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GT Sport currently has 8.2 million users
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DynamiteCop!
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I don't really care about anything you're saying, it's common sense. You need multiple accounts to play local couch co-op, other people within a household will play on one system via separate accounts.
If ANYTHING has 8.2 million users (Sony's official number) it has no doubt sold in the region of ~4-5 million units.
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ethomaz
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It is not common sense lol
Last UK know sales were 90%of the profiles.
Last JP know sales were 80% of the profiles.
US is probably close to UK than JP.
And local multiplayer account doesn’t become a user/profile... try to find ethomaz_br there lol my nephews uses that account to play local with the second controller.
BTW Sony/PD official numbers of profiles as Feb 12, 2020 is 9,481,623.
8.2m is official from 2019 way before holidays.
Facts > What you think.
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DynamiteCop!
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It's not common sense for you because you have none.
Cool, thank you.
So I checked a couple of users and it seems that beta players do not have GT Sports added to their accounts.
- My Profile | Community | Gran Turismo Sport - gran-turismo.com
Check out 's Game Stats, Life Log, Achievements and Gallery from the
www.gran-turismo.com
PlayStation® Official Site: Consoles, Games, Accessories & More
Explore the new generation PlayStation 4 and PS5 consoles - experience immersive gaming with thousands of hit games in every genre to rewrite the rules for what a PlayStation console can do.
my.playstation.com
- My Profile | Community | Gran Turismo Sport - gran-turismo.com
Check out 's Game Stats, Life Log, Achievements and Gallery from the
www.gran-turismo.com
PlayStation® Official Site: Consoles, Games, Accessories & More
Explore the new generation PlayStation 4 and PS5 consoles - experience immersive gaming with thousands of hit games in every genre to rewrite the rules for what a PlayStation console can do.
my.playstation.com
Which means my estimate is off by ~1M, not 0.4M. Good to know (and still more accurate than the official number).
Another thing: if https://www.kudosprime.com/gts/stats.php?profile=search doesn't find some GT Sport players - e.g. https://my.playstation.com/profile/DA_Lubl/trophies/details/NPWR09921_00/default - does it mean they have changed their online IDs?
But the real question is: the user list on gran-turismo.com - are we 100% sure it's a full list that includes all PSN players? (Including family accounts and stuff)
One thing for sure, the official number is off by a huge margin.
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ethomaz
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It is not common sense why we have data showing the opposite lol
Profile data are public.
Plus your false claim about local accounts lol
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DynamiteCop!
Banned
Yes, the OFFICIAL number is off by a huge margin.... OR the methods in which third party profile trackers derive their information is wrong...Cool, thank you.
So I checked a couple of users and it seems that beta players DO NOT have GT Sports added to their accounts.
- My Profile | Community | Gran Turismo Sport - gran-turismo.com
Check out 's Game Stats, Life Log, Achievements and Gallery from thePlayStation® Official Site: Consoles, Games, Accessories & More
Explore the new generation PlayStation 4 and PS5 consoles - experience immersive gaming with thousands of hit games in every genre to rewrite the rules for what a PlayStation console can do.
- My Profile | Community | Gran Turismo Sport - gran-turismo.com
Check out 's Game Stats, Life Log, Achievements and Gallery from thePlayStation® Official Site: Consoles, Games, Accessories & More
Explore the new generation PlayStation 4 and PS5 consoles - experience immersive gaming with thousands of hit games in every genre to rewrite the rules for what a PlayStation console can do.
Which means my estimate is off by ~1M, not 0.4M. Good to know (and still more accurate than the official number).
Another thing: if https://www.kudosprime.com/gts/stats.php?profile=search doesn't find some GT Sport players - i..e. https://my.playstation.com/profile/DA_Lubl/trophies/details/NPWR09921_00/default - does it mean they have changed their online IDs?
But the real question is: the user list on gran-turismo.com - are we 100% sure it's a full list that includes all PSN players? (Including family accounts and stuff)
One thing for sure, the official number is off by a huge margin.
I wonder which is accurate...
ethomaz
Banned
The slide data is old from mid 2019.Yes, the OFFICIAL number is off by a huge margin.... OR the methods in which third party profile trackers derive their information is wrong...
I wonder which is accurate...
