Sorry but I don't buy it, Forza was said from the get-go that it's in early development stage, but what was shown was one of the best looking presentation of the show, or entire upcoming next-gen lineup so far for the matter, while MS was hyping Halo like it's second coming of Jesus, they knew what they were about to show to the world, and now they're trying to do damage control. RT will obviously boost the visuals, but how better can it get thanks to better reflections, shadows or GI when everything is so flat and with no PBR? It is what it is, the series where never about pushing graphical boundaries to begin with, but all about the gameplay, and that part is top notch.