Basileus777
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Emerson said:
He's been cast.
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Game of Thrones - George RR Martin's Song of Ice and Fire - Season 1 - Sundays on HBO
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He's been cast.
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Basileus777
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ultron87 said:
Maybe they think they can get away with explaining it later. It's not relevant for what, at least another 5 seasons of the show?
bengraven
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Ep 7 (book 1 as well):
Not sure if I like the scene with Jaime and Tywin. Tywin is a lot more of a disappointed father rather than a cold hearted bastard. Maybe it's because this is a new scene and we don't see the two together in book 1 and Tywin likes Jaime. But he also likes his daughter and was fairly cold and firm around her.
This is more like a kid coming home from school to find his dad gutting a deer and Tywin is like "Jaime, I heard you got a B- on your test...don't ever let that happen again or you're grounded. Now go inside and wash up, your mom made beef n' franks and we're going to watch Glee..."
This is more like a kid coming home from school to find his dad gutting a deer and Tywin is like "Jaime, I heard you got a B- on your test...don't ever let that happen again or you're grounded. Now go inside and wash up, your mom made beef n' franks and we're going to watch Glee..."
Basileus777 said:
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Well unless Ned's ghost is going to pop up at some point and let us know what he promised his sister that seems kind of tough.
I guess Howland Reed theoretically knows all the details.
Either way it'd be much better story telling to plant the seeds in the first season instead of having it come out of left field in season 5.
I guess Howland Reed theoretically knows all the details.
Either way it'd be much better story telling to plant the seeds in the first season instead of having it come out of left field in season 5.
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bengraven said:
I think it worked fine as a way to introduce Tywin's character and show how much impact he has on his children. Jaime does a good job emoting in the scene and we see how much of a bastard Tywin is, a guy who uses his children as tools and cares mostly about the prestige and power of House Lannister.
The deer skinning seemed odd to me at first, but I like the symbolism of Tywin gutting and skinning a stag, especially given what happens to Robert in this episode.
The deer skinning seemed odd to me at first, but I like the symbolism of Tywin gutting and skinning a stag, especially given what happens to Robert in this episode.
Cornballer
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(all books)ultron87 said:
They have been planting seeds, though. "You might not have my name, but you have my blood." I don't think it's a huge problem if they leave out the Tower of Joy dream at this point. Too much other ground to cover before the season is done.
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bengraven said:
Yeah that scene didn't quite work for me either.
Also where the hell are his lamb chops. Minor detail, but irritating all the same.
Which reminds me, Lancel looks like an idiot straight out of a jrpg game. It's uncanny, really.
Basileus777 said:
I think they could probably do it in the cells without a flashback. Have the screen go all black and have some woman say Promise me, Ned. Be like a Hallucination or a dream, and wouldnt be all that surprising since its one of the most important events in his life - so wouldnt be a shock that he is remembering it then. Might work better with a bit of a flashback though. Ned holding Lyanna's hand, and Lyanna saying Promise me, Ned. I think that could totally work unexplained.
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bengraven said:
I thought that scene matched
Tywin perfectly. He always seems bored and distracted when it comes to dealing with almost anyone other than maybe Kevan. And he definitely comes off as a cold hearted bastard..
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LocoMrPollock said:
Funny you mention that second part. I always pictured Jaime as this long-haired animu style character. Like ghaleon from Lunar or Dante or something. Seeing him gritty and not ageless was disappointing at first, but I grew into him quickly since NCW is a fucking great actor. And because the feminine, cocky Jaime wouldn't make good TV.
As for your first part, (ep7)
I think my problem is that Charles Dance is TOO good of an actor. Like Harry Lloyd, he takes a fairly one-note character into a three-dimensional one and strips away the sort of mythical appeal of said character. For Viserys it was awesome, but I'm not sure I like it for Tywin. I always pictured Tywin as more Alan Dale in LOST.
That said, he'll probably grow on me, but the cold, quiet man who's voice makes everyone concentrate and sweat on every word is probably better for books than TV.
That said, he'll probably grow on me, but the cold, quiet man who's voice makes everyone concentrate and sweat on every word is probably better for books than TV.
Dark FaZe said:
Like I said up there, I thought of him as more cold and calculating than bored. Like he's playing a chess game and his family is white while the entire 7 kingdoms are black.
Basileus777
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Tywin Lannister is a one-note character? Blasphemy.
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The golden crown scene was actually terrifying.
It just goes to show how much emotion you put into scenes when you're reading. Do you just read the words and follow the story, or do you actually see the story coming alive and bursting with colors and emotion, like a film or television series? Sometimes I think I read the books and didn't realize the danger they were in until I saw it onscreen.
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It just goes to show how much emotion you put into scenes when you're reading. Do you just read the words and follow the story, or do you actually see the story coming alive and bursting with colors and emotion, like a film or television series? Sometimes I think I read the books and didn't realize the danger they were in until I saw it onscreen.
Basileus777 said:
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No no no, I guess I just meant that he doesn't show his emotions.
