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Fair to say that Ratchet and Clank is the best looking game made to date?

Is Ratchet and Clank A RIFT APART the best looking game to date?

  • HELL YES!

    Votes: 354 50.1%
  • NO WAY!

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It is.

Flight sim is also great but I don't find it very appealing specially in motion. I have a strong "uncanny valley" feeling playing it. The terrain is very flat and fake. Ratchet is very consistence and energetic, and it has a CG quality to it. I know it's not like a animation movie but it does a great job emulating the visuals. Truly stunning game.
 

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While Forza Horizon 5 will more than likely look awesome, I think there's two boxes you need to check with graphics and why I think Ratchet & Clank is currently the best.

The first box you need to check off is aesthetic and art direction. There's cartoon, there's futuristic, there's ancient, there's realism. You can't really compare a Forza Horizon 5 with Ratchet & Clank because they're totally different art styles. Ratchet & Clank is more comparable to Sunset Overdrive while Forza Horizon 5 is more comparable to Flight Sim.

The second box is image quality. When you zoom into a blade of grass, does it still look good? When you look at a car, is the car mirroring the reflections correctly? Is the fur on an animal detailed like real fur, or is the texture used incredibly smooth looking? Are the animations responding how the first box should (ie: cartoon jumps, realistic clouds for flight, bouncy car on bumps?)

As a bonus, include framerate. Ratchet & Clank (beat it twice) had a mostly solid 30 and if you enabled the 120hz+RT, the IQ didn't decrease so bad it was unbearable.
 

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I posted the latest footage a few pages ago and all these haters no-sold it and kept talking about cherry picked buildings up-close in Flight Sim. 😂

This absolutely takes Ratchet (and anything else not named Flight Sim) to the cleaners.

Yeah, it does if the criteria is most realistic visuals. R&C doesn't apply. Would Forza or FS be considered for best looking Pixar-isn game? Nope. So I think the thread title doesn't really work and these debates need better parameters.
 
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I posted the latest footage a few pages ago and all these haters no-sold it and kept talking about cherry picked buildings up-close in Flight Sim. 😂

This absolutely takes Ratchet (and anything else not named Flight Sim) to the cleaners.
It looks good but I wouldn't say it takes Ratchet and Clank to the cleaners at all
 

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I just got it over the weekend and started playing. I have to say maybe its just the graphical style, but I'm not blown away by it. Sure it looks great and all, but I wouldn't say its the best looking game ever made. I think a lot of this stuff comes down to personal preference and what you find appealing. There's a bunch of objective things about graphics people can say that one game is just plain better than the other, but in terms of overall art direction and style, I find these cartoony games to be a bit simplistic for me taste so I don't appreciate them like I should. To me, RDR2 is still the best graphically. Constantly blown away by the quality of that game.
 

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On the poll R and C is winning so the answer to the thread is yes.
99% of the poll was conducted right in the thick of Ratchet's launch, before Flight Sim came to consoles, and Ratchet was the only option on the poll. These results are meaningless.

I'd like to see a proper poll after the holidays that includes Forza, and Flight Sim.

I feel like while Ratchet is a great looking game, it's just the default pick for PS5 owners because one of the only true next gen exclusives on PS5. Ir will most likely be forgotten when better looking and more ambitious PS5 games emerge.
 
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99% of the poll was conducted right in the thick of Ratchet's launch, before Flight Sim came to consoles, and Ratchet was the only option on the poll. These results are meaningless.

I'd like to see a proper poll after the holidays that includes Forza, and Flight Sim.

I feel like while Ratchet is a great looking game, it's just the default pick for PS5 owners because one of the only true next gen exclusives on PS5. Ir will most likely be forgotten when better looking and more ambitious PS5 games emerge.
No matter when the poll was or what games were on it, it's always going to favour a sony console on here. Anyone denying it has their head in the sand. There are significantly more PS owners than Xbox owners not just on here but in general, so of course this forum will also be skewed towards PS.
 

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No matter when the poll was or what games were on it, it's always going to favour a sony console on here. Anyone denying it has their head in the sand. There are significantly more PS owners than Xbox owners not just on here but in general, so of course this forum will also be skewed towards PS.
True. I've noticed gaming forums heavily skew towards Sony. I think MS will gain some ground this gen though and the console warriors will be in full force in the upcoming years like the PS3/360 era.

In the days of PS4, Wii U and Xbox One, Sony was the only one to even bother showing up.
 

