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[Bernoulli]

So we know the controversy about the series S limiting some features on the X

But Xbox sold this as a console that has exactly every Xbox series X feature and same graphics, the only change is resolution you can see it in the engineer interview
There are at least 10 millions Series S users
i sold mine long time ago but it was working well and was very silent.
We are just in the 3rd year and now they opened the gates for devs to drop features on the S, it is only going to get worse from now on

what solution do you suggest?

If they start removing features might as well stop selling
If they can get sued for dropping the parity it won't change much if they drop it entirely

 

[MarkMe2525]

What kind of mad man ask a question in the title, to then have a completely different question in the poll?

Edit: I see that mods have changed thread title

 

[Pallas]

I don’t get this, you flame Xbox for forcing BG3’s delay with because of the dumb parity clause and now that they reverse it, you are talking about suing.

Maybe not specifically you btw, but it’s an overwhelming sentiment that the parity clause is very unpopular.

 

[Bernoulli]

What kind of mad man ask a question in the tittle, to then have a completely different question in the poll?

I didn't know how to title the thread, in an older thread everyone was saying that if Microsoft drops the X and S parity they will get sued

 

[Beer Baelly]

Only in America

 

[Robb]

Maybe, but so could any company I guess. Sony advertised GT7 as a Ps5 exclusive yet here we are.

 

[Bernoulli]

I don’t get this, you flame Xbox for forcing BG3’s delay with because of the dumb parity clause and now that they reverse it, you are talking about suing.

Maybe not specifically you btw, but it’s an overwhelming sentiment that the parity clause is very unpopular.

I made this thread because there was discussion that Xbox couldn't remove the parity clause because that would get them sued

But if you look at it from both sides it socks
10+M S users will have inferior version when they got promised parity
But if they keep it X users are held back, loose loose situation and imo the only solution is to drop the S to stop the community from getting bigger but still support that console without a 100% parity

 

[DenchDeckard]

No, it's the best move. Ms also advertised 4k. Sony 4k and 8k with raytracing. Should we sue that games aren't on the level that marketing said?

Sony showed a flipping video of unreal engine 5 and not one game has come close to looking or running like that demo. Should we sue everyone?

The parity clause is what EVERYONE wanted MS to drop and it looks like they are relaxing that.

The series S is an amazing console as a back up and a kids option. I don't think they will be playing couch co op on BG3.

also, I'm sure phone companies such as apple tout the lower end versions of their phones as all the great features and functionality of the big bog versions but cheaper, then there is ultimately differences in features.

I own a series S and I'm happy by this move. Don't hold back series X with a cheaper version.

 

[X-Wing]

 

[HoodWinked]

what are the damage though? the return amount of a game that isn't released yet?

 

[Kupfer]

Can a man be sued for creating a thread whose poll addresses a completely different question, contrary to the thread title, so that users are backlinked and results are falsified?
Hitler did nothing wrong, right?
[] Yes
[] No

 

[DenchDeckard]

Oh shit, I just realised who the thread is from. Crazy Sony shill fanboy warring. Why did I bother to respond.

 

[mrmustard]

Maybe the Sonyboys who tried to block the Activision deal can try this as well.

 

[cireza]

 

[scarlet0pimp]

This forum is going crazy with hate for the series s, absolutely frothing at the mouth at anything bad to be said about the S. All because 1 game can't have split screen mode which likely very few people will miss.

 

[Banjo64]

You can get sued for farting in a lift in America, so someone might try. Ridiculous if you ask me.

 

[Robb]

Maybe the Sonyboys who tried to block the Activision deal can try this at well.

Go team!

 

[Bojanglez]

Just let the market handle it.

 

[{insert code here}]

I don't know what's up with the poll but yes, they probably will get sued for it. The lawyers will get the biggest share, anyone who bought a series S will get $10.

 

[M1chl]

American brain, sue by who and for what.

 

[Three]

American brain, sue by who and for what.

There was a class action lawsuit for linux on PS3 if you remember people were saying they bought a PS3 for that advertised feature. You think there can't be one for Series S which was advertised as "having all the same features as Series X but just at a lower resolution"?

 

[M1chl]

There was a class action lawsuit for linux on PS3 if you remember people were saying they bought a PS3 for that advertised feature. You think there can't be one for Series S which was advertised as "having all the same features as Series X but just at a lower resolution"?

I don't think that many people don't have Xbox let alone XSS

tsk tsk

 

[Three]

I don't think that many people don't have Xbox let alone XSS

tsk tsk

I'm not sure I understand your post but if you're saying what I think you're saying then the class action lawsuit would likely be a low amount to Microsoft. It's certainly possible though with what they've advertised and claimed when selling the product.

 

[Kakax11]

Do you think MS legal department got no lawyers to make sure this won't happen?? i bet they're more than ready for legal stuff like that

I mean Sony ot 8k logo on the box and nobody thought of suing them at all because.......

