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While the actual game's fidelity identical, that perfectly anti-aliased screen comes courtesy of down-sampling nearly 4K images.
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Killzone Shadow Fall (PS4) announced, launch title [1080p/30fps]
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While the actual game's fidelity identical, that perfectly anti-aliased screen comes courtesy of down-sampling nearly 4K images.
People need to stop thinking that the graphical leap will be the same from ps2 to ps3, we were impressed before because we went from SD to HD but this time around is more about refining that HD experience, better particle effects, better weather implementations, better animation, better textures and so on, I mainly game on PC and I'm very impressed in how the new killzone looks, the 30 frames lock might be a downer for some people, specially the ones that game on PC but to only console gamers that are complaining is just dumb, you never seen the difference and all the sudden it sucks because it runs at 30? A 30 frames per second game can look outstanding with the right ammount of motion blur, there are some games that you can barely see the difference, on the other hand is great that console games will finally run at full 1080p, IMO that's a bigger deal, you can get around the feel of the game with some effects but the IQ difference between 720p and 1080p is huge, so I'm pleased with this direction and day one for me!
JonathanPower
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Except that the gameplay video looks as much as impressive.
Those aren't bullshots. You must have never watched Fallon then when they demoed it.
Watch Dogs? Not that I'm trying to shit on your opinion, but Watch Dogs if anything looks
more current Gen than KZSF by a mile and a half. In KZSF, I'm seeing some effects that are not even being done on PC. In Watch Dogs, I'm not seeing anything more impressive it's doing over current gen, it looks like a PC version of Grand Theft, or Sleeping Dogs, and on top of that they are DEVELOPING for current gen consoles as well. Again not trying to shit on your opinion, I'd just love to hear what makes Watch Dogs, a cross gen title more impressive than a Next gen Killzone, cause I'm not seeing it.
nelsonroyale
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Watchdogs looks great, but I thought it's visuals were less impressive than pretty much all the titles at the show...the city in KZ impressed me a whole lot more, and infamous, if representative, looked more detailed and had more distinct lighting. Isn't Watchdogs a cross gen title? Although it seems to be ported down.
That IQ is insane because those are 4K images, cleaned up and downsized to 1080p The game won't look like that.
sankt-Antonio
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2560 × 1440 ≠ 1920 x 1080
Bullshots don't exist in this case. Game is identical.
shinobi602
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Only thing that will look different is the resolution. The assets, textures, AA, etc will look the same. The demo looked insanely good, as good as those shots to me actually lol.
With the PS4's specs, it's not like it can't handle it.
But it does look like that, lol.
Yes, who can forget the Uncharted/Gears of War screenshot wars back in 07? Good times.
nelsonroyale
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Personally, I think textures in Crysis 3 are currently more impressive overall, but geometry wise KZ definitely has it beat. Even on the character models in crysis you can see some rather angular features.
I think the term "bullshot" today is relegated to IQ.
But it doesn't, lol. There's footage of it were you can clearly see the jaggies and not so hot textures. Someone had even posted screenshots.
Always-honest
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Very true.
TGO
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Watch Dogs screens are Bullshots, That is how it looks in the uncompressed trailer though, I said it a few pages back theres a lot missing in those compressed vid
if anyone here is getting a PS4 my advice is make sure you got a nice 1080p TV too
shinobi602
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Looks way better than GTAV and Sleeping Dogs. And the city in KZ is non-accessible, of course it will look good. The city in Watch Dogs is open and they have to go into a whole lot more detail.
You can't compare a huge open world game with linearly focused game like KZ where they can control most of what the player sees.
SniperHunter
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I doubt Watch dogs will look that good on either PC or the next systems. It was running too smoothly IMO, typical ubisoft bullshit, the same company that gave us unoptimized pieces of shit that are Ass creed 3 and Far cry 3
Jaggies? sure. Textures? looks similar.
So now you admit those are bullshots?
But they aren't! The look the saaameeee!
Watch Dogs is indeed a cross gen game with the next-gen platforms as lead. And I stand by what I said, I watched the KZ footage multiple times and while it looks lovely, it did not it nearly as impressive as the Watch Dogs demo.
I don't know why but the water rendering is a detail that's scarved upon my brain :
Character models, effects, textures and lighting are what impress me so much, oh and the animation as well. I'm not seeing anything new in the KZ footage, the assets are what I would expect from a decent next-gen game, nothing more.
Sure.
I don't think every bit of it looked better though. Mostly on par for the course which is clear enough. Which I don't think constitutes as a bullshot.
TGO
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Crysis 3 is all textures, PC games are all textures actually its just one of the benefits I guess
with a mod pack just look at GTA4 on PC
nelsonroyale
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Yeah, I was just talking from a pure aesthetic perspective...I think Watchdogs is much more impressive visually than Sleeping dogs.
Vire
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Watch Dogs is indeed a cross gen game with the next-gen platforms as lead. And I stand by what I said, I watched the KZ footage multiple times and while it looks lovely, it did not it nearly as impressive as the Watch Dogs demo.
I don't know why but the water rendering is a detail that's scarved upon my brain :
The only impressive thing going on in that entire screenshot is the water.
The buildings and geometry itself look like hot poo poo.
Actually the ones Eurogamer got were 3840x2160 resolution. No difference.
Pharaoh 117
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I've played Crysis 3 maxed out. Count 1 more vote for K:SF. I cannot put my finger on it, but something in C3 visuals doesn't look right to me. Maybe the lighting? I don't know. Game is crazy detailed tho.
An image with heavy depth of field doesn't prove much.
shinobi602
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Really? Come on you're exaggerating. What other open world games out today look so good to make them look like "hot poo poo" hm?
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Infidel! How dare you bring logic to hyperbore!?
It at least shows the quality is pretty much par for the course. Which is the point.
velociraptor
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1080P BABY, 1080P.
nelsonroyale
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We will have to wait and see, but Infamous seemed to rendered using the engine, and looked more impressive from what was there to me. Still, I think WD looks very impressive.
shinobi602
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The demo already looks unbelievably good, that's all that matters.
Infamous was gameplay apparently, which is super impressive.
JonathanPower
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Yeah, but those screens are taken from compressed videos.
Pretty much. Looked insanely good and nearly on par with its press screens.
madmaxx350
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I'm gonna remember this. A lot of people ate crow with KZ2 so we'll see lol
This image shows the days of bad IQ are still far from over:
http://images.eurogamer.net/2013/articles//a/1/5/5/8/5/1/6/Killzone_011.png/EG11/resize/1920x-1
shinobi602
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Well, I can't comment on what the new Infamous will look like. The first 2 games already looked great on PS3 except for the horrible aliasing and blurring.
But yes, from an open world launch title, I'm completely content with WD:
ProfessorMoran
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You're forgetting that when God of War 2 came