The Gran-turismo.com has all up to date official info you want.
Nobody is using data from 3rd-party estimating trackers.
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ethomaz
Banned
Kudosprime site has a big issue.Cool, thank you.
So I checked a couple of users and it seems that beta players do not have GT Sports added to their accounts.
- My Profile | Community | Gran Turismo Sport - gran-turismo.com
Check out 's Game Stats, Life Log, Achievements and Gallery from thePlayStation® Official Site: Consoles, Games, Accessories & More
Explore the new generation PlayStation 4 and PS5 consoles - experience immersive gaming with thousands of hit games in every genre to rewrite the rules for what a PlayStation console can do.
- My Profile | Community | Gran Turismo Sport - gran-turismo.com
Check out 's Game Stats, Life Log, Achievements and Gallery from thePlayStation® Official Site: Consoles, Games, Accessories & More
Explore the new generation PlayStation 4 and PS5 consoles - experience immersive gaming with thousands of hit games in every genre to rewrite the rules for what a PlayStation console can do.
Which means my estimate is off by ~1M, not 0.4M. Good to know (and still more accurate than the official number).
Another thing: if https://www.kudosprime.com/gts/stats.php?profile=search doesn't find some GT Sport players - e.g. https://my.playstation.com/profile/DA_Lubl/trophies/details/NPWR09921_00/default - does it mean they have changed their online IDs?
But the real question is: the user list on gran-turismo.com - are we 100% sure it's a full list that includes all PSN players? (Including family accounts and stuff)
One thing for sure, the official number is off by a huge margin.
“Statistics based on 96,584 players representing 9,658,400 players (9,302,700 of the final game) on 2020-02-10.Countries below 0.5% are not shown.”
They track 96k profiles data and extrapolate to fill all the data for 9.4m profiles.
You won’t find PSN IDs outside these 96k in their database but I believe now you tried to search it the site will extract the data at night so tomorrow that profile will be part of his pool of data.
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The thing is, the third party estimates and the official numbers have matched before (well, more or less, in my case).
So whether these methods suddenly broke all at once, or the GT Sport developer had a wrong slide.
ethomaz
Banned
I’m updating my first 6 million profiles to see if there is something different because I know PD suspended some duplicated accounts last year.
The most probably is that the 8.2m are old data from last year before holidays.
It is funny some users (the usual xbots Afro and Dynamite) here fighting saying one data is official and the other not when both are official and even public to anybody check.
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GenericUser
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I love you
Tripolygon
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Both numbers can be accurate. The slide can be accurate as of a certain point in 2019 when it was made or updated whileYes, the OFFICIAL number is off by a huge margin.... OR the methods in which third party profile trackers derive their information is wrong...
I wonder which is accurate...
ethomaz
can be accurate as of today. I believe ethomaz has the up to date figure because his data is gotten from polyphony servers that you can check yourself. And he has been keeping track of it for a long time. For example, even Sony doesn't know the accurate number of PS2 they sold, they were corrected by a 3rd party over Twitter. They sold more than they originally thought.
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Afro Republican
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Lol, may need to take a breather man. Calm down.
ethomaz
Banned
I just mistook the threads... I already copied to the right one.
DynamiteCop!
Banned
A broken clock is also right twice a day. The point is the intersections of numbers does not make something accurate. This isn't Sony the company stating anything, this is Polyphony Digital stating it, the subsidiary, the one who directly has access to these specific figures in real time.Both numbers can be accurate. The slide can be accurate as of a certain point in 2019 when it was made or updated while
In terms of your follow up statement I very much doubt the validity of that, they know precisely what they've sold in terms of console units. What is more likely is that an individual from Sony wasn't aware of the exact figure, and was therefore corrected.
policestationx
Banned
True.
Remember when GOW 2018 users at 9.1 million while the game sold at ~5-6 million copies in August 2018.
ethomaz
Banned
Broke clock?
it is the official Gran-turusmo.com data lol
That your big issue... you fight against public official data that anybody can check.
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ethomaz
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Source?
Or are you talking about the estimate based in trophy infochart where people did maths wrong?