 

[MasterCornholio]

I don't believe there will be a Law suit though.

 

[Panajev2001a]

No, it's the best move. Ms also advertised 4k. Sony 4k and 8k with raytracing.

Why do you keep this 8K BS up?

 

[geary]

What does parity means? how do you define it and what is not parity? RT availability is parity? multiple modes (performance, quality etc) is parity?

 

[Portugeezer]

They can and should.

But I don't think anyone cares.

 

[prinz_valium]

No, or does the Series S already have all the same graphic fidelity modes as Series X?
So there is no parity. And afaik there was never feature parity advertised.

 

[Bernoulli]

You can get sued for farting in a lift in America, so someone might try. Ridiculous if you ask me.

Yeah I'm only speaking for america

Anywhere else it won't work except EU if it gets too big

 

[cireza]

Why do you keep this 8K BS up?

Not sure that a lot of people opened their One X to check if the CPU was engraved with 8K. One X box (which people can actually look at without voiding their guarantee) says 4K, not 8K.

 

[Vognerful]

Why do you keep this 8K BS up?

Is this the outside envelope the Xbox series X box?

No?

Then why are you countering with this?

 

[SirTerry-T]

It's just video games, son. Go outside and kick a ball around with your mates for a bit.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Not sure that a lot of people opened their One X to check if the CPU was engraved with 8K. One X box (which people can actually look at without voiding their guarantee) says 4K, not 8K.

The Series X box says 8K on the back. The PS5 box says it in the front.

 

[cireza]

The Series X box says 8K on the back. The PS5 box says it in the front.

The picture posted above is the One X CPU, not Series.

 

[Ultra Donny]

I'm gonna take this holy console war one step further and proclaim Seris S as blasphemy. The one true console is the X.

 

[Goalus]

Why do you keep this 8K BS up?

Why not?

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Don't know but i'll try anyway

 

[MasterCornholio]

The picture posted above is the One X CPU, not Series.

You mean this?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fy6nUnsacAA6KCL.jpg

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61Z4Mj2CwML.jpg

Both are doing this. Doesn't make it correct in either case though.

 

[jm89]

Xbox fanbase accept Microsoft lying to them on a regular basis.

If anything they'll deposit money into Phil Spencers bank account for this gratious act.

 

[Panajev2001a]

Why not?

Oh well, sorry I thought people had standards, but hey… fill your boots . As long as you know it is BS…

 

[Panajev2001a]

Is this the outside envelope the Xbox series X box?

No?

Then why are you countering with this?

Oooh… as if it was not publicly unveiled, come on man… you are being partisan/silly here .

The funny part is that the 8K bit thing is being used to try to distract attention from the elephant in the room which is “Series S does not hold Series X back, it is the same exact experience and features at 1440p, etc…” which was strong front and centre marketing and a hot discussion point where MS and green evangelists would push back strongly on to justify the dual SKU approach… but no, totally the same thing as 8K on the box (or on a chip, for the XSX).

 

[Three]

The picture posted above is the One X CPU, not Series.

No, it's the project scarlett APU (Series X) as you can see scarlett printed on it. One X was project scorpio and had 4k printed on it.

 

[Thirty7ven]

The trick here is that MS kisses them before they fuck ‘em ja feel

 

[Mr Reasonable]

What kind of mad man ask a question in the tittle

That headline had me sniggering too.


Edit: I shouldn't have contributed to what is obviously going to be a 500 post thread about what liars corporation A are, that and all the same stuff that is repeatedly posted by the same people who apparently have nothing in their lives to be enthusiastic about, so choose to spend their lives crying about a console they don't and won't own. If that's you, you ought to buy a Series S so you can get on the Starfield hype train.

 

[Bernoulli]

What does parity means? how do you define it and what is not parity? RT availability is parity? multiple modes (performance, quality etc) is parity?

mainly game modes like split screen

resolution and frame don't matter

 

[geary]

mainly game modes like split screen

resolution and frame don't matter

why they dont matter. Do you have a definition of what means parity? For each feature/mechanic developed of a game should be a yes/no...Else for everyone parity means something different.

 

[cireza]

No, it's the project scarlett APU (Series X) as you can see scarlett printed on it. One X was project scorpio and had 4k printed on it.

Oh right, thanks for correcting me on this.

 

[cireza]

You mean this?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fy6nUnsacAA6KCL.jpg

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61Z4Mj2CwML.jpg

Both are doing this. Doesn't make it correct in either case though.

Boxes have always been full of BS since the beginning of time anyway.

Maximum specs have always been used for marketing while being impractical to reach in gameplay situation.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Boxes have always been full of BS since the beginning of time anyway.

Maximum specs have always been used for marketing while being impractical to reach in gameplay situation.

Glad you accept that both do it.