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[Craig of War]

 

[jshackles]

What I've been worried about for a while now and everyone said I was crazy and that PS4 games "would just work".

I guess we'll find out in November how many games are actually backwards compatible, because it sure doesn't seem like Sony is going to give us any solid details themselves.

 

[MrS]

Bad if true. From a selfish perspective, I don't care. PS5 games only for me from here on out.

 

[VinnyMac]

Sony really needs a showcase of the UI,BC ect this leaking is sad like what are they waiting on price and dates out like let's goooooo.

 

[a multicultural team of v]

welp this obviously means only 3 or 4 games will be backwards compatible, pack it up sony its over

 

[TLZ]

Maybe this is because the system OS is not the final version that's going to be available for public at launch. Probably by then we'll have the public release OS that'll have all games unlocked, like how the SX currently doesn't have them all unlocked.

This is what I hope.

 

[Sir Vilhelm]

I can't believe they haven't figured out cloud saves,I haven't manually touched a save file since the 360. How are playstation fans ok with this?

I can jump from multiple Xbox consoles in different locations or jump on xcloud and my saves are just there. Hell last week I downloaded Alan Wake after finishing the Control DLC and my xbox 360 Alan Wake save was there from 2010!

 

[gamerguywashere]

lame...they better be tweaking every game to load in 2s, but what if I want to play a game that isn't supported yet...

BC is my only real reason to early adopt...I can wait a year to play demon souls while they finish engineering BC, maybe there will be a price drop at some point

 

[plip.plop]

Not surprised, Jim Ryan is no fan of Backward compatibility. It was more than likely a low priority feature.

 

[dotnotbot]

I can't believe they haven't figured out cloud saves,I haven't manually touched a save file since the 360. How are playstation fans ok with this?

I can jump from multiple Xbox consoles in different locations or jump on xcloud and my saves are just there. Hell last week I downloaded Alan Wake after finishing the Control DLC and my xbox 360 Alan Wake save was there from 2010!

What do you mean "they haven't figured out"? You've got cloud saves with PS Plus. They work with PS Now.

 

[p_xavier]

The PSTV fiasco with "compatibility" was so infuriating that I hope people will get fired if something similar is up.

 

[a multicultural team of v]

lame...they better be tweaking every game to load in 2s, but what if I want to play a game that isn't supported yet...

BC is my only real reason to early adopt...I can wait a year to play demon souls while they finish engineering BC, maybe there will be a price drop at some point

the ability to play games you can play right now is the reason to buy a new console, not the ability to play games you can only play on that console.

ok.

 

[baphomet]

Maybe this is because the system OS is not the final version that's going to be available for public at launch. Probably by then we'll have the public release OS that'll have all games unlocked, like how the SX currently doesn't have them all unlocked.

This is what I hope.

Neither console is going to play all the previous generations games.

 

[gamerguywashere]

the ability to play games you can play right now is the reason to buy a new console, not the ability to play games you can only play on that console.

ok.

as someone that only had a PS4 for a short time, yes, that's how i feel


i hope that's ok with erry'one

 

[mckmas8808]

I can't believe they haven't figured out cloud saves,I haven't manually touched a save file since the 360. How are playstation fans ok with this?

I can jump from multiple Xbox consoles in different locations or jump on xcloud and my saves are just there. Hell last week I downloaded Alan Wake after finishing the Control DLC and my xbox 360 Alan Wake save was there from 2010!

Because most people don't game on multiple different PS4s.

 

[Trogdor1123]

This sounds like it might be zero improvements at all...

 

[TLZ]

Neither console is going to play all the previous generations games.

By release they should though. Of course apart from games that use Kinect or whatever.

 

[lastmessiah]

Seems like they are just going to try to emulate the PS4 OS for "backwards compatibility". Oof.

 

[ipukespiders]

Every fucking time I turn on my PS5 I have to update the firmware!

 

[Dr.Morris79]

Because most people don't game on multiple different PS4s.

But a lot do..

 

[Unknown?]

What I've been worried about for a while now and everyone said I was crazy and that PS4 games "would just work".

I guess we'll find out in November how many games are actually backwards compatible, because it sure doesn't seem like Sony is going to give us any solid details themselves.

No they said that most or 99% will work and that likely still is true. They have to put this in for the few that don't work. They did this on PS2 for PS1 games as well.

 

[The_Mike]

welp this obviously means only 3 or 4 games will be backwards compatible, pack it up sony its over

But someone here told me all games (99%) would be available?

 

[Piku_Ringo]

• Wishlists on PS5
• Parties can include up to 100 people
• Share video clips, albums, artists, playlists, tracks on PS5
• You can start something called a "Takedown"
• Change party names and images
• PlayStation Store will show which games are on PS+, PS Now and the PS+ Collection

interesting

 

[a multicultural team of v]

But someone here told me all games (99%) would be available?

What part of this in any way contradicts this?

 

[01011001]

the fact that there's a "Boost Mode Enabled" tag does hopefully not mean that these games are a minority

 

[Sir Vilhelm]

What do you mean "they haven't figured out"? You've got cloud saves with PS Plus. They work with PS Now.

