Bundles are the enemy. They killed my dog and gave me covid.
you keep repeating tlou1 gets bundled and keep ignoring that tlou2 getting bundled aswell
how about:
According to ZhugeEX, Uncharted 4 bundles were "significantly more than the game sold standalone"
Uncharted 4 would be higher than God of War if bundles were counted.
Uncharted 4 bundles were significantly over 3 million units in the US.
So I would say it's fair to say that 8.7 million copies sold in the US by December 2016 were mostly bundles. This is why bundles are brought up. Even Mat Piscatella had to explain why Uncharted and The Last of Us were not in the top 5, even though they sold more copies.
The Last of Us Part II surpassed Horizon Zero Dawn in July to become the Third Best-Selling PlayStation 4 Exclusive of all time.
No one is calling Uncharted 4 a flop since it made less money than Horizon Zero Dawn, which was a brand new IP.
Also, it's unlikely that The Last of Us would've surpassed God of War in sales, but we know it wouldn't have reached 10 million copies sold in 13 months or 19.5 million in 3 years without bundles.
Units sold are not an indicator of a game's success. I'm sure if The Last of Us was bundled similar to other Sony titles, they would've announced sales figures earlier. So far, The Last of Us Part II was one of the least bundled exclusives from Sony during the PS4 era.
It is doing at least equal to the first games on PS4.
It already is 60fps.
"Everyone" LMAO. You mean you and the other troll in here. The only people who think it tanked or underperformed are the haters like you that can't deal with the fact that Joel got killed. I'd like to see you tell someone from PlayStation face to face that it tanked and underperformed but we both know you would be too cowardly to do that because they would correct you so fast and make you look like the uneducated moron you are.
To be fair, we can't ever truly tell if it underperformed or not as long as Sony don't tell us what sales projections it had and how much it cost to develop and market the game.
Considering it sold 4+ million copies at full price including all the various editions it had I'm sure it turned a profit in those first few days. The game was also placing high in the sales charts even in the months after launch so it continued to sell well at full price. By July 2020 it was also the third highest grossing PlayStation game of all time. You telling me that the game that made Sony the third highest amount of dollars by just its second month on sale was a disappointment to them? Nah.
Stating the obvious stats ( tlou1 +20m and tlou 2 +10m)
Again, we don't know what it cost to develop and market the game which had delays. I'll gladly assume it wasn't a financial flop, but that's a far cray from it being a smash hit that exceeded all sales expectations.
Your stats are about as dumb as someone saying the PS5 is a flop because after two years it's only at 20 million where the PS4 is at 116 million. Man what a disappointment the PS5 is huh. This is exactly why I said you would be laughed out of the room so fast by people in the business. Probably why you're a nobody on the internet crying because a game's story wasn't the happy fairy tale that you wanted.
TLOU2 didn't have any more delays than any other first party game. Most of the big PS4 games had a delay or two before they finally launched. The game wasn't marketed any more than God of War or Horizon was either. In fact it might have even been less because it was during COVID when they couldn't do all the usual marketing things that they normally would. As I said, there is plenty of data showing the game was a financial smash hit and none that shows otherwise.
Thats not how it works ffs game sales are not the same as console sales a very wrong and poor comparison
I think it might be fanboys on both sides though. Some Sony fanboys are still butthurt that ND killed Joel. They want tlou2 to do poorly because of that.
Only thing that matters to the Sony suits if it met expectations(or exceeded them), until a Sony rep says it did, there will be room for doubt.
Eh, there's quite a time gap between 24 and 14 months.
No need to pile on but yeah those numbers aren't great. It DID under perform tlou1. Can't really argue that
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Tlou2 should not be on par with tlou1. It should have grown the fanbase. It didn't. Not sure how you can say that isn't under performing. I'm sure ND expected much higher numbers.
That's not high praise.
You're so dumb you couldn't even understand the point. You are a waste of time. The point was is you never compare two things when one has been out years longer than the other. Come back when TLOU2 is six years old and let us know how it compares to TLOU1's numbers then. Until then you have no case at all. BTW if game sales disappear after a year then why is TLOU2 still charting in the top 10 on PlayStation Store sales charts even in 2022? I won't be giving you any more of my time. I hope whatever Naughty Dog does next pisses you off just as much as TLOU2 did because it's hilarious how butt hurt you are over this game.
Im not buthurt at all. The only one who buthurt ( judging by the way they type) is you.
Spiderman was crap ip ( during activision days) before insomniac tookover spiderman was never this huge seller. Meanwhile Naughty Dog was sony biggest #1 studio and TLOU 1 was sony highest selling first party game
How can you say it's false and that people don't buy a bundle, and in the next sentence say that some sure do?
Isn’t that Spiderman figure of 33 million the sales of the PS4 Spiderman plus Miles Morales and all of their respective versions combined?
I dont know the precise details but whatever it is that is a huge achievement and catapult insomniac into new stratosphere, no insomniac game can even get close to that number before
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I thought bundles don't matter though?
That airbus guy is a dumbass. A troll who says the dumbest stuff just to get a reaction. Comparing TLOU to Spider-Man now when Spider-Man as a name is on a whole other level.
They are making a remake because they have a TV show coming up and everyone in the industry saw what that did for The Witcher 3's sales. The first game doesn't hold up well compared to TLOU2 so they want people who are coming in new to be able to enjoy the best possible version of that game. That's all there is to it.
