32Gbps

 

[JONEZZEEonGAF]

Imagine complaining about 8k when 95% of people don't have 4k haha.

 

[makemehappyagain]

And VRR?

They have a 48gbps spec in the x900h, and they were hocking that TV alongside the PS5 working closely together with their other divisions. I would be shocked if it weren’t a matching setup.

You picked a very bad example. The Sony XH900 X90H has terrible 120hz performance. The picture is very blury which suggests the TV is nowhere near 48gb bandwidth either. Sony said it will not be fixed. I'm happy I have held off buying both.

 

[Reallink]

Is there any reason why Sony and MS are not offering full 48gb/s out the gate and instead later? What is the benefit of patching it in. Do they have to pay HDMI increased royalty fees?

Price and availability of the actual HDMI chipsets. The jump from 40 to 48Gbps only adds 2 bits (i.e. 4K/120 RGB 10bit becomes 4K/120 RGB 12bit). AFAIK no current TV's have 12 bit panels, so it's basically just a future proof paper spec. MS's 40Gbps cap is likely a hardware limit which can't be patched in. Sony's 32Gbps is more likely to be a software limit. Ultimately neither one matters, almost everyone is going to be running in 4K/120 4:2:2 10bit.

 

[bitbydeath]

So what games are running at 4K 120fps then?

On PS5 currently?

• COD Cold War
• Rainbow Six Siege
• Dirt 5

 

[Jigga117]

On 2019/2020 OLEDs this is what you should see when it is set to 4k@120hdr. I have my Series X on my 77/55 C9s set with RGB

Dashboard is in SDR 10BIT

Game is HDR along with the PHY showing the bandwidth is locked in.

 

[MrFunSocks]

Microsoft recommends to play at 4K60 with no VRR anyway ... as there are currently some issue with VRR (not sure if fixed yet).

Known Issues on Xbox Series X|S

Last Updated: 3/22/2021 at 5:00PM PST Hi there, It's an exciting time. The Xbox Series X|S consoles have both launched and we hope you're enjoying your time with the next generation of gaming. In the

answers.microsoft.com

They don’t “recommend” that at all lol. That’s one way to spread FUD I guess.

Telling people how to try and fix possible problems with some TVs and 120hz is in no way the same as recommending you only use 60hz lol. Quit the bullshit.

 

[MrFunSocks]

He then said all he was told was that the chipset was HDMi 2.1 and he hoped it would be updated. He doesnt know anything.

Console manufacturers don’t usually tell the community manager at a third party dev studio about hdmi specs and firmware updates.

4k in the context of this thread means 2160p.

Just because it's scaling to 4k doesn't mean it's 2160p at 120hz. That's the difference and that's why the higher bandwidth is required.

No game exists on these new consoles that offers 2160p at 120hz with full 4:4:4 RGB HDR.

Ori and the Will of the Wisps says hi.

 

[ANIMAL1975]

Ooof, the gift that keeps on giving.

HDMI cable firmware > software tools

 

[Jigga117]

as far LG 2020 models the beta was already out and about to release the official firmware that fixes the issue with VRR/120. Also if anyone sets their LG OLEDs HDMI port to PC mode, make sure to turn Live plus off to stop flickering issues

 

[Elios83]

In this thread some people are sooo looking for console war ammos and they don't even know the difference between chroma subsampling, full RGB color and 4K 120Hz.
This is just a firmware limit in the chroma subsampling output that will be fixed. It has nothing to do with 120fps. It's obvious that right now PS5 has limited video output options in the firmware, they will be added with upgrades, 8K and VRR are coming, they're considering 1440p as well.

 

[ZywyPL]

That might explain the lack of Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos/DTS:X...

 

[Jigga117]

4k in the context of this thread means 2160p.

Just because it's scaling to 4k doesn't mean it's 2160p at 120hz. That's the difference and that's why the higher bandwidth is required.

No game exists on these new consoles that offers 2160p at 120hz with full 4:4:4 RGB HDR.

Ori says hi

 

[MrS]

Did he try the TV's PC input?
From hwzone:

So how does one do this?

 

[Jigga117]

That might explain the lack of Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos/DTS:X...

There is no plans to support either of those formats

 

[Elias]

Best picture quality for games on Xbox Series X!

 

[Outrunner]

That update is for 8K support though.

You need the 48gb for 8k

 

[MrFunSocks]

So how does one do this?

Usually in your hdmi/input settings you can choose a mode for what is plugged in on that input. Choose PC or Game mode as they get rid of all of the post processing crap and have reduced lag etc.

 

[Elias]

Matt from the other site said this will be updated.

Sony PS5 HDMI 2.1 Bandwidth is Currently Capped at 32Gbps (vs Xbox Series X 40Gbps) News

I wonder if this is related to there not being VRR and ALLM which are HDMI 2.1 features. What the lower bandwidth means is that less color information is delivered when the output is @ 120hz. Someone who knows more than me can correct me but in real terms 99.9% of people won't be able to notice...

www.resetera.com

He said the same thing about Quick resume, and we all know how that turned out.

 

[Jigga117]

You need the 48gb for 8k

No you don’t. You need 48Gbps for 4k@120hz 444 12bit.

32Gbps can do 4k@120hz 8.10 and 12bit. It also can do 8k@30. Not at 444

40.1Gbps is needed for 4k@120hz 444 10bit HDR and 8k@60which is what all TVs on the market are for the panels.

 

[Leyasu]

This is nothing. Sony will update the firmware soon enough.

 

[Goncas2]

The thing that no one noticed until a guy went through some obscure TV settings will ruin 4K120 gaming on PS5.

 

[Damigos]

How many people purchased TV's for a PS5? Is it normal to purchase a new TV just for a video game console?

I always change my tv at the beginning of a new gen

 

[Jigga117]

He said the same thing about Quick resume, and we all know how that turned out.

Quick resume and bandwidth requirements for HDMI are not remotely relative. The video proves what we can see when he uses a CX to test it. It can be updated