If you have to manually manage and pay for your saves, that is wrong.

Because most people don't game on multiple different PS4s.

You have numbers to back that claim up? Regardless this is a new generation and inexcusable.

 

[Trogdor1123]

This sounds like it might be zero improvements at all...

Nm, missed the ps5 boost mode line. This is something I want info on.

 

[Laconian Sword]

What a stupid conclusion based on error messages. Of course they have to cover the various possibilities no matter how rare and that in no way negates the 99% of games working.

Hope you guys are being paid well for this. Otherwise, I suggest a course in logic.

 

[Skifi28]

So we have "leaked" error messages that confirm the things we've already been told. Sounds....normal?

 

[ManaByte]

-Backwards Compatibility:

• "playing PS4 games on PS5, some functionalities available on PS4 may not be available. See www.playstation.com/ps5-backwards-compatibility for more details." (dead link, currently)
• "This PS4 game isn't supported with your PS5's current system software. We're continuing to make more PS4 games playable on PS5. Update your PS5, and then try playing the game"
• "This PS4 game isn't supported with your PS5's current system software. We're continuing to make more PS4 games playable on PS5. Update your PS5, and then try playing the game."
• "PS5 boost mode enabled"

So, not all PS4 games will be supported, and indeed, as suggested a few months back, you'll need to update the system OS to access newly compatible PS4 games.

 

[TGO]

It's an error message?
This doesn't tell us anything
The Xbox would have something similar.

 

[Mmnow]

I'm not surprised by the idea of games being added in batches. I'm sure it was in a leak a few months ago.

Those top 100 games, pretending that's all we'll get, probably covers everything that most people could possibly want. That's a lot of games - certainly almost every AAA release immediately worth replaying. There's always gonna be disappointment if the game you want isn't immediately playable, but depending what's going on, most people will have something to keep them going. Especially with the PS+ Collection. And I expect more than 100 games.

The issue is what's holding the system back? Rights probably. That'd explain Jim proudly announcing 99 per cent CAN run, and it would be characteristically tone deaf into the bargain. There's not enough information to speculate fully though. It might even be the error message for the one per cent confirmed, so I'll leave it there.

I'm more interested in what PS4 features won't work on PS5. Maybe it's just legal protection, but is there anything obvious I'm missing? Features we know aren't coming forward?

 

[Andodalf]

Would be weird to have so many messages if they're all available like that other thread told me

 

[KingdomHeartsFan]

Can it install a game off of a PS4 disc or does it just download the full game when you put the disc in?

 

[gamerguywashere]

so close to being cool

 

[Dogman]

Why are people acting like what's shown here is bad? Because they have a text for when the game doesnt work, it all of a sudden means that their BC sucks? Does nobody use their brain here?

 

[gamerguywashere]

so will boost mode effect load times, or will those be just as fast/slow either way?

 

[Athena~]

It’s okay no worries. 99% of PS4 games will work

 

[BeforeU]

I can't believe they haven't figured out cloud saves,I haven't manually touched a save file since the 360. How are playstation fans ok with this?

I can jump from multiple Xbox consoles in different locations or jump on xcloud and my saves are just there. Hell last week I downloaded Alan Wake after finishing the Control DLC and my xbox 360 Alan Wake save was there from 2010!

it took Sony 15 years to let us change gametag lol

 

[Clear]

Kinda obvious that they'd have to keep the compatibility whitelist in the OS, because otherwise it'd force a network check-in every time an old PS4 disc was inserted to confirm its functionality. Which would of course be a pain if you were suffering a network or accessibility issue.

 

[Dr Bass]

Of COURSE there are BC error codes. If even one game can fail there needs to be error codes built into the system. Xbox has these as well. Error handling is beyond standard in programming and building systems.

I feel bad for how crazy people are getting.

 

[DrumNBassDanTTV]

What do you mean "they haven't figured out"? You've got cloud saves with PS Plus. They work with PS Now.

Do they work with ps5 from ps4 games though?

 

[Dogman]

Would be weird to have so many messages if they're all available like that other thread told me

This makes no sense

 

[semicool]

I almost believe Jim Ryan's "99 percent of ps4 games" will be compatible. But I believe this will be eventually and NOT at launch.

 

[Iorv3th]

I would assume there would be situations where a game wouldn't work, like PSVR.

 

[mckmas8808]

Is the OP okay? Or is he on crazy console fanboy drugs?

 

[Gamerguy84]

If there is one thing gaf has taught me in the past couple of weeks its that PS is falling apart and not worth it. /s

 

[Entroyp]

Yea what’s with all the negative fuss lol..

Edit: Oh yea, no freebies/bribes from Sony

 

[Skifi28]

Of COURSE there are BC error codes. If even one game can fail there needs to be error codes built into the system. Xbox has these as well. Error handling is beyond standard in programming and building systems.

I feel bad for how crazy people are getting.

I did not expect to find common sense here. Get out please.

 

[mckmas8808]

But a lot do..

And those that do can just load their save from the PSN servers. Why is that so bad? I'm lost.