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No matter when the poll was or what games were on it, it's always going to favour a sony console on here. Anyone denying it has their head in the sand. There are significantly more PS owners than Xbox owners not just on here but in general, so of course this forum will also be skewed towards PS.
.....or they like Ratchet more lol

More people buy PS, to play it, thus the numbers favor that.

It would be like saying Netflix has high numbers cause Stranger Things, people love the show, a poll shows those people love the show and out number other subscriptions or something..... well.....yes, if the show is good, more people watch, subscribe etc, thus it favors in those polls

Ratchet has been a PS staple for generations and many love it, but having MORE PS owners simply means MORE like that game then what ever MS is cooking currently, shit look at the last several years of nothingness thats been going on there (keep in mind, I understand they bought a bunch of stuff and it takes time for games to be made, never going to debate that)

but that situation got that point because of the fucking nothingness we've seen from them, so can you blame majority of gamers for siding with a system that had God Of War, Ghost Of Tsushima, The Last Of Us, Horizon Zero Dawn, Spiderman, Ratchet, Uncharted, Death Stranding and many more? They got hit after hit after hit and ruled the GOTY year after year, so of course you will see "more PS owners", the fuck they suppose to do? Play bad games? Play all that shovelware shit and pretend nothing is wrong? I'm glad MS is addressing it head on and with fury, but lets not forget why that fucking happened or the state of XONE last generation.

Those "more PS owners" are cause they like what is made, thus will side with what they like, thus a poll will refect that, that is not the fault of any gamer that they like Ratchet over a flight sim game...... that would have fucking been the cause even if it was Flight Sim vs Battlefield bud.

You going to fucking tell me that cause EA has MORE users, thats not ok? Maybe they have more cause those gamers agree with liking that game, its just a moot point, it skews that way cause Insomniac makes solid fucking games.

I think MS will gain some ground this gen though and the console warriors will be in full force in the upcoming years like the PS3/360 era.

In the days of PS4, Wii U and Xbox One, Sony was the only one to even bother showing up.

Agreed. I feel MS will gain an incredible amount of ground, this gen will be like night and day compared to last gen, I enver fucking want to see a generation like that ever from this publisher, that shit was shamefull. I don't blame Phil BTW as he is making due with what was left for him, the year he got to that spot, its not like he could make all those IPs have 3 years in development , thus ready to go in a few years. Sony had a plan from the start and executed well and had new IP after new IP and showed they needed massive quality titles year after year.

The fact that the year they launched PS5, they had several massive record breaking titles for PS4, literally is a marketing push for PS5. It says boldly "here is what we do for our gamers, not theory, not maybe, not soon, but here is The Last Of Us 2 and Ghost Of Tsushima and watch break records and win awards and be solid quality AAA titles"

That alone will get people more hype for PS5, to then be the only one with REAL exclusives seals the deal for many

I feel this is great for Sony, but its still good for all consumers, it means MS won't just rest, MS won't just rely on 3rd parties and small titles, they need massive AAA offerings year after year. Both are needed to push each other and both end up helping consumers. If PS4 didn't give MS that fucking record beating, we might not be talking about a Zenimax deal today, shit MS might have not hired Phill and felt they are just fine and lets keep shit going type attitude. If the beating leads to Zenimax deal and more games for XB gamers, it was deserved lol
 

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99% of the poll was conducted right in the thick of Ratchet's launch, before Flight Sim came to consoles, and Ratchet was the only option on the poll. These results are meaningless.

I'd like to see a proper poll after the holidays that includes Forza, and Flight Sim.

I feel like while Ratchet is a great looking game, it's just the default pick for PS5 owners because one of the only true next gen exclusives on PS5. Ir will most likely be forgotten when better looking and more ambitious PS5 games emerge.

The irony. Xbox didn’t have shit from launch and still not really a big next-gen “GAME”. Since FS how good it looks, will easily forgotten by the mainstream/mass in a couple of weeks after the console launch, since they just going to test it, not play it. The more people i see asking “can i just free fly”, the more i know thst those people won’t play it for months.

R&C is one of GAMES we can talk about. All other xbox games people throwing in are not even released games.
 
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99% of the poll was conducted right in the thick of Ratchet's launch, before Flight Sim came to consoles, and Ratchet was the only option on the poll. These results are meaningless.

I'd like to see a proper poll after the holidays that includes Forza, and Flight Sim.

