smart_brazileiro
Banned
A whole episode just to show a gay romance. What a waste. It has absolutely no story relevance and is only there to pander. Fuck off.
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HBO Original | The Last of Us | Part 1 OT | Endure & Survive
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Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
It will help joel realise a very important choice and decision he has to make later on
Majmun
Member
digdug2
Member
Because gay people don't deserve love or affection? Get your BS outta here.
And skip on Bill imo the best side character in the Last of Us..
Well I think I've watched enough, good job Druckman
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Corpsepyre
Banned
I'd be actually crying if I had spent money and not watched for free. This is just salt because the 1st couple episodes were mostly faithful and a good start and it's a bummer that it is not for OG Last of Us fans, so close to quality darn :/
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Majmun
Member
Can you even watch the series legaly from your part of the world?
digdug2
Member
Does it also mean you'll vacate this thread? If so, then yes, good job Druckman.And skip on Bill imo the best side character in the Last of Us..
Well I think I've watched enough, good job Druckman
Snowdonhoffen
Member
I think you're focusing on the less important thing of the episode then, for whatever reason.
The whole point of this arc was for Joel to find the letter where Bill tells him their job is to protect the ones they love no matter what.
And this is planting the seeds for what Joel will do at the end of the story, his overprotective side and the fear of losing someone will step in and fuck everyone up.
I'm sure some people would have understood the meaning of the episode if Bill had a wife instead, lol.
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smart_brazileiro
Banned
Nowhere did I say this. But if it makes u feel better and more righteous then please go ahead and make a homophobe out of me. What I said it that it has no relevance to the story.
Nemesisuuu
Member
So, 3 episodes done - it seems to me that this is just ok, it can't be put in the same sentence with the classics like The Wire, just shows how inflated scores are.
For me so far this is 6,5-7/10 at best.
Looks like we're living timeline where there is so much garbage put out just for the sake of more content that when we get something that's just little above average it's instantly treated like masterpiece.
But I can understand why someone could enjoy this more than I do, it's all subjective at the end of the day.
For me so far this is 6,5-7/10 at best.
Looks like we're living timeline where there is so much garbage put out just for the sake of more content that when we get something that's just little above average it's instantly treated like masterpiece.
But I can understand why someone could enjoy this more than I do, it's all subjective at the end of the day.
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
I'm watching it tonight. Can't wait for some hardcore gay action!
smart_brazileiro
Banned
Aye. U might be right.
Nemesisuuu
Member
You're in for a treat then!
digdug2
Member
Did you ever think that maybe the show wasn't designed to mirror the game 1 to 1? This episode was perfectly relevant to a story about humans trying to navigate through a post-apocalyptic world where everything is trying to kill them. Maybe you aren't a homophobe, but you are missing the point.
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hemo memo
Member
I thought he already learned that when his daughter died. That’s why he attacked that guard. He looks at Ellie as his own daughter and now giving another chance to protect her. It shouldn’t be this useless letter what drives Joel to protect Ellie no matter what but his love of his life dying daughter that he saw in Ellie.
Venuspower
Member
Solid Episode overall. Though, the weakest episode so far. To my taste, there was a bit too much Bill and Frank and not enough Joel and Ellie. I also found the whole time jump thing a bit unnecessary. Especially the dynamic between Ellie and Bill I found extremely entertaining in the game. So from my point of view it's a bit sad that they completely ignored that.
However, I found the fact that Joel has now received Bill's letter amusing.
However, I found the fact that Joel has now received Bill's letter amusing.
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Nemesisuuu
Member
In most cases, when you see 'xx years ago' in movies and tv series you can expect it's filler time. Not always, but like 90% of the time it's true.
Ulysses 31
Member
Which seems like a big change from the game where he just saw her as a meal ticket at that point in the story. He opens up to her way later after a long time of Ellie pushing the relationship.
Maybe it was the danger + bright flashlight triggering the PTSD and not Ellie though. Seems way too early for Joel to be thinking of Ellie as anything close to his daughter so far.
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Snowdonhoffen
Member
I don't think that was the case. I saw it more as Joel thinking "this is my chance to kill the person that killed my daughter" because in the next episode he was ready to kill Ellie at every moment, you can tell he feels unsure about the whole immune thing until Tess is bitten.
rofif
Banned
That was a great episode. I really liked that they expanded and changed Bill.
I am interested to replay the game now.
IMO it really shows that TV/Movies can be so much more story wise than games and there are few reasons for that:
-You don't play it so they can show you anything. When TLOU2 tried to show different perspectives and timelines, people hated it because they got no patience and Gamers are so stubborn they are not willing to deal with real emotions, o if something in a game goes differently than they imagined, they take offence like small children.
-A big gay episode? Imagine that in games. There would be tweets bashing the game, then boycotting, then suddenly people would be saying "BAD WRITTING".
I kinda hate gemer community sometimes lol. We got a hint of how bad gamers are again just because someone laughed at a scene out of context in forspoken on twitter. Totally ignoring who the character is, why they speak like that, no matter where in the story this is, no matter if the character got an arc and maybe is not a stupid idiot later? no matter. Let's hate the game because "mah bad writting". I hate when people do this, when twitter does that and so on. People think so intellectually highly of themselves, they are too smart to enjoy a simple story that might or might not go somewhere. Imagine how many people didn't play tlou2 at all because of that. Same with Forspoken. It's perfectly serviceable, even addicting game that nobody will play because of some tweets. Gamers suck ass and this is why every single game is the same and anything a bit different gets destroyed.
