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Yes we know this is true it's been stated to you many times in this thread.Nobody even knows if that's true.
Even if that is 100% true,
Not sure why you continue to troll saying it's not known?
Yes we know this is true it's been stated to you many times in this thread.Nobody even knows if that's true.
Even if that is 100% true,
That $70 copy of MLB Show on PS5 is gonna be in the bargain bin by the end of the year. They don't need Game Pass to devalue the value of that oneGamepass isn't free, it's an effect that by diluting the cost during multiple subs makes it seem (and ultimately it is) much cheaper. If the only weapon who people have to defend the 140€ which you need to play outriders and mbl on ps5 (in a period where the people has economic problems due to the covid) against 9.99 of the xsx is the devaluation of the perceived value of the games. Honestly, I guess nobody genuinely gives a fuck about devaluing the perceived value of video games hahaha
Better than none like yours, btw why people are acting as if buying the game is the same as renting (Yup thats gamepass for you in third party games)? The only ones not making money from this deal its ms, now thats ironictwo jobs?
you answer was totally stupid and ridiculous accept itBetter than none like yours
There's day one ps5 games with ps+ ..they can put this also for balancing the offersNot sure why its such a bad look for Sony and PlayStation owners.
Play Station owners knew they were going to have to buy if they wanted to play it any way.
It's not like Sony has ever launched any 1st party game Day 1 on their service.
Nothing has changed for Play Station gamers.
Still get the game day 1.
At the normal price of all 1st party Sony games that you already knew you were going to pay before the PS5 launched of $70.
Not sure why people are making a big deal out of nothing. You all knew that PS exclusives on day 1 were going to cost $70 and if you still bought a PS5 (especially the DE) then you were ok with that.
in fact, at this point this could be the only thing they could do not make pass PlayStation users as second-class citizensThere's day one ps5 games with ps+ ..they can put this also for balancing the offers
It is £14.99 if you want online and some DLC, but keep deflecting that the fee you pay MS is not the same thing as the money that was going to the publisher/game developer before ?people shouting “cool, I do not have to buy game A” and “no GPU does not hurt game sales” is still hilarious and the answer you gave was essentially… nothing, you just ignored it)… bonus points for using the COVID pandemic economic struggle as a console war shield…Gamepass isn't free, it's an effect that by diluting the cost during multiple subs makes it seem (and ultimately it is) much cheaper. If the only weapon who people have to defend the 140€ which you need to play outriders and mbl on ps5 (in a period where the people has economic problems due to the covid) against 9.99 of the xsx is the devaluation of the perceived value of the games. Honestly, I guess nobody genuinely gives a fuck about devaluing the perceived value of video games hahaha
That worked for the last generation because MS first party offering wasn't as strong... probably not gonna be the case this gen considering all the first party games MS has already announced even before they bought Bethesda (Forza Motosport, Avowed, Hellbade 2, Sate of Decay 3, Fable, Everwild) etc.Personally I think Sony has been in that position for quite some time already. Same thing with Nintendo. Seems to do alright anyway.
Not really. Sony is not Nintendo.Personally I think Sony has been in that position for quite some time already. Same thing with Nintendo. Seems to do alright anyway.
You forgot GAAS playerPaul Tassi, the fake reviewer, PS hater, writing about Playstation. very professional what an unexpected article
That changes it then?Paul Tassi, the fake reviewer, PS hater, writing about Playstation. very professional what an unexpected article
This guy is absolutely destroying PS5 and I'm only 13 min into his 19 min video.
Lots of criticisms nobody ever brings up here. That part about the copying phase that takes forever is insane. You didn't even get lethargic patch systems like that on 360.
Again, people are not understanding what is happening. Ms doesn't need to kill playstation. Every gen we have seen a merciless fight to contend for those ~ 180/200 million users who buy consoles every gen. Things have changed, at least for Microsoft, releasing on Windows already has a user base since the launch of the console that will inevitably increase the software sales. They no longer have to play dirty to grab console users when Steam alone grants them 120+ million users. All they will continue to do is to make gamepass more and more attractive and to pass the competition, as is happening in this case with the ps5 , as a highly unfavorable choice, and honestly looking at outriders and mbl it is objective isLooking more and more like PS2 vs Xbox gen.
- MS and friends control the narrative.
- Xbox minor victories (MGS2s, price cuts, power gap) were treated as something more important than it really were.
-Top Xbox games (Morrowind, Halo, KOTOR, Panzer Dragon, Jade Empire) were supposed to kill the PS2.
-At the end, the PS2 was unstoppable due to network effects (demand-side economies of scale) and nonstop barrage of good games.