This Tywin is more like "fucking kids..." instead of "...children...behave or I will murder you".
This Tywin is more like "fucking kids..." instead of "...children...behave or I will murder you".
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bengraven said:
ep 7 + future book spoilers.
I don't know, that's not really how I saw him in that scene. There's no reason for him to be quite that openly hostile to Jaime in AGOT. I don't think there is anything out of character for Tywin to reprimand Jaime for recklessness and for wasting his life in the Kingsguard.
Creamium said:
Yeah, that fight was fantastic. I think episode 6 is probably my favorite so far. Episode 5 and the premiere were the biggest let downs to me. The premiere was missing...something. Mostly, it felt like a rush to get to the first twist. Could have been much better with a 2 hour premiere. Episode 5...the confrontation in between Varys and Littlefinger felt unnatural, and the fight scenes were atrocious. Going from the fight scenes in episode 5 to the Bronn fight at the Eyrie is night and day.
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Oh so that's why they choose ep7 to be HBOGo.
So people who take their iPads into the toilets with them...
ep7
I wish we had gotten at least one line or maybe more subtleties informing us that Bronn was foreswearing armor and shield because he wanted to exhaust the other man.
It just goes to show how clever he is and the lords thinking he's running because he's a coward made the ending sweeter.
So people who take their iPads into the toilets with them...
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Littlefinger brothel scene = softcore porn...actually harder than any softcore porn i've seen in a while
TheExodu5 said:
I wish we had gotten at least one line or maybe more subtleties informing us that Bronn was foreswearing armor and shield because he wanted to exhaust the other man.
It just goes to show how clever he is and the lords thinking he's running because he's a coward made the ending sweeter.
Hey guys, just caught up with the episodes.
I was wondering : would it be a "waste" to read the books? I realize that sounds like a stupid question but what I'm trying to get at is there a big difference in quality between the books or the series?
Would I be doing myself , as someone who is experiencing this for the first time, a disservice to just go ahead and read the books and take the episodes as they come?
I was wondering : would it be a "waste" to read the books? I realize that sounds like a stupid question but what I'm trying to get at is there a big difference in quality between the books or the series?
Would I be doing myself , as someone who is experiencing this for the first time, a disservice to just go ahead and read the books and take the episodes as they come?
Corky said:
it's not a waste at all. the books expand upon the shows greatly and have greater depth of character (especially for Dany, who thinks to herself more than most other characters)
it's incredibly well written and addictive since most chapters are rather short.
if you enjoy the show, you will likely love the books. you can make the decision later on to read the books after each respective season or just plow through all 5 before the next season of the show starts
LCfiner said:it's not a waste at all. the books expand upon the shows greatly and have greater depth of character (especially for Dany, who thinks to herself more than most other characters)
it's incredibly well written and addictive since most chapters are rather short.
if you enjoy the show, you will likely love the books. you can make the decision later on to read the books after each respective season or just plow through all 5 before the next season of the show starts
Cheers that sounds great, I don't know why I even thought that the books weren't going to hold high quality. Will go ahead and order them
Cornballer
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- Episode 6 of Sky Atlantic's Thronecast is up. It features Jason Momoa (Khal Drogo) and Harry Lloyd (Viserys) interviews.
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Corky said:
q_q said:
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Corky said:
Do yourself a favor: read the books after you finish watching the show.
It's likely the better way to enjoy both, now that you've already started watching.
If you do both at the same time, your mind will inadvertanly be comparing the two constantly. And you'll nitpick at the differences and end up devaluing both for yourself.
They are both great and stand well on their own, don't complicate matters for yourself.
Enjoy the show, then read the books
Besides, the latest book is really bad and painful to read, so delay it as long as you can
Cornballer
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Not a bad idea - my unsolicited advice would be for him to finish watching the first season, then start reading through the books.John Harker said:
Oh man, that was great. The show has really found its stride now and continues to improve. Loved all the stuff going down at the Eyrie. Its great to see Tyrion weasle and manuever his way out of the worst situations imaginable. It was nice to finally see Robb get to do something as well, and I loved all the stuff at the Dothraki camp. Viserys ended up being just as pathetic as I'd imagined in the books, and his demise was so satisfying. And that final scene and final line - got damn!
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Definitely. I've gone through the books twice and I'm still picking up new things that I completely missed.bengraven said:
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I find it really well-acted and mostly well-written, but so far the plot is really predictable. The dude saving the two Stark boys after he was just told it's "not his house?" Was that really necessary?Solo said:
Of course I'm assuming these episodes are all set up so it's not a judgement of the show itself yet.
And while Tyrion's character is hilarious and fun to watch, there was no weaseling or manuevering. He just invoked some rule the viewer couldn't have suspected -- trial by combat. It's like some spell in Harry Potter that was whipped out at a convenient moment. The character should be better than that: he's great.
Anyway, digging the cast so far, the lack of magic, and the potentially interesting power struggles that seem like they're about to begin.
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I'm in love with osha.Cornballer said:
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