Kilau
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Rocksteady didn’t make Gotham Knights, though he was defending the game and devs. He nuked his twitter since then.
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"MANY developers have been sitting in meetings for the past year desperately trying to get Series S launch requirements dropped"
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MisterXDTV
Member
Good luck having the requirement dropped....
Series S is the top selling Xbox console on the market...
Series S is the top selling Xbox console on the market...
Scorn is the first game to use Direct storage on PC, but multiple games already use it on Xbox.
John Wick
Member
Maybe some developers don't want waste the extra time and money needed to optomise for the XSS?
GHG
Member
Show me where I've advocated the cross-gen shit this generation has been plagued with.
Your rebuttal was a false equivalence and factually incorrect. The usual "but Sony" like a bunch of NPCs. At some point you'll learn to think for yourselves.
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MrTroubleMaker
Member
"many" incompetent ones
Calverz
Member
You asked and I delivered. PS4 is holding us back at the moment. Not the series s. This is fact.
Kilau
Member
That was an error, it’s not direct storage on PC. Still no support there until Forespoken.
GHG
Member
Even Microsoft's own games on Windows don't use it which is bizarre.
Oh forgot about that, they removed it from the PC version, but yeah my point was that multiple games already on Xbox it only now starting to be used on PC, because its SDK only came out this year.
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ClosBSAS
Member
Lol while I agree with ur sentiment, ps3 had a ludicrous price. This sounds like an incompetent developer that doesnt have the resources companies alike Ubisoft and others do. I mean, they got cyberpunk running at 60fps.on it and that dumb ass matrix tech demo that ppl salivate their nutsacks over. So it's a capable machine. And if it isn't, then run the game at 900p or less and tend of story
Haggard
Banned
what`s that video supposed to prove? It´s clearly a PS4 game.....It doesn`t even have the same level of purley cosmetical next gen uplift HFW has.....
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The series S is exposing lots of developers lack of talent and will to work.
Also, a very important question most gaming forums are not making as often: What will these devs bring to the table from a GAMEPLAY standpoint with this new tech? High end last gen graphics are shiny enough.
Also, a very important question most gaming forums are not making as often: What will these devs bring to the table from a GAMEPLAY standpoint with this new tech? High end last gen graphics are shiny enough.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The tweets in the OP have been deleted.
Nothing burger thread.
Nothing burger thread.
GHG
Member
New generations are supposed to make things easier for developers to make games and express their talent/creativity due to the extra power available, not more difficult.
Swift_Star
Banned
They should skip the Series if that's really what's holding them back. And port the game if MS pays them to.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Usually the deleted tweets are the something burger. Sounds like he just got a lot of shit from people and couldn't defend his point.
anthony2690
Banned
It was some dude at bossa games claiming they have had Devs have "secret meetings" to drop the series s requirement.
Bossa games:
I am bread
I am fish
Surgeon Simulator
Nothing notable really, they should probably have meetings about making good games
Harsh I know.
I can imagine series S will have less than desirable ports in the future, as the gen goes further along like with Xbox one, but I can't imagine bossa games will be the people pushing any hardware.
crackajack
Member
They better release exclusive to PS5 then? The bigger high end plattform and avoid PC and its myriad of hw combinations like the plague if they have only very limited ressources.
They should pretend to develop multiplatform, ask Sony for some exclusive deal- lol- and forget that Xbox even exists. Since XSX alone won't sell fuckton of copies and should not be target for such a studio.
Or they even more cleverly just target exactly XSS. Which should then result in code and assets that would be easier to make run on XSX, PS5 and many PCs. Make an Indie game like their abilities obviously anyway are limited to?
Punished Miku
Gold Member
I am multiple loaves of bread, exclusive to PS5.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Yeah it’s laughable.
GreatnessRD
Member
I guess that's a fair assessment.
Ezekiel_
Banned
Rocksteady's the dev team working on Suicide Squad, not Gotham Knights
GHG
Member
Wouldn't be the first time a developer has been attacked and been forced to go into hiding this generation due to expressing their opinion and/or sharing some insider details about a particular platform.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
So the Rocksteady Dev....who didn't work on Gotham Knights posits:
On Topic
Bossa Studio is complaining about the power of the Series S?
Mate when this is your portfolio be happy you are even considered a console developer, cuz this is some mobile gaming shit right here:
If the Series S is causing them so much grief, just publish exclusively on PC and PS5.....im sure Sony have been champing at the bit to announce I Am Fish 2 as being a console exclusive at their the next showcase.
The Series S GPU caused the PS5 version to be locked 30fps?
On Topic
Bossa Studio is complaining about the power of the Series S?
Mate when this is your portfolio be happy you are even considered a console developer, cuz this is some mobile gaming shit right here:
If the Series S is causing them so much grief, just publish exclusively on PC and PS5.....im sure Sony have been champing at the bit to announce I Am Fish 2 as being a console exclusive at their the next showcase.
vaibhavpisal
Member
Just make games 540p 30 fps (Series S), 1080p 30 fps (Series X) for games with next gen features Using UE5.