I feel like while Ratchet is a great looking game, it's just the default pick for PS5 owners because one of the only true next gen exclusives on PS5. Ir will most likely be forgotten when better looking and more ambitious PS5 games emerge.

But Flight Sim is available since last year on PC... Why not also wait for Horizon: Forbidden West, then?

Also, why are people still keeping this thread alive? It's clear that it was meant to be a "temporary" thread, because OF COURSE new games will someday surpass R&C.

Instead, people had to come and post stuff about FS, triggering responses and keeping the useless discussion ongoing.
 

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.....or they like Ratchet more lol

More people buy PS, to play it, thus the numbers favor that.

It would be like saying Netflix has high numbers cause Stranger Things, people love the show, a poll shows those people love the show and out number other subscriptions or something..... well.....yes, if the show is good, more people watch, subscribe etc, thus it favors in those polls

Ratchet has been a PS staple for generations and many love it, but having MORE PS owners simply means MORE like that game then what ever MS is cooking currently, shit look at the last several years of nothingness thats been going on there (keep in mind, I understand they bought a bunch of stuff and it takes time for games to be made, never going to debate that)
I feel you didn't understand what I said.....

More sony consoles out there means more people are going to choose a sony game than a xbox game. It skews polls and forum opinions.
 

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More sony consoles out there means more people are going to choose a sony game

lol and?

Its moot.

They CHOOSE a Sony system causse they like those games, do you buy shit you don't like? smh. You also have many people on here that simply like that art direction compared to realism.

So it doesn't actually "skews polls", it represents what the majority feel cause that is the base that fucking bought a PS over a XB, you are simply mad the vote didn't go your way man. Thats like saying living in the state of Florida, its not fair that old people voting make up the laws, I mean shit the more old people, the more they vote for things they like cause they old.

So this whole "1 number is bigger so its unfair booo hooo" is moot as shit, its bigger for a reason, those systems didn't just fall in the laps of consumers and its disrespectful as shit as it tries to dismiss the opinion of a consumer simply cause many agree with them. They can't help that they like Ratchet and many people agree with them.
 
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The irony. Xbox didn’t have shit from launch and still not really a big next-gen “GAME”. Since FS how good it looks, will easily forgotten by the mainstream/mass in a couple of weeks after the console launch, since they just going to test it, not play it. The more people i see asking “can i just free fly”, the more i know thst those people won’t play it for months.

R&C is one of GAMES we can talk about. All other xbox games people throwing in are not even released games.
PS5 has had better games up to now for sure, but the rest of 2021 is looking pretty bleak. Horizon FW still has no release date. Mind you, neither does Halo but we will be seeing more of it tomorrow and Forza has a release date. Unless Sony announces something soon, I'm going to concede that they're okay with MS taking some of their mojo/momentum for the remainder of the year with bigger games up for discussion.
 
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hark? Do I hear the cry of the Green bellied victim?

Christ you folks never stop with this mentality do you?...

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Huh? I was just pointing out Sony has no firm release dates on games for the rest of the year. After sitting out E3 and not announcing anything at their Play events it's starting to seem a bit strange.
 
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No matter when the poll was or what games were on it, it's always going to favour a sony console on here. Anyone denying it has their head in the sand. There are significantly more PS owners than Xbox owners not just on here but in general, so of course this forum will also be skewed towards PS.
Thats abit tinfoil hat statement from you dont you think

I like games i like no matter where it is

Sunset Overdrive is my personal GOTY 2014, Breath of The Wild is my 2017 GOTY and God of War is my 2018 GOTY

Eventually people will like game they like regardless where its available on

You need to tone down with that accusation
 
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PS5 has had better games up to now for sure, but the rest of 2021 is looking pretty bleak. Horizon FW still has no release date. Mind you, neither does Halo but we will be seeing more of it tomorrow and Forza has a release date. Unless Sony announces something soon, I'm going to concede that they're okay with MS taking some of their mojo/momentum for the remainder of the year with bigger games up for discussion.

Maybe. I think they'll be fine.

Horizon right now is a bigger IP for Sony then Halo is for MS, as in Horizon Zero Dawn has sold more units then any Halo game, so I feel they can delay it, they can wait etc. They have footage for GT7 (I have no clue when that shit is coming lol) but regardless, I feel they have lots in the pipeline that I feel they will do just fine, i don't feel Sony need to announce anything soon other then release dates for some of those titles.