-PS5 widens the gap faster than the PS4; MM is the first system seller of the ninth gen, accompanied by DS, AP and PS+C; PS4 got TLOU, GOT and free games like HOR and RC, software sales and services are growing at a record pace ...
No wonder MS wants to remove Ryan by targeting useful idiots within the PS community.
List WARZ!MM is the first system seller of the ninth gen, accompanied by DS, AP and PS+C; PS4 got TLOU, GOT and free games like HOR and RC, software sales and services are growing at a record pace ...
Again, people are not understanding what is happening. Ms doesn't need to kill playstation. Every gen we have seen a merciless fight to contend for those ~ 180/200 million users who buy consoles every gen. Things have changed, at least for Microsoft, releasing on Windows already has a user base since the launch of the console that will inevitably increase the software sales. They no longer have to play dirty to grab console users when Steam alone grants them 120+ million users. All they will continue to do is to make gamepass more and more attractive and to pass the competition, as is happening in this case with the ps5 , as a highly unfavorable choice, and honestly looking at outriders and mbl it is objective is
Yeah but even if Sony only put out 5 exclusive system sellers over the generation, 5 potential GOTY games - It still takes a lot to simply skip them. There is no good alternative solution here that will end with a lost sale. All we can do is wait a bit, maybe jump in later for a Slim/Pro/BigSSD revision, in the end they’ll still end with another sold console.That worked for the last generation because MS first party offering wasn't as strong... probably not gonna be the case this gen considering all the first party games MS has already announced even before they bought Bethesda (Forza Motosport, Avowed, Hellbade 2, Sate of Decay 3, Fable, Everwild) etc.
I don't think PSVR2 will do much in a world where you can get a Quest 2 for $300. And by then we might even have a Quest 3.Also, PSVR2 is coming too, could be the thing that really makes Playstation stand out from Xbox and Gamepass.
Does quest work with PlayStation?I don't think PSVR2 will do much in a world where you can get a Quest 2 for $300. And by then we might even have a Quest 3.
It doesn't have to. It's standalone. You don't need to be tethered to a box to use it. Room scale VR is 1000x better when you don't have a cable dangling from your head.Does quest work with PlayStation?
Also from this point of view, it would be good to re-read old interviews with Phil Spencer, it all started with the hardware of the S and the One X to re-propose itself with the X series which on paper seems to be the most powerful of the consoles ... then they fixed the operating system, which on the One had a lot of boring things, and now on new consoles it's lightning fast. then they launched gamepass which immediately became the reference service for the entire industry and with the unification of the platforms they will hardly have problems selling software or lack of users in multiplayer games. Immediately after this they started with huge investments on First party studios and today they have the highest number of studios than Sony and Nintendo .. almost doubling the number of teams that Sony has. We all know the quality of Sony titles. But hardly 4 or 5 blockbusters in a gen will be able to compete at First party level. Will they be "must have" games? Yes probably all that it produces naughty dog it is, but I don't know if it is worth spending 500 euros to have the ps5 as the primary console for 2 titles by naughty and 2 by Sony santa monica. We'll see. Probably I'll take a slim or second hand ps5 at the end of the gen when usually naughty dog launch their big hit, so as to have the maximum user reach.Yeah but even if Sony only put out 5 exclusive system sellers over the generation, 5 potential GOTY games - It still takes a lot to simply skip them. There is no good alternative solution here that will end with a lost sale. All we can do is wait a bit, maybe jump in later for a Slim/Pro/BigSSD revision, in the end they’ll still end with another sold console.
Also, PSVR2 is coming too, could be the thing that really makes Playstation stand out from Xbox and Gamepass.
I hope so. I assume they aren’t coming to PS5 at all.Shocking that a game can come to Xbox gamepass for free, yet costs $70 on ps5
Wouldn't it be funny if this strategy applied for all future Bethesda games?
It is fine, you have have PS5 for $399 anyways .Also from this point of view, it would be good to re-read old interviews with Phil Spencer, it all started with the hardware of the S and the One X to re-propose itself with the X series beast of hw ... then they fixed the operating system, which on the One had a lot of boring things, and now on new consoles it's lightning fast. then they launched gamepass which immediately became the reference service for the entire industry and with the unification of the platforms they will hardly have problems selling software or lack of users in multiplayer games. Immediately after this they started with huge investments on First party studios and today they have the highest number of studios than Sony and Nintendo .. almost doubling the number of teams that Sony has. We all know the quality of Sony titles. But hardly 4 or 5 blockbusters in a gen will be able to compete at First party level. Will they be "must have" games? Yes probably all that it produces naughty dog it is, but I don't know if it is worth spending 500 euros to have the ps5 as the primary console for 2 titles by naughty and 2 by Sony santa monica. We'll see. Probably I'll take a slim or second hand ps5 at the end of the gen when usually naughty dog launch their big hit, so as to have the maximum user reach
They are.I hope so. I assume they aren’t coming to PS5 at all.
