Indeed. Of course it also ignores every future Xbox game will be on PC yet somehow the XSS is the lowest common denominator not low end PCs. It's pretty cool how that works.Is your argument that by being the lowest it will "hold back" the gen no matter what, even if the difference was hypothetically like .01 HZ? Then sure technically you could be correct, but the Series S will not have any real meaningful detriment to next gen game design, so saying it will "hold back" the gen seems disingenuous and kind of fanboyish.
Yup, if games have to work on dog shit PCs (like my GPU) then that's the lowest.Indeed. Of course it also ignores every future Xbox game will be on PC yet somehow the XSS is the lowest common denominator not low end PCs. It's pretty cool how that works.
On topic it's great to see all major businesses see the benefits of cross gen development. MS even took extra steps to ensure those cross gen games have an easier time getting the power of their box without having to code specifically for it.
PS5 cpu is faster with SMT mode.The series S cpu is faster than PS5. Is PS5 now holding back this gen?
I think they are trying to hype them up because they dissolved their Japan Studio branch.The fact sonys trying to spin asobi as a new studio, when they’ve been an established studio for years now, says a lot.
I am hoping for the latter. LOL.Not sure how I feel about this.
Surely though, unless they are fully prepared to develop 2 distinct games, then there is some sort of compromise. Either the PS5 version is held back or the PS4 version runs like shit.
Team Asobi was part of Japan Studio. They are going to run as a solo studio now.The fact sonys trying to spin asobi as a new studio, when they’ve been an established studio for years now, says a lot.
What does it say?The fact sonys trying to spin asobi as a new studio, when they’ve been an established studio for years now, says a lot.
It IS a new studio, different studio name and team, the old one is no more.The fact sonys trying to spin asobi as a new studio, when they’ve been an established studio for years now, says a lot.
Which big banner said PS5 Exclusive? I call bullshit because I've been following GOW Ragnorok news religiously and even was predicting it's DLC:No one took that out of context. There is a video with the banner "PS5 Exclusive" that features God of War in it. There is no way around it. But Jim Ryan knew what he was implying anyway, so most would hold him to that statement, regardless.
And yes, they also lied about the release date. They didn't suddenly realize the game wasn't going to make the 2021 release date. Everyone and their mother knew the moment it was announced. It's totally lame, but feel free to defend it.
Even on the island, while pretty, was empty as hellFFS! I really wanted to see what this team could do with a PS5 and it's controller by making it solely for that system. GOW PS4 did not wow me the way GOW3 did on the PS3. The open world felt a bit empty with repetitive enemies.
When it comes to Horizon we don't know how that might've looked and played as a PS5 exclusive.
Is it me or does it feel like all hype and momentum Sony had just vanished? Is that hyperbolic to say, perhaps? Anybody else feel this way?
Next God of War being on PS4 eliminates my only real reason to get a PS5, thanks Jimbo!
I think they are trying to hype them up because they dissolved their Japan Studio branch.
It IS a new studio, different studio name and team, the old one is no more.
What does it say?
I've been telling you these since the game was announced. It was pretty obvious really. If they want to launch God of War this year or next year it would have to be cross gen. Proper PS5 Sony exclusives will release 2023 at the earliest.I don’t care about GT7 but GoW? Fuck that noise…
Horizon looks like a PS4 game with better lightingI like the "cross gen isn't so bad, just pare it down like its done on PCs" commentary now that Horizon was shown with great visuals + this news, as if that isn't all of us have been saying regarding the Series S, except the Series S has the benefits of near identical CPU and SSD as Series X, unlike the slow HDD and shit CPU of last gen.
and? it still looks greatHorizon looks like a PS4 game with better lighting
This.
Yes and no.
When Sony stops supporting PS4 Microsoft will still have to support XSS
technically, Japan Studio is no more, i personally consider it a new studio.They didn't dissolve Japan Studio, they restructured it.
They downsized Japan Studio and refocused its internal development staff around Team Asobi, which was one of the internal teams inside Japan Studio. They already were using this name for their two games, the Astro games.
The 2nd party management now is going to be handled globally from XDEV, the ones who until now handled the European 2nd party games and were way more successful than Japan Studio with the Japanese games and Santa Monica with the American games.