I don't feel Halo even coming out this year would do much to them tbh. Halo, Gears, Forza have released many times before and haven't made a dent to the PS install base.

What I'd worry about. Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Starfield, Doom. The latest of those existing IPs are literally the best selling in the series history. Skyrim, Fallout 4, Doom Eternal, its a massive deal and imho, bigger for MS then Halo, Gears, Forza, they failed several generations with those IP, its like me telling you MS is dead when Socom comes out or when Until Dawn 2 comes out, its OVA lol I don't think in the mean time Sony has much to worry about, they have massive heavy hitters in the pipeline like FFXVI, God Of War, Horizon, GT7 (that we know about) so this year, next year, they are very much going to be in a great place compared to MS where the biggest things coming are really far.

Starfield next year is the best bet imo. Its a new IP, it will bring in lots of new users, it could be bigger then Fallout, who knows.

Almost forgot about Insomnaic lol, they likely have Spiderman 2 being worked on and with how fast that fucking team makes games, watch that shit be ready by 2023
 
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Forza Horizon 5 and Flight Simulator take that cake for me. But R&C is definitely the best looking game that doesn't go for a realistic art style.
 
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Huh? I was just pointing out Sony has no firm release dates on games for the rest of the year. After sitting out E3 and not announcing anything at their Play events it's starting to seem a bit strange.


the quote was based off this exchange "True. I've noticed gaming forums heavily skew towards Sony."

The rest of what you said was a perfectly sensible reply though I will say Sony had stepped back in the big show presentations before this and (Previous E3 IE) as they now prfeer their "State of Play's and the likely upcoming Sony big announcement like the PS5 presentation etc
 
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R&C looks amazing, MFS looks amazing, anyone arguing otherwise has an agenda.

Huh? Come on man, just stop.

I understand opinions will differ, but stop making it sound like anyone not agreeing with you MUST have a fucking agenda or something, many users on this site don't care for realistic graphics.

Not everyone will like everything, that is not an agenda, that is realtiy, that is life...
 
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PS5 has had better games up to now for sure, but the rest of 2021 is looking pretty bleak. Horizon FW still has no release date. Mind you, neither does Halo but we will be seeing more of it tomorrow and Forza has a release date. Unless Sony announces something soon, I'm going to concede that they're okay with MS taking some of their mojo/momentum for the remainder of the year with bigger games up for discussion.

MS showed most of their upcoming games already and a lot will not been seen in the coming years. Sony can (compared to MS) surprise people more with new announcement and new IP’s.

There is a reason why they are silent. Bombs will be dropped.
 

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It's not only fair, it's accurate. The amount on stuff on screen while the game holds up with RT and 60 FPS is incredible.
I played in quality but did performance really have no frame losses? Quality bogged down whenever there were a ton of enemies, explosions etc. Maybe I should have switched but the comparison between the two modes visuals seemed dramatic from screenshots I saw.

It was only when there were a huge amounts of enemies but it was noticeable.
 
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MS showed most of their upcoming games already and a lot will not been seen in the coming years. Sony can (compared to MS) surprise people more with new announcement and new IP’s.

There is a reason why they are silent. Bombs will be dropped.

Agreed.

Plus to my understand they don't want to have games announced with long windows any longer.


Its likely why the Spiderman Miles Morales and Demon Souls remake reveal was done same year as release. If Horizon 2 comes out later this year, it means they want a tight window this time around. I don't blame them though, many hate hearing about something and then the team goes ghost and every get pissed lol

I'm in the camp of "shit come when it come", but Sony staying silent shouldn't be seen as if they have nothing suddenly, those teams didn't just disappear lol
 
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Not gona lie bro this look like a pixar movie amazing👍

You have clearly never seen a Pixar movie.

The fur on the characters in R&C doesn't even look as good as the fur from Pixar movies from 20 years ago.

Go watch the latest Pixar movie Luca, compare the hair, water, lighting etc, R&C not even close.
 
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For me, R&C is the best looking game I’ve ever seen. Can’t discount what FS is doing, but it’s not a traditional game, IMO. It does look amazing, however. I feel the same way about racing games, although FH5 is a bit different because of the open world.
 

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You have clearly never seen a Pixar movie.

The fur on the characters in R&C doesn't look as good as the fur from Pixar movies 20 years old.