Is it as powerful as a PS5, or more like a mobile processor?It doesn't have to. It's standalone. You don't need to be tethered to a box to use it. Room scale VR is 1000x better when you don't have a cable dangling from your head.
I assume to publish a PlayStation title MS would have to pay the platform fee like anyone else or to give a cut of each title sold to Sony. If MS is going to pay all that money for Bethesda then I assume they’ll be looking to help sell more xboxes not PlayStations.They are.
Why?
Because not only does Sony then pay for Microsofts' deal, Microsoft look like the good guy for letting non xbox gamers still play TES and Microsoft need Sony to use Azure as much as possible. If Microsoft release fallout 77 and have it on oc xbox and ps5, they sell more server space, which is Microsofts MO atm
oh yes in fact I said a revision (i won't buy that gigantic thing) a digital slim at 299 towards the end of gen as naughty dog machine. Always if they don't launch games on pcIt is fine, you have have PS5 for $399 anyways .
comparing the PS5 to the PS2 gen...Looking more and more like PS2 vs Xbox gen.
- MS and friends control the narrative.
- Xbox minor victories (MGS2s, price cuts, power gap) were treated as something more important than it really were.
-Top Xbox games (Morrowind, Halo, KOTOR, Panzer Dragon, Jade Empire) were supposed to kill the PS2.
-At the end, the PS2 was unstoppable due to network effects (demand-side economies of scale) and nonstop barrage of good games.
-PS5 widens the gap faster than the PS4; MM is the first system seller of the ninth gen, accompanied by DS, AP and PS+C; PS4 got TLOU, GOT and free games like HOR and RC, software sales and services are growing at a record pace ...
No wonder MS wants to remove Ryan by targeting useful idiots within the PS community.
first accept people dont have problem spending games on money,this whole shenanigans of some gamepass zealots who are triying to ridiculise people who spend money on games is laughlable,get a job sonyou answer was totally stupid and ridiculous accept it
the problem is quest games are still way behind half life alyx or any triplee AAA system sellerI don't think PSVR2 will do much in a world where you can get a Quest 2 for $300. And by then we might even have a Quest 3.
triying to paint outriders as something important its laughlable too,also both games are on ps5,you cant buy them,not RENTAgain, people are not understanding what is happening. Ms doesn't need to kill playstation. Every gen we have seen a merciless fight to contend for those ~ 180/200 million users who buy consoles every gen. Things have changed, at least for Microsoft, releasing on Windows already has a user base since the launch of the console that will inevitably increase the software sales. They no longer have to play dirty to grab console users when Steam alone grants them 120+ million users. All they will continue to do is to make gamepass more and more attractive and to pass the competition, as is happening in this case with the ps5 , as a highly unfavorable choice, and honestly looking at outriders and mbl it is objective is
Ok I see that you are putting it personal, then I'll try to put it better.first accept people dont have problem spending games on money,this whole shenanigans of some gamepass zealots who are triying to ridiculise people who spend money on games is laughlable,get a job son
… and you think this is scalable or sustainable keeping the games from becoming live services dopamine traps like mobile huh huh…Ok I see that you are putting it personal, then I'll try to put it better.
I already have a job, dear and if you haven't figured it out yet I'll explain it to you this is not about buying a Lamborghini instead of taking the bus, obviously everyone spends money as they like. But here we are talking about having the same identical games the PlayStation user pays them 139 euros for the Xbox 9.99 one. get a brain before you spend or get advice from someone capable as you seem to have difficulty with basic concepts
oh you can buy it on xbox too (and if you have gamepass even with a huge discount) but don't know if every game is worth to be bought. Definitely not the annual sports franchises (triying to paint outriders as something important its laughlable too,also both games are on ps5,you cant buy them,not RENT
Since we cannot contradict the convenience of the product as consumers, do we now move on to the corporate side? Cmon panaj you can do better. And I've repeated 8 million times, yes, gamepass reached a number of users 50+ k begins to be inevitably sustainable.… and you think this is scalable or sustainable keeping the games from becoming live services dopamine traps like mobile huh huh…
Nah, they will be on gamepass day one and not on PS5. That looks even better. Excluding games like TES Online, and Fallout 76.They are.
Why?
Because not only does Sony then pay for Microsofts' deal, Microsoft look like the good guy for letting non xbox gamers still play TES and Microsoft need Sony to use Azure as much as possible. If Microsoft release fallout 77 and have it on oc xbox and ps5, they sell more server space, which is Microsofts MO atm
triying to paint outriders as something important its laughlable too,also both games are on ps5,you cant buy them,not RENT