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it_wasn't_me
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+9 million players in 4 months, +5 million copies in 1 month, NOT in 4 months
God of War surpasses 9 million players
Santa Monica Studio has indirectly revealed that around 9,1 million users have played God of War by sharing the (impressive) number of Platinum Trophies unlocked in a new infographic. The original link seems to be dead right now, but the infographic can be seen here. As it was quickly calculated...
www.resetera.com
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policestationx
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Bloodborne 13.2M users and 4.2M copies sold
Detroid 10M users and 3M copies sold
HZD 18M users and 10M copies sold.
It's safe to say users number is just a PR talk
Detroid 10M users and 3M copies sold
HZD 18M users and 10M copies sold.
It's safe to say users number is just a PR talk
ethomaz
Banned
This 9.1 million is a estimate based in a info graph with trophies with a big margin of error... like millions.+9 million players in 4 months, +5 million copies in 1 month, NOT in 4 months
God of War surpasses 9 million players
Santa Monica Studio has indirectly revealed that around 9,1 million users have played God of War by sharing the (impressive) number of Platinum Trophies unlocked in a new infographic. The original link seems to be dead right now, but the infographic can be seen here. As it was quickly calculated...
The same info graph showed number of GTS Platinum too and a site made a estimate over 8 million players... I corrected them when it was around 6 million at time.
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ethomaz
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Source?Bloodborne 13.2M users and 4.2M copies sold
Detroid 10M users and 3M copies sold
HZD 18M users and 10M copies sold.
It's safe to say users number is just a PR talk
You are just spreading bullshit.
These number were never talked in PR LOL
it_wasn't_me
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Just saying that GOW has sold in +5 mil. copies in 1 month, not in 4 months.
Bloodborne 13.2M users and 4.2M copies sold
Detroid 10M users and 3M copies sold
HZD 18M users and 10M copies sold.
It's safe to say users number is just a PR talk
Did some google research for Detroit, Bloodborne and Horizon. Didn't find any PR statement about player numbers which policestationX had provided. Looks like talk out of his ass
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policestationx
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ethomaz
Banned
I found the source myself...
These 9.1m for GoW come from the same source as that GTS “estimate”.
www.gtplanet.net
At time GTS had about 6.8m players but the “estimate” claimed 7.5m based in that picture:
That trophy at time had 0.1% on PSN... so the estimates though 0.1% is 7545 players so 100% is 7.54m players.
The issue lies that 0.1% is a rounded number... it can be anything from 0.06% to 0.14%.
The actual % of the trophy was 0.11% that gives you 6.8m players marching Gran-turismo.com official data.
So the 0.01% difference was about 700k profiles difference in the final number.
GoW 9.1m used the same high margin of error way to find it.
These 9.1m for GoW come from the same source as that GTS “estimate”.
GT Sport Has Around 7.5 Million Players, According to "My PS4 Life" Feature
If you're active on social media, you might have seen a new project from Sony doing the rounds. "My PS4 Life" is a community feature that shows off individual players' gaming skills in the PS4's five years on sale. The webpage creates a personalized video for each user (you can make your own here
www.gtplanet.net
At time GTS had about 6.8m players but the “estimate” claimed 7.5m based in that picture:
That trophy at time had 0.1% on PSN... so the estimates though 0.1% is 7545 players so 100% is 7.54m players.
The issue lies that 0.1% is a rounded number... it can be anything from 0.06% to 0.14%.
The actual % of the trophy was 0.11% that gives you 6.8m players marching Gran-turismo.com official data.
So the 0.01% difference was about 700k profiles difference in the final number.
GoW 9.1m used the same high margin of error way to find it.
ethomaz
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policestationx
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I knew Shuhei Yoshida is from Sony PlayStation.Do you know that is VGC guesstimates, no?
ethomaz
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He was tagged and said thanks.
The docs says the data is from VGC... it is right there at the bottom of the picture lol
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policestationx
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Blame him not me.
DynamiteCop!
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For once you and I are in agreement, this is from VGChartz, it should be discarded in its entirety.
ethomaz
Banned
To be fair I checked at time of the tweet Gran-turismo.com had around 7.5m profiles for GTS.
Sales were probably around 6 million... or at least 2 million less than VGC guesstimates.
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it_wasn't_me
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VGChartz numbers. You just confirmed that you spew shit ( as usual ).
