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NPD Sales Results for November 2015 [Up3: Combined Hardware For PS4 + XB1 + Wii U]
- Thread starter Nirolak
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Until Dawn please..!!!!
Thanks cream. Any Until Dawn numbers?
DeadOnions
Member
Who did Tomb Raider benefit? A completely pointless deal that leaves CD over open water.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
They probably are just a little. The Gears/Halo/Forza wash, rinse, repeat cycle has hurt the sales. SW is better these days all around but I said the same thing about their pillars around 2009/10. This isn't a new take by me but I has to chime in and agree with you.
Yea his budget was way out of hand but do we know if the game was profitable for Konami?
I don't know how it could be.
OfficerRaichu15
Member
Cream you know you want to show some Splatoon and Until Dawn numbers.
To piggyback onto this Konami marketing research probably got them to expect this and that's why the LE console wasn't released in the US
Investing that much also made sense if they planned on using the engine for subsequent games. To bad we won't be getting any more AAA games using the Fox engine
Stone Ocean
Member
Game sold what, less than 2 million WW? I very much doubt it paid for itself
This deserves the biggest fucking "b...b...b...Konami shipped 8 BILLION copies and Quiet is not exploitative f u anita!!!" post ever but I won't do that.
Everyone's all #FucKonami because, well, they suck, but it's obvious Kojima lost the plot too. It seems silly to me to die on that hill.
I sure hope Kojima didn't expect to have his moneypit amortized over multiple games...given you know damn well he would have spent another $80MM on the next one.
I don't know if it's a best practice to budget one title to lose money based off a future title 5+ years out. Seems pretty bad given opportunity cost and uncertainty.
Everyone's all #FucKonami because, well, they suck, but it's obvious Kojima lost the plot too. It seems silly to me to die on that hill.
Investing that much also made sense if they planned on using the engine for subsequent games. To bad we won't be getting any more AAA games using the Fox engine
I sure hope Kojima didn't expect to have his moneypit amortized over multiple games...given you know damn well he would have spent another $80MM on the next one.
I don't know if it's a best practice to budget one title to lose money based off a future title 5+ years out. Seems pretty bad given opportunity cost and uncertainty.
Investing that much also made sense if they planned on using the engine for subsequent games. To bad we won't be getting any more AAA games using the Fox engine
I'm taking you didn't mean to quote my post
This is such a bad argument that gets trotted out every time this discussion comes up. No, it probably was not worth the investment, even if Konami kept making games.Investing that much also made sense if they planned on using the engine for subsequent games. To bad we won't be getting any more AAA games using the Fox engine
TheSlySoul
Member
People were calling me crazy when I said it would not sell 5 million this year. Feels so satisfying.
Actually, I think that is the only sure way to make public excited about PS4 port RotTR. Currently everyone is in the "meh" mode because they have to wait and marketing for Xbone version was far from good.
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Man, Sony is fucking it up with console stock. Uncharted Collection [dropped to #64 on hourly list] is out of stock on Amazon for days now, and it will get replenished on Dec 23, eight days from now! ~_~ Battlefront bundle at $299 is the only big PS4 seller right now [#2 in hourly list].
That doesn't mean they fucked up. I think it is their plan. NDC for black Friday. SW for movie week. BO3 for Christmas week. If you look at the charts the SW bundle is shooting up the yearly.
It would be a fuck up if they didn't have any stock. There are plenty of Ps4s in the channel.
The bundles Sony wants to sell are available.
Where is the fuck up. Do you think people were buying the NDC bundle for the game. When all bundles were $349 the NDC one was the lowest selling.
OK I LIED totally doing it
Me: anyone still think it was worth giving Kojima a blank check? Topic is last month's NPD.
I GOT BOOMED
MGS has never sold what TR reboot sold, I think!
Me: anyone still think it was worth giving Kojima a blank check? Topic is last month's NPD.
I GOT BOOMED
MGS has never sold what TR reboot sold, I think!
1st Course
Member
Well even if it was profitable that's not the end to the story. Konami probably think those 80 million or so that were spent on MGSV would've been better spent on more profitable ventures.
Opportunity cost and all that jazz.
Stone Ocean
Member
Do we have UK/EU numbers? I know the JP sales were around 600k, something like that.
TheSlySoul
Member
It shipped 3 million worldwide probably. Sold less than that of course.
Edit: Hope the 200k was worth the 1 million missed sales. Bah, who am I kidding Microsoft probably paid millions to make it a timed exclusive.
How is MGSV outside of the US? Is the market big?
Bomba Olympics.
Bomba Olympics.
lol, indeed.
DeadOnions
Member
I always loved the line that Mad Max would be crushed by MGSV releasing on the same day. Anyone know Max's numbers?
Japan is over 600k not counting digital
Steamspy is around 800k
<1M retail in the US
I could try to dig some EU numbers in old PAL threads but EU is not a smaller market than US, and it had the bundle there too
then there is ROTW
The game should be around ~3.5 minimum.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
a little lttp, but wow.
SE done fucked it up.
SE done fucked it up.
My guess is bigger than US hence the LE console in Europe
Eh, more like maximum.
Stone Ocean
Member
Oh yeah, completely forgot about Steam, silly me. That ain't too bad.
I don't know what Kojima/Konami's original intentions were. I'm just giving my opinion on why they would invest so much into a new engine ¯\_(ツ
_/¯igordennis
Member
I am disappoint kev, i thought that post would be more epic.
Melchiah
Member
So, you wouldn't feel the same at all, if Xbox related franchise, like Mass Effect, would be timed exclusive to PS4/PC?
Konami deserves, but the game is very good and should have sold better.
I think you are correct and I still believe it's a bad deal for everyone but in my eyes I think it may not be so bad for SE Depending on how much money they got from Microsoft and how much PC sales they'll get in the spring
Edit: The funny thing is is that some people think that Microsoft is the only one who came out good in this deal but in the end they might wind up the worst because nothing that they hope to achieve out of it seems to come to fruition - basing on my speculation on why they made the deal
Assuming a normal digital ratio worldwide it should be over that but I don't really care, just pointing out that under 2-3M was unreasonable.
The game didn't drop in price yet as mgs games always so it should keep selling over time too.
Eh, Microsoft were FAR less aggressive on bundling and pricing than they were last year and they still kept their YoY increase streak. They had a very good line-up and it did its job.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Wait, those MGSV numbers surely can't include PC going by Steamspy?
http://steamspy.com/app/287700
These are WW figures, but still seems too low, taking into consideration all 3 platforms.
http://steamspy.com/app/287700
These are WW figures, but still seems too low, taking into consideration all 3 platforms.
ConfusedGamer
Member
Didn't the game win PlayStation Platinum award for shipping more then 1 million copies in Japan + Asia?
Anyone have sales figures for the other MGS mainline games? Wondering if this is par for the series or a symptom of a steady decline. It certainly reviewed well, had great word of mouth among core gamers. Did GZ maybe turn the general consumer off? Or poor marketing to blame? Sounds like for whatever reason it just didn't reach the Target/Walmart audience.
MGS 4 closed 2008 (7 months of sales) with 1.08m. Plus 220k bundles were sold in first month.
What would digital sales be doing in an NPD thread?
"V LTD < 1M" is talking US retail only.
1 million for V seems in line with that then. It will probably be up over 4 by some considering PC and digital.
Honestly I looked back and aside from some literally insane mgs fans who are insane most people agreed with me. So I guess I just have a thing for insane mgs fans. I used to be one so it hurts.
It has dropped in price.
V came out in 5 platforms compared to 1 by 4 though. So it should be expected.