So according to both Hermen and Ryan they will continue releasing 2nd party Japanese games but being handled from another office.
So no, maybe they now are getting a new office because they are going to be less people, but it isn't a new studio.
LmaoXSS is a current gen console. PS4 is not.
This.
It looks great, but if Horizon was built for PS5, it would look much better. Perhaps Ray tracing, better animations, higher fps to name a fewConsidering how good Horizon looks for PS5, I aint even mad.
lol comments like these are so funny...Very much so. Sony tried to play Microsoft's honesty for PR points and let them take the brunt. 20 pages in and the fanboys are still trying to find the spin angle.
All I know is that the reasons for me wanting a PS5 are now zero. And I'm guessing Sony knew that would happen, and tried to keep it quiet for as long as possible.
Thers already a good amount of Crossgen games that use Ray Tracing on PS5. Miles Morales for example use Ray Tracing on PS5. Demon's Souls is a PS5 game only and dosent use ray tracing.It looks great, but if Horizon was built for PS5, it would look much better. Perhaps Ray tracing, better animations, higher fps to name a few
Team Asobi is a Japan Studio team.technically, Japan Studio is no more, i personally consider it a new studio.
Team Asobi became a solo studio. There are no longer a team inside Japan Studio.Team Asobi is a Japan Studio team.
thats why i say technically, most japan studio staff is no more.Team Asobi is a Japan Studio team.
It’s pathetic, the bias gets tiring and yeah Microsoft does deserve a lot of criticism but in the long run they have done really good and it’s why I have both systems of Xbox but in all it’s annoying.I never paid attention before, but I've noticed quite a few instances where if the situation was reversed, there will be a huge blowout against xbox, but Sony kind of gets a pass for some reason.. most of the "media" do that as well, not sure why tho. Must be something to do with market share and clicks or whatever.
Like for example if Microsoft said they would offer expandable storage, and 6 months into production they didn't have it, there will be 100s of articles and memes about it lol
Playing at the highest quality isn't worth the extra $400/$500 for just the one game.I guess playing at the highest quality the game can be at on day 1 of its release isn't enough of a reason? That is a pedestrian move.
How long has Phil been steering the ship? The man practically saved Xbox. He will deliver again also, no doubt.Well that tends to happen when you release a lot of high quality and highly rated games over several generations.
Whether it's fair or not Microsoft are judged based on their output. Phil saying nice things and doing pro-consumer stuff can only take Xbox so far in the eyes of many. They need to start delivering amazing games to get people to stop being hypercritical of them.
It's the same way Nintendo gets a free pass for almost anything they do, they deliver incredible games. There's no hidden agenda in the gaming media against Microsoft. I can guarantee you when they start delivering GOTY caliber games all this negative talk surrounding Xbox will fade away.
So for those who already have a PS4 they get to keep it for longer? Sounds good in my book. I might even go an grab a second hand PS4 just to play some games.
Good news!
I’m fine with Cross gen too, I just hate that Sony was trying to avoid bad PR then. But now it’s actually worse because of that deceit.I'm ok with cross generation titles tbh
To each his own. I paid 1800 for a 3090 just to play Cyberpunk 2077 at its highest setting. As a bonus, i'm able to play other games at extremely high fidelity. No regrets.Playing at the highest quality isn't worth the extra $400/$500 for just the one game.
Yes, Sony said they shut down the Japan Studio part dedicated to handle 2nd party games, because they will continue publishing 2nd party games but globally from XDEV, and downsized their internal development part firing some people and putting the other ones into Team Asobi, their most successful internal development team.thats why i say technically, most japan studio staff is no more.
Everybody knows that.
Colin Moriarity called them out on it immediately today. He runs the biggest Sony fan podcast. Imran Khan made fun of the i believe in generations thing as well.It’s pathetic, the bias gets tiring and yeah Microsoft does deserve a lot of criticism but in the long run they have done really good and it’s why I have both systems of Xbox but in all it’s annoying.
The fact sonys trying to spin asobi as a new studio, when they’ve been an established studio for years now, says a lot.