Go watch the latest Pixar movie Luca, compare the hair, water, lighting etc, R&C not even close.
Calm down youre hyperventilating

And to answer your question

Yes it is actually much better than any Pixar movie from 20 years ago

We are now way ahead of 2001 CGI
 
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No matter when the poll was or what games were on it, it's always going to favour a sony console on here. Anyone denying it has their head in the sand. There are significantly more PS owners than Xbox owners not just on here but in general, so of course this forum will also be skewed towards PS.

And yet the poll is nearly dead even. So yes, what games the poll is referring to absolutely does matter. Not all Sony fans are going to agree that R&C is the best looking game ever.
 

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The fur on the characters in R&C doesn't even look as good as the fur from Pixar movies from 20 years ago.

Scud, from Toy Story (1995)



Okay, that's 25+ years ago, but you get the point. How about from Toy Story 2:



PS5 can do this, no sweat. In fact, a PS4 could probably do it.

Go watch the latest Pixar movie Luca, compare the hair, water, lighting etc, R&C not even close.




Top: Ratchet and Clank
Bottom: Luca

You can tell, because in the Luca screen you can see the glove reflected in the character's eyes.

Wait ... hang on. I think I got that the wrong way around..?
 

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You have clearly never seen a Pixar movie.

The fur on the characters in R&C doesn't even look as good as the fur from Pixar movies from 20 years ago.

Go watch the latest Pixar movie Luca, compare the hair, water, lighting etc, R&C not even close.
It definitely does get close to modern Pixar movies and it surpasses the old films
 

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Scud, from Toy Story (1995)

Nice try, but comparing a background character to a main character isn't a fair comparison. How about Sulley from 2001, the hair/fur is more advanced than Rachet.


or starting at the 2 min mark


Top: Ratchet and Clank
Bottom: Luca

Have you actually watched the movie? I have twice and finished R&C.

Compare the water animation (waves lapping on the beach), the hair (with movement), the details of the textures (things like clothing) its really not even close.

R&C looks like a cartoon, Luca looks like a state of the art CGI movie.
 
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Nice try, but comparing a background character to a main character isn't a fair comparison. How about Sulley from 2001, the hair/fur is more advanced than Rachet.


or starting at the 2 min mark




Have you actually watched the movie? I have twice and finished R&C.

Compare the water animation (waves lapping on the beach), the hair (with movement), the details of the textures (things like clothing) its really not even close.

R&C looks like a cartoon, Luca looks like a state of the art CGI movie.

I'm sorry but those videos are not proving your point.. at all.
 
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You think ratchets fur is better animated than sulleys?

You can't really compare animation of both, as Ratchet's is way shorter, can you?

I'm bald, does it mean that my hairs are also worse animated than Sulleys?

But Ratchet's fur surely looks more detailed and in the videos you posted, you can also see how everything else is also better looking in R&C than in the videos.
 
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Flight simulator is the correct answer, but Ratchet comes second
 
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Says the smooth brain who thinks MFS isn't impressive.

R&C looks amazing, MFS looks amazing, anyone arguing otherwise has an agenda.

Can't wait to see you guys find a way to try and explain away how good Forza looks with similar takes.

Forza Horizon 5 looks great from the cars down to the macro/micro details of the environment. It’s been praised throughout this forum. Are you going to continue to play the victim card?
 
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Forza Horizon 5 and Flight Simulator take that cake for me. But R&C is definitely the best looking game that doesn't go for a realistic art style.
I can agree on this. For the animated movie style there is nothing coming close and I honestly expect it to stay that way until Insomniac make another game. I don’t even think a new Jak game by Naughty Dog would top it. But those who prefer a realistic style is not likely to choose R&C.
 

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MS showed most of their upcoming games already and a lot will not been seen in the coming years. Sony can (compared to MS) surprise people more with new announcement and new IP’s.

Ah, I guess new next-gen announcements from ID Software, The Coalition, InXile, Tango Gameworks, MachineGames and Compulsion wouldnt be a big deal at all (on top of all the new next-gen exclusives announced already) would they?
 

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Anybody consider Doom Eternal? That seems up there though the scope is drawn in obviously. It is a damn pretty game though, especially with RTX on and DLSS. 165fps with those kind of visuals is ridiculous. Microsoft Flight Sim is better from a technical perspective, but in terms of just eye popping visuals...I think Ratchet's got it beat.

Forza Horizon 5 looks like it will be stealing this crown regardless though.
 
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