Yes, you. Do some research.
VertigoOA
Banned
Nebulous stats. Without API data it’s difficult to get a good picture.
I do suspect because of the game’s core competitive design that active player retention is most likely the greatest of its competitors and maybe even series high.
Still expecting to see the game carried into next gen and maybe even a pc release. Pretty much think gaas GT is here to stay.
I do suspect because of the game’s core competitive design that active player retention is most likely the greatest of its competitors and maybe even series high.
Still expecting to see the game carried into next gen and maybe even a pc release. Pretty much think gaas GT is here to stay.
policestationx
Banned
Last know figure.
GTS - 3.3M copies - 8.2M users
MK8 - 31M copies - ?? Users
Forza 7 - ?? copies - 10M users
Forza Horizon 4 - ?? copies - 12M users
Updated to OP.
GTS - 3.3M copies - 8.2M users
MK8 - 31M copies - ?? Users
Forza 7 - ?? copies - 10M users
Forza Horizon 4 - ?? copies - 12M users
Updated to OP.
ethomaz
Banned
GTS copies is > 3.3m from Sony (depend how many units was shipped).
GTS users is ~9.4m official from GT s
MS from what I remember never give Forza Motorsport 7 number of users... 10 million was Forza Horizon 4.
Remember both FM7 and FH4 have free demo and trial... the others not.
FH4 and MK8 are unrelated to this thread too... they are arcade while the thread is a sim racing.
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Tripolygon
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What broken clock? The numbers are there for everyone to see. Polyphony is not obligated to talk about up to date numbers to the second. They have internal milestones they go by. These games sell everyday to point where it still charts from time to time in some regions.
And no these companies don't know exactly how many devices are sold to consumers. They rely on sales trackers like NPD etc. I can't be arsed to go searching for a tweet. Sony has used figures from VGChartz before even though they are notorious for being way off by couple of millions.
Tripolygon
Banned
This is not something i say lightly to people but you are so fucking dumb.Bloodborne 13.2M users and 4.2M copies sold
Detroid 10M users and 3M copies sold
HZD 18M users and 10M copies sold.
It's safe to say users number is just a PR talk
The 18 million users for Horizon you're talking about is actually 18 million thunderjaw kills. It is safe to say everything you just typed is made up or a number you are clearly mistaken about. I seldom advocate for thread privileges to be removed but you are actively making this forum worse with each thread you make.
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Klayzer
Member
Obvious alt of a banned X-follower is my guess. They all usually go by the same gameplan typically. Any gossip or article that is perceived as a negative for Sony, they're first to post a topic.
These 9.1m for GoW come from the same source as that GTS “estimate”.
At time GTS had about 6.8m players but the “estimate” claimed 7.5m based in that picture:GT Sport Has Around 7.5 Million Players, According to "My PS4 Life" Feature
If you're active on social media, you might have seen a new project from Sony doing the rounds. "My PS4 Life" is a community feature that shows off individual players' gaming skills in the PS4's five years on sale. The webpage creates a personalized video for each user (you can make your own here
That trophy at time had 0.1% on PSN... so the estimates though 0.1% is 7545 players so 100% is 7.54m players.
You missed the follow-ups, most figures became way more accurate.
4,129,147 / 62.6% = 6.6M players as of mid-November 2018.
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it_wasn't_me
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Forza 7 NEVER had that amount of users. NEVER!
Wtf you trying here, really? I mean, WTF Xbox fans are smoking all these years?
Yep.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
what a fucking weird thing to say,
there are many things wrong with this game.
ONLINE HURRDURR
but not it needing to be more arcade-like.
it_wasn't_me
Banned
Anyway, Nations Cup. What a finish in last race. Great pit strategy by Miyazono. LOL
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Weird OP as I am not sure what it is trying to discuss... beyond trying to put down a game or show “concern” for it. I get user fan of X upset about Y concerning X, I get fan of Z happy and gloating about W regarding Z...
The non-fan of GT posting the n-th thread trying to paint GTS as a failure feels odd at best, console warrior-ish at worst....
The non-fan of GT posting the n-th thread trying to paint GTS as a failure feels odd at best, console warrior-ish at worst...
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ethomaz
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policestationx
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Updated in OP
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