Username1198
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Hollywood needs to burn to the ground and start over. This is just beyond sad and disgusting. Fucking monsters. Glad these assholes are being put into the spotlight, and I always new affleck was gross for some reason.
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New Yorker: Harvey Weinstein's Accusers Tell Their Stories
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This shit is going on at your local big box store. Don't get it twisted. This is not a problem of what you see as the elite.This isn't about the casting couch with fat big wigs.
This is a culture that has protected these actions since forever, and is reverting back to further protect these rapey ass actions once again.
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People love to point a finger at Hollywood as if that absolves them and makes them better when the same shit is happening right next door and they do nothing. These people make movies for you.
they aren't feeding you. Get a fucking grip on the fame/economical envy. Love to hate what you just can't divorce yourself from.
moltonasty
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And people still voted for him. Women still voted for him. Its a sick sad world out there.
Brad Pitt did something back in '95 when Weinstein messed with Gwyneth Paltrow.
Threatened to beat the shit out of Weinstein if he didn't stop it.
Source:
http://people.com/movies/inside-sto...ouri-whooping-after-gwyneth-paltrow-incident/
Worth noting, Pitt wasn't a name at the time, so taking a stand like that was doing more than just the right thing. He was also risking his career.
Spiritual_Chaos
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That depends on your definition of being "a name".
Frustrated_me
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What I don't get is how did Trump survive the Pussygate and Weinstein couldn't (not saying Weinstein should get away)? I mean, Trump was accused by 10 or so women of sexual abuse, even admitted to grabbing them by the pussy on tape!
Fucking, hell. Nothing makes sense.
Fucking, hell. Nothing makes sense.
Risky, yes, but I don't think it was quite fair to say that Pitt wasn't a major name at that point, already having some really big hits under his belt like Interview with the Vampire and Legends of the Fall, and given the time period, it wouldn't surprise me if Seven was in the midst of its initial run, which further cemented him as a rising talent and a bankable name.
https://twitter.com/Kevinliptakcnn/status/917884860697661440The Obamas release a statement on Harvey Weinstein:
Edit: Second source:
https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/917885599058747392
the_darkness
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This is such a bullshit take.
Did you want Brad Pitt to take out an ad in Variety claiming "Harvey Weinstein asked my girlfriend to give him a massage"?
Like, what are you expecting from people?
chrisPjelly
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Man, shame that Pitt is kinda known to be a jerk now. Kind of puts into perspective why a lot of big names in Hollywood are known to be complete asswipes now. The toxicity of the industry literally forces people to mold themselves to "fit in" and "deal with it" or get out otherwise.
Sort of seems fake, tbh.
There isn't a lot of light between Hollywood and 24 hour national news... Same orbit to some degree
I hope others like Bryan singer get what's coming to them too.. There are many other monsters hiding behind their art and power
Pitt's probably the closest with how successful Plan B Entertainment has been, especially as they've got three Best Picture wins in the past decade, but they're strictly production and have to partner with the studios for distribution.
That makes sense. You're saying that the issue of people of power or actually, sexual assault in general being unreported or covered up as a culture is where attention should be focused on, not necessarily the image of elites doing whatever the fuck they want. Which is fucked up too, but now we're talking about the legit rape culture that is prevalent in general that needs to be torn down. Am I correct?
broncobuster
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I know there's a tendency to paint everything as good or bad, but it's not that simple and Terry Crews' experience paints a good picture as to why. Besides the fact that the binary attitude is counterproductive to fixing the cultural problem in Hollywood and other industries.
And as been pointed out, the people who knew about Harvey Weinstein were so far reaching that they'd openly make jokes about it at the Oscars.
Sad reason is Hollywood has a tendency to lean liberal and progressive, even if it's just a mask for some. Weinstein's "apology" letter tries to deflect from his actions by mentioning how he'll tackle the NRA and Trump. Like, OK? Why's that relevant when you're being accused of sexually assaulting women? Honestly if Trump's allegations came out when he was doing his reality show crap, he'd have been worse off.
robotzombie
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Edit: Oh, nevermind, its imbedded in the actual article
Asia Argento says that Miramax Italy producer (Fabrizio Lombardo) whom Sharon Waxman had been trying to report on was the man who brought her to Weinstein's room pretending that there was a party. Also says that while she was talking to Farrow for his story this guy started sending her "creepy, intimidating text msgs."