I am interested to replay the game now.
IMO it really shows that TV/Movies can be so much more story wise than games and there are few reasons for that:
-You don't play it so they can show you anything. When TLOU2 tried to show different perspectives and timelines, people hated it because they got no patience and Gamers are so stubborn they are not willing to deal with real emotions, o if something in a game goes differently than they imagined, they take offence like small children.
-A big gay episode? Imagine that in games. There would be tweets bashing the game, then boycotting, then suddenly people would be saying "BAD WRITTING".
I kinda hate gemer community sometimes lol. We got a hint of how bad gamers are again just because someone laughed at a scene out of context in forspoken on twitter. Totally ignoring who the character is, why they speak like that, no matter where in the story this is, no matter if the character got an arc and maybe is not a stupid idiot later? no matter. Let's hate the game because "mah bad writting". I hate when people do this, when twitter does that and so on. People think so intellectually highly of themselves, they are too smart to enjoy a simple story that might or might not go somewhere. Imagine how many people didn't play tlou2 at all because of that. Same with Forspoken. It's perfectly serviceable, even addicting game that nobody will play because of some tweets. Gamers suck ass and this is why every single game is the same and anything a bit different gets destroyed.
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smart_brazileiro
Banned
I in fact did miss the ending as I was posting while watching. You're right. The letter was important and so in retrospect was the built-up. My apologies.
digdug2
Member
Hey there, quarantino neighborino, have you seen anyone nearby infected with cordiddlyceps?
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Another fantastic episode. People don't get the significance of this episode was not only to showcase the world beyond the main characters, to establish the world, but also to showcase the origin of the radio music code, and it further added weight to the loss of Tess. This was a fantastic episode. Show has been firing on all cylinders for me.
Raonak
Banned
Wait til you realise that TLOU had DLC which was primarily about a gay romance too
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Bullshit. I know plenty of gay men who say "ewww that's gross" out loud with the same reaction to the woman's vagina. That does not mean they're "heterophobe." Boobs on the other hand, all men even gay men love boobs. Must be a breast feeding thing.
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digdug2
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. The way you're talking is as if The Last of Us is a story about the struggles of everyone, not just Joel and Ellie. It's impossible to fathom that there were other people, each with their own trials and tribulations, hopes, fears, doubts, etc. What a waste of time to explore those.Wait til you realise that TLOU had DLC which was primarily about a gay romance too
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Wrong. Low IQ.
The difference there was it being well done, also actually adding to the source material since the moment with Riley is a core motivation to her character.Wait til you realise that TLOU had DLC which was primarily about a gay romance too
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John_Ryder
Member
Really hard to watch episode.
digdug2
Member
Agreed. It was sad to watch Frank wither away due to illness.
smart_brazileiro
Banned
It wasn't but nice try.Wait til you realise that TLOU had DLC which was primarily about a gay romance too
At least we don't ban the conversation or IP's from discussion.
Healthy discussion is important. Who knows- you may even plant a seed of change or offer some perspective.
kyliethicc
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geary
Member
Same feeling...As a zombie apocalyptical tv show, I think TWD S1E1-3 were better than these 3 episodes.
Corpsepyre
Banned
You know you've done something right when THIS guy likes an episode centered on big gay guys, heh.
digdug2
Member
I can't believe that they banned all talk of Hogwart's Legacy. That's some totalitarian bullshit. What's next, holding a HP book burning convention over Zoom?
Well, you have a show made after a game that copied a show.
Twd was/is genre defining up until season 7.
Sometime around then, it's when they (retard producers) decided to split the creative minds into a hundred spin offs, and it all goes to hell in every possible way: story, production values, actors, etc.
However, everything that is remotely interesting in the Tlou games, like that story driving scene of part 2 for example, is more or less inspired from Twd, that's not even up for debate.
Tlou show would do best in distancing itself as much as possible (not completely of course) from the game's story. Ep.3 proves that this is the way do form some kind of identity, and not just be a Twd clone.
rofif
Banned
My father always watched games I play and after I moved out, I keep sending him lists of games to watch on yt. So obviously he loved tlou1 and 2.
He calls me each week to discuss the last episode.
Even he. An old polish guy (polish people are intolerant assholes, look withcher)... and he goes on how amazing of an episode it was. Now that is something.
My old father is more tolerant than some asshats here lol
He calls me each week to discuss the last episode.
Even he. An old polish guy (polish people are intolerant assholes, look withcher)... and he goes on how amazing of an episode it was. Now that is something.
My old father is more tolerant than some asshats here lol
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Oddvintagechap
Member
Im so hooked at reading all this crying.
mitchman
Gold Member
It's more likely MS, the symtoms are much closer to that. MS patients do end up in wheel chair and with limited mobility. It's not ALS, you lose speech first with ALS.
The Fartist
Gold Member
Tell us you're gay without telling us you're gay.
mitchman
Gold Member
What? He most certainly was gay in the game, did you even play it? Do you remember the magazines?