I never said it had a good story, but that the story is a major reason for why people liked it.
When the extent of the gap is that severe? Yes. People can say otherwise, but they'd be lying.
Yeah, you have no idea what this word means. None of the points you made are objective and going, "No, I'm right," doesn't change that.
No... anyone who dismisses gameplay doesn't deserve to be taken seriously, but that is not what is happening. In general the gameplay is extremely well regarded by most people. You are taking your dislike for it and extrapolating it into everyone just ignoring mediocre or worse gameplay, and that is not the case at all. YOU are the minority in not liking it. Most people do not see gameplay issues that need to be ignored.
Anyone calling anything over or underated is an opinion. There is no universal over or underated, so naturally anytime these words are used, it's suggesting an opinion.
Tell Nintendo about that...
I appreciate the additional context, I think I took 'gameplay' to mean combat, and you were talking more about everything besides combat. I actually love those quiet moments in the game, but that is just personal preference, yours is just as valid.
A choice to make it worse? what the op said is facts, not opinion.
If you want to find who favors the cinematic approach over gameplay ask who would like to see a TV series or a movie of that same game.
That review is actually from The Order 1886 (IGN) and that was a common complaint from that game. For some reason, however, that complaint doesn't carry forward to God of War 2018 despite, clearly, that part of the review applying to both games.
There are exceptions (games that don't really have a story, but have endearing characters, e.g., Super Mario Bros), but overall I agree with this. The Last of Us on HBO, for example. If you really like playing games as opposed to just watching cinematics, why would you choose to watch the show at all? Just play/replay the game instead (which itself is still highly cinematic, a path that Sony has been following since Uncharted).
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Agreed i much prefer the new GOW gameplay. combat is impactful and requires way more skill and thought, vs just button mashing in the old GOW. story is also much better.
People in this thread, including you, are fundamentally arguing in bad faith saying the game parts (set pieces, combat, boss battles, weapon variation, RPG aspects etc) are bad or worse than the old games.
The New ones are your modern Amazon Prime TV Show compared to the late 90's/2000's Summer blockbuster movie of the original trilogy
Sounds like every franchise now. They barely even have recognizably different morality systems, they all carry the same current-day horizon of moralizing for every single campaign even if the game's supposed setting should make it clash diametrically with today's views--and the same case of boring supporting characters, plus the absolutely nauseating idea that you want companions blabbering on in games, or "cinematic" things like narrow passages and slow-walks to build some kind of narrative moment or tension.
I never said anything about Gameplay
Had this conversation with a coworker yesterday. I felt GOW3 was more memorable and exciting to play over both GOW1 and Rag.. they are just unmemorable.
The amount of revisionist history on the old GOW games is astounding
I think the spectacle is exactly why people loved them. Replace Kratos with a random ninja fighting against an army and none of these games would be particularly memorable.
That's my point. They were shallow, all flash no bang. This was fine when GOW was the only game doing this. But everybody else caught up and it left nothing special about GOW
I suppose that's fair. Sometimes I just want a dumb action flick and the old games did that for me. They were a bit like a Roland Emmerich film in that sense but it's also why I loved them. I missed that in GoW 2018.