Not even possible to achieve that?
Not even possible to achieve that?
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Klosshufvud
Member
What are those "many studios"? If you can't get your game to run on Series S, chances are you're not getting it to run on any PC that isn't high-end either. They got MSFS working on it just fine and that game is heavy on the CPU side of calculations. And unless you're making the 2022 equivalent of Crysis (I Am Fish devs are not doing this), then it's all just whining being forced to actually do some work.
Klosshufvud
Member
So how can Series S hold back current-gen games if PS4 isn't? Do you have any idea just how many times more powerful Series S is to a PS4?
The SDK only came out this year for PC.
Exclusive to the PS5 Pro because the base PS5 was holding back their vision of something that looks like a 4K version of a Switch title at a dynamic 30 frames per second.So the Rocksteady Dev....who didn't work on Gotham Knights posits:
The Series S GPU caused the PS5 version to be locked 30fps?
On Topic
Bossa Studio is complaining about the power of the Series S?
Mate when this is your portfolio be happy you are even considered a console developer, cuz this is some mobile gaming shit right here:
If the Series S is causing them so much grief, just publish exclusively on PC and PS5.....im sure Sony have been champing at the bit to announce I Am Fish 2 as being a console exclusive at their the next showcase.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
God of War already won GOTY this year and is by far the best game we've ever seen. It will single-handedly show the Series S what a joke it is. ... wait a minute.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
These are his tweets:
I wish gamers understood what 60fps means, in terms of all of the things they *lose* to make the game run that fast. Especially taking into account that we have a current gen console thats not much better than a last gen one. https://t.co/JNn1qYAbNP; Lee Devonald (@LeeDevonald) October 15, 2022
Series S GPU mostly. Multi-platform games always have to optimise for the lowest performer. — Lee Devonald (@LeeDevonald) October 15, 2022
The Deries S exists though. and Microsoft won;t let you launch on one without the other. And entire generation of games, hamstrung by that potato.; Lee Devonald (@LeeDevonald) October 15, 2022
The SDK only came out this year.
What Microsoft games could have been developed around DirectStorage and been released between April and now?
They could atleast have a tech demo of something that looks like it would workout the nextgen machines.
Then I could take ohh its the Series S holding us back statements seriously.
Umbasaborne
Banned
I mean ultimatley publishers can give microsoft an ultimatum, especially if their games sell significantly better on playstation to begin with. Drop series s requirements or we drop xbox all together
GHG
Member
"He makes shit games", "he's a moron".
Keep it up guys. Ali Salehi has been here before.
I was under the impression that it had been available for longer than that but if that's the case then fair enough.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
If you're a huge fan of his games then that's fine. I tried them, and they're not for me. And I like indie games and AA games a lot.
As far as my quoted comment, it's just obviously true. Why do you comment on a public account about your job like this? He's put out multiple games on Gamepass also. The guy is fine making business deals with MS but also publicly talks shit on them? Someone on his team probably let him know how much of an idiot he was being. Do you think that's a great idea?
DaGwaphics
Member
First recommendation, don't waste time in meetings asking for things you are NEVER going to get and spend that time optimizing for the XSS.
The technologies available have never been more flexible than they are today. Just look at how low-end you can go with the PC Spiderman remaster, iGPUs can hit 30fps. They'll manage.
The technologies available have never been more flexible than they are today. Just look at how low-end you can go with the PC Spiderman remaster, iGPUs can hit 30fps. They'll manage.
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You didn't. I saw your post before you edited it. I guess you were still in that post masturbatory bliss period.
Too early to tell.
Most of the games n engines do not have RDNA 2 tech implemented AT ALL.
No Mesh shaders, no Direct Storage or Sampler Feedback that will bring huge jumps in fidelity compared to the previous gen, even on Series S.
And it will take some time to implement them. Cos in some cases it will require a radical change in the workflow
Most of the games n engines do not have RDNA 2 tech implemented AT ALL.
No Mesh shaders, no Direct Storage or Sampler Feedback that will bring huge jumps in fidelity compared to the previous gen, even on Series S.
And it will take some time to implement them. Cos in some cases it will require a radical change in the workflow
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Ansphn
Member
You sure?
GHG
Member
At the end of the day he can do what he wants. This information harms nobody and anybody with a bit of common sense could see this would end up being the case at some point for some developers dependent on their ambitions.
It's not about whether or not I like his games, that's irrelevant. All I'm doing is pointing out the blatant attempts at discrediting by any means possible, all because some people don't like the information he's provided.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
It's not like it's just ad hominem. If someone claims that the Series S is holding back their games, then the first thing I'd do is look at their games.
Do you think it makes sense for him to blame the system specs, given what he's putting out? Meanwhile, God of War Ragnarok is coming out on PS4 in 2 weeks. Apparently not as next-gen as I Am Bread.
Little Chicken
Member
lol @ "please don't judge him by his work! Just believe the rumors!!!"