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Opinion Rumor Business A huge purchase is imminent within 1 month from now

Derktron

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Honestly I'm getting annoyed of microsoft buying studios when they have not shown any evidence to prove that they're taking advantage of the added talent in any meaningful ways.

I mean ninja theory is taking nearly a decade to release hellblade 2.. and then they showed mostly cgi trailers at e3.. I mean come on.

All while insomniac is gonna have 3 and a half games (miles is a half, not full) games out the door by 2025 for the gen.
If only I was ignorant just like you my life would be easy. How do you know the games from Xbox are going to be released by 2025 at the same time as PlayStation I mean you just admitted that PS5 won't have any games till then but look at Microsoft the wrong way. You fanboys are really the scum of the gaming communitty. INTO MY IGNORE LIST YOU GO!!
 

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If only I was ignorant just like you my life would be easy. How do you know the games from Xbox are going to be released by 2025 at the same time as PlayStation I mean you just admitted that PS5 won't have any games till then but look at Microsoft the wrong way. You fanboys are really the scum of the gaming communitty. INTO MY IGNORE LIST YOU GO!!
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Derktron

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I just say it like it is. --- I do not hold back. If I see something I will say what I think & not be a little bitch and keep it to myself because dammit people are dense. Sometimes you just have to call them out and put them in their places in the corner

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Share buyback is important for it's shareholders. It makes the stock more valuable. 20b$ acquisition is not. There is a huge difference between share buy back and acquisitions
It isn't completely uncommon to issue a buyback before big news that shifts your stock.

If you can do 60b buyback and gather 588m shares (current $102 price) and 60 days later announce something that shifts your stock up 10% you just made 6b.
 
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onesvenus

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MS to buy EA and Valve and spin off a combined Xbox division.
I don't know anything about business but why would spinning off the Xbox division make sense after two big acquisitions from Microsoft POV? You'd be spending money without reaping the rewards
 

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MS having almost 0 market share world wide and getting outsold by the ps5 here in the US is a death sentence for whatever studio they buy. Thats not including their crappy management and lack of quality control. Good luck to whoever it is.

Seems like Aesop wrote that 'sour grapes' fable just for you.

Amazing how you're so bothered, you have like 7 posts in this one page. From sneering at MS to complaining about insiders, to seeking comfort from reddit posts. Incredible.
 
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Critical thinking, folks!

If the purchase was really "HUGE"... it would imply a publisher.

Practically every remaining AAA publisher is publically traded.

Therefore, any offer by MS to buy the company would have to be made public by law.

So if there was a big publisher purchase being negotiated, we'd already know about it.

So if it's even true and not just shitty twitter rumour-mongering, it's a privately-owned developer and not a publisher.
 

leo-j

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Doesn’t that devalue Xbox as a console? I know he (lord Spencer) would put Gamepass on everything if he could so what is the point of the Xbox console when you can get all what the others offer plus game pass ?

Well if they put everything on gamepass it only makes Microsoft closer to the netflix of gaming thing. Only releasing certain games on gamepass exclusively. Imagine GTA VI announced for series x and pc only through gamepass. That’s an easy 50 million subs min. And then they force sony’s hand to put GTA on PS they would need to allow gamepass. It’s a checkmate move.
 

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Critical thinking, folks!

If the purchase was really "HUGE"... it would imply a publisher.

Practically every remaining AAA publisher is publically traded.

Therefore, any offer by MS to buy the company would have to be made public by law.

So if there was a big publisher purchase being negotiated, we'd already know about it.

So if it's even true and not just shitty twitter rumour-mongering, it's a privately-owned developer and not a publisher.
I'm by no means an expert of USA law but reading the law it says that bids can be made public after agreeing on the merger. This is done to avoid the stock price raising.

See the "Announcing the bid" and "Limited duty to disclose negotiations" sections here: https://content.next.westlaw.com/2-...(sc.Default)&firstPage=true#co_anchor_a660764

It explicitly says "Once a merger agreement has been executed, the bidder and target issue a press release announcing the agreement" (so no need to announce it before agreeing on the merger) and "A company does not have a general duty to disclose material non-public facts or corporate developments, including the existence of merger negotiations"
 

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The biggest one for me is Stein posting this then removing it quickly.

Who knows, anybody could be up for grabs at this point but if its publically traded we would of heard about it by now.

Maybe its SEGA 😂
 
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The biggest one for me is Stein posting this then removing it quickly.

Who knows, anybody could be up for grabs at this point but if its publically traded we would of heard about it by now.

Maybe its SEGA 😂

Knowing how disappointing the stuff they hype up at times , it could be a dashboard theme or controller or more frame boost stuff.

I’m hoping when all this cools they start showing some more games off maybe at VGAs
 

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I mean, they could but... that would pretty much kill Persona and SMT along with a few of their other franchises.

I believe 70-90% of their game sales are actually in Japan and we all know how Xbox sells there, PC isn't much bigger.

I know many old Sega people are with xbox now.... so I understand the desire.

1. nintendo completely dominates the JP market now more than ever, PS is fighting for their life and barely clinging to relevance

2. a huge chunk of Segas business is PC now. Football Manager, Total War, etc. they are about to abandon the Judgement series because theyre not allowed to make a PC version.