It's the email prankster dude. Fooled Bloom, Weinstein, and Davis into responding to phony versions of Weinstein, Dunn, and Weinstein, respectively.
Ahhh gotcha.
Pretty much. Crews' experience and his silence (even as someone who had made it) kind of sheds a whole new perspective for me on actors/actresses and how they handle this kind of behavior from people that powerful.
Yeah that's pretty much my main point. Government, Movie studios, News rooms, Grocery stores, college campuses. We can go down the list and really nail where the problems are, but its' everywhere. More so where we can see it in places less protected by money. But it's all the same deal. Raise these knucklehead children right, tar and feather those that are guilty and let em rot.
radios shipping overview
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Monster. Take his name off of everything.
polyh3dron
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he definitely was a name.. Cool World had already been out by that time.
Ryzaki009
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Yep. And when people immediately side eye someone making an accusation because "she's lying for attention." it just contributes to that shit.
The rather large counterpoint to the "everyone knew" thing is that President Obama, the most powerful man on the earth, sent his daughter to intern for him. So we can safely say he didn't know. This is a dude who had the NSA, FBI, and CIA working for him. So anyone saying "everyone knew" fundamentally has to reconcile the fact that the most powerful man on earth didn't know.
SCULLIBUNDO
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His wife is leaving him.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...-she-is-leaving-him-1047559?facebook_20171010
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...-she-is-leaving-him-1047559?facebook_20171010
Oh hey, an actual President.
Good for her, but given how long this has been going for, it's really surprising that it took this long to hoof it.
You'd think that we've seen enough of these cases by now to realize that, when a rich and powerful man is accused of sexual assault, it's almost always true and that there are many more victims waiting in the wings to speak out about it.
1. He didn't say he didn't already know. So he probably knew.
2. What took him so long? Even Hillary got a statement out before him.
3. Still light years better than Trump obviously.
I've said so many times that this fucker is rotten but I always get silenced here. Glad the truth is finally out. Of course he's complicit. His own brother is a sexual abuser and he's said nothing about him.
Also, if women like Gwyneth Paltrow and Angelina Jolie barely escaped Weinstein's clutch, can you see how less famous actress can?
There's absolutely nothing he could say to make any of this better. He is just like Weinstein himself. His words have no weight on this. Not sure why anyone is expecting him to say something, so we could call him a hypocrite?
Everyone no matter how closely or remotely connected is guilty by association and part of huge cover up? Had Obamas said they didn't know you would be posting how they are just saying it to save face, but is blatant lie etc etc
OG Shaka Zulu
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Obama did not do due diligence. He could have gotten intel on Weinstein but blindly trusted him as a friend and donor. I hope he had a talk to Malia about the industry in general as the President's daughter would either be a thrill or hands-off/nope for a predator.
DerangedHermit
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Ohh, nice, more dumb shit.
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Anyway, saw a tweet saying that NBC has been sitting on this story for months, including camera interview with actresses talking about it, until Farrow gave up and went to thenewyorker. (will link when i find it)
e: here it is : https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nbc-harvey-weinstein-investigation_us_59dd2739e4b04fc4e1e96d08
statham
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sure its been posted, but wow.
https://twitter.com/AsiaArgento/status/917770645966114816
https://twitter.com/AsiaArgento/status/917770645966114816
I'm guessing she could tolerate it because his power benefited her as well. Obviously she knew sordid stuff was going on.
Everybody would at least have heard the rumors, the people closest to him should have been able to confirm their suspicions unless they willingly turned a blind eye.
And now they're one of the main media outlets covering the story. How nasty of them.
Media conglomerates were a mistake. NBC has too many hands in the pie, so they were too afraid to rock the boat.
Quoted for posterity.
Ryzaki009
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But that minor chance she's lying tho
(I shouldn't have to say it but that's snark)
And yeah it's pretty disgusting how much of a victim count so many of these dudes have because of the instant defense and how hopeless many victims feel about going forward.
I don't expect Trump to say anything. And I don't think he should for the reasons you stated.
SCULLIBUNDO
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It's the same one from the op story. I posted a full transcript on page 2 for those who couldn't view it.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=251569238&postcount=55
Lmao. Trying to save his own ass and hopefully failing.