Sega would fit right in with MS and give them another huge batch of IP to mess around with. Hopefully it happens.
 
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1. nintendo completely dominates the JP market now more than ever, PS is fighting for their life and barely clinging to relevance

2. a huge chunk of Segas business is PC now. Football Manager, Total War, etc. they are about to abandon the Judgement series because theyre not allowed to make a PC version.

Sega would fit right in with MS and give them another huge batch of IP to mess around with. Hopefully it happens.

Damn, that just shows how your view is skewed I think....

PS5 is selling faster than PS4 and it is supply constrained. There is also a new studio rumored in first party there.
The generation is only a few months after beginning, it's a bit premature to write off PlayStation in Japan.

How would it fit in? Who is going to make up for the Persona and SMT lost sales?

Wouldn't it be better for them to stay independent?

I also think Japanese people are not too keen on outsiders taking over their companies. But who know? Right!?

Could happen.... Bungie repurchase or NetherRealm seems more likely, something along those lines... Both would be hype for Xbox and I wish PS would do something like that.
 

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Critical thinking, folks!

If the purchase was really "HUGE"... it would imply a publisher.

Practically every remaining AAA publisher is publically traded.

Therefore, any offer by MS to buy the company would have to be made public by law.

So if there was a big publisher purchase being negotiated, we'd already know about it.

So if it's even true and not just shitty twitter rumour-mongering, it's a privately-owned developer and not a publisher.
There are purchases that would be considered "huge" and would happen behind closed doors. Valve is private owned and pretty much would give MS 90% of PC gaming market. Second option is Sega Sammy Holding selling off it's gaming division. They already sold their arcade division.
 

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Damn, that just shows how your view is skewed I think....

PS5 is selling faster than PS4 and it is supply constrained. There is also a new studio rumored in first party there.
The generation is only a few months after beginning, it's a bit premature to write off PlayStation in Japan.

How would it fit in? Who is going to make up for the Persona and SMT lost sales?

Wouldn't it be better for them to stay independent?

I also think Japanese people are not too keen on outsiders taking over their companies. But who know? Right!?

Could happen.... Bungie repurchase or NetherRealm seems more likely, something along those lines... Both would be hype for Xbox and I wish PS would do something like that.

Sony has been a no show on the top 30 software sales in Japan more than once this year. Not a single game in the top 30. Sony is an American company now for all intents and purposes.

Bethesda was allowed to buy Tango Gameworks. American companies are allowed to buy JP companies.

Wouldn’t it be be better for Square to remain independent? Yet you were cheerleading for Sony to buy them in this very thread.

I would rather see MS buy any company over Sony because you don’t wind up with games being handcuffed to weak hardware down the line, like bloodborne being only playable in 30 fps 1080p in the year 2021. MS also goes back to old games like ninja gaiden black and does the work to get them running in high res/ fps on their new hardware. Sony either lets their old games rot on old consoles or charges you $70 plus tip for a remaster.
 

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Quoting a reddit post i thought made alot of sense:
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Bethesda was an anomaly. A perfect storm of 1) being private 2) not doing well financially and 3) Altman and Co having a great relationship with xbox.

No Japanese publisher as of now is going to look to sell. They're all doing fine and xbox would kill a lot of their audience share which is mostly Nintendo.

Most western companies are either public or don't fit the gamepsss model (take 2 with nba 2k and gta for example.)

Wb is the only real possibility and I would hardly call that a monopoly"

And 4) Altman, who was in his 70s, actively wanted to exit So it was “for sale”. He actually died in between the deal being announced and it completing .
 
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Wonder what Valve is worth. They are massive. Gabe also has history with MS. Only way I could see it happening is if Gabe wants to cash out and retire.

Which is why I think its valve

Gabe doesn't really give a fuck anymore, employees say he doesn't even do shit anymore

And Steam + Gamepass is a monopoly in the PC gaming space
 
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Dabaus

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Which is why I think its valve

Gabe doesn't really give a fuck anymore, employees say he doesn't even do shit anymore

And Steam + Gamepass is a monopoly in the PC gaming space
Valve or their making it up like they all hyped up MS e3 conference where they were supposed to announce 6 new studios. These are the same exact people hyping you up and leading you on again guys.

Is valve public or private?
 
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Wonder what Valve is worth. They are massive. Gabe also has history with MS. Only way I could see it happening is if Gabe wants to cash out and retire.

Hard to say as it’s privately owned, but I'd say $10 billion plus.

Gabe owns 50% of the stock.
 

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PS5 is selling faster than PS4 and it is supply constrained. There is also a new studio rumored in first party there.
The generation is only a few months after beginning, it's a bit premature to write off PlayStation in Japan.

He’s talking about software, not hardware.

How would it fit in? Who is going to make up for the Persona and SMT lost sales?

Put the games on Switch and they’d sell even better than before.
 
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Wonder what Valve is worth. They are massive. Gabe also has history with MS. Only way I could see it happening is if Gabe wants to cash out and retire.
Gabe seemed really passionate about human computer interface HCI in his last IGN interview. Bet if he cashes out he’s set up to direct a company focused in that initiative.
 
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And 4) Altman, who was in his 70s, actively wanted to exit So it was “for sale”. He actually died in between the deal being announced and it completing .
Hopefully that dude had a family to leave a fat check for them.
 

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1. nintendo completely dominates the JP market now more than ever, PS is fighting for their life and barely clinging to relevance


PlayStation dominates the Japanese industry, which depends on the West.

Why do you think PS japanese third party support is vastly superior to that of Nintendo ?







Capcom: Units shipped (April 2012 - March 2020)

Package Total (millions of units sold)


1.PlayStation 41.65


PS3+PS4 40.00

PSP+PSV 1.55

PS2 0.1


2.Nintendo 23.00

NDS+3DS 17.50

Wii+U+NSW 5.50


3.Xbox 13.45


 

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Honestly I'm getting annoyed of microsoft buying studios when they have not shown any evidence to prove that they're taking advantage of the added talent in any meaningful ways.

I mean ninja theory is taking nearly a decade to release hellblade 2.. and then they showed mostly cgi trailers at e3.. I mean come on.

All while insomniac is gonna have 3 and a half games (miles is a half, not full) games out the door by 2025 for the gen.
Ninja Theory released a game last year and everybody else was in the middle of development of a multiplatform game when they were acquired. Insomniac has always released games fast, mostly because they have 2 locations with 3 different teams working concurrently. Insominiac ability to constantly push out games has always been a thing and is not because of the Sony acquisition.
 

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PlayStation dominates the Japanese industry, which depends on the West.

Why do you think PS japanese third party support is vastly superior to that of Nintendo ?







Capcom: Units shipped (April 2012 - March 2020)

Package Total (millions of units sold)


1.PlayStation 41.65


PS3+PS4 40.00

PSP+PSV 1.55

PS2 0.1


2.Nintendo 23.00

NDS+3DS 17.50

Wii+U+NSW 5.50


3.Xbox 13.45


Might wanna check some more recent Japanese sales numbers lol. Playstation hardware sales have been on the downward slide there for generations. The PS5 ain't doing well. The switch on the other hand is absolutely obliterating all challengers.
 

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Might wanna check some more recent Japanese sales numbers lol. Playstation hardware sales have been on the downward slide there for generations. The PS5 ain't doing well. The switch on the other hand is absolutely obliterating all challengers.
Consoles in general are on a downward slide, the only reason Switch does what it does is because it's a portable that hooks up to the tv.
 
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BennyBlanco

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PlayStation dominates the Japanese industry, which depends on the West.

Why do you think PS japanese third party support is vastly superior to that of Nintendo ?







Capcom: Units shipped (April 2012 - March 2020)

Package Total (millions of units sold)


1.PlayStation 41.65


PS3+PS4 40.00

PSP+PSV 1.55

PS2 0.1


2.Nintendo 23.00

NDS+3DS 17.50

Wii+U+NSW 5.50


3.Xbox 13.45



YEa, Bryan and I were talking about sales in the JP market. Not sure what you're on about.
 

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Might wanna check some more recent Japanese sales numbers lol. Playstation hardware sales have been on the downward slide there for generations. The PS5 ain't doing well. The switch on the other hand is absolutely obliterating all challengers.
Is PS5 on fire in Japan?

Also, isn't it selling faster than the PS4 so your take is full of shit?
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Yup, you're full of shit, as usual.
 
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JimRyanGOAT

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Valve or their making it up like they all hyped up MS e3 conference where they were supposed to announce 6 new studios. These are the same exact people hyping you up and leading you on again guys.

Is valve public or private?

private

could also be a BS rumor

I swear the Xbox discord spreads more fake news than the Russian


Every day its a new purchase, new game, new megaton, new fucking something
 
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could also be a BS rumor

I swear Xbox discord chat spreads more misinformation than the Russian


Every days its a new purchase
Last week was a bad week for them. I think even among the true believers reality started to set in a little. So here we are discussing insane things like take 2 buyouts and other public companies being bought without publicly alerting investors but Xbox Twitter whose are made aware.

Hardware Sales don’t matter, game sales don’t matter, software sales splits don’t matter, all the metrics used for success in the last 25 years don’t matter, laws for buying public companies apparently don’t matter either. Nothing matters, MS has a lot of money therefore they win. That’s it.
 
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It's Wisdom Tree.

We're finally going to get that remake of Super Noah's Ark 3D. In the Doom Eternal engine!
 

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Is PS5 on fire in Japan?

Also, isn't it selling faster than the PS4 so your take is full of shit?
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Yup, you're full of shit, as usual.
The PS5 doing ever so slightly better than the PS4 after a single year doesn't mean it's not doing poorly. 1 million in a whole year. The best selling game for it has sold 67 000 copies lol.

Consoles in general are on a downward slide, the only reason Switch does what it does it's because it's a portable that hooks up to the tv.
Absolutely. The reason I pointed out the playstation is because the Xbox doesn't really have anywhere to slide down to, selling essentially nothing already. That just leaves the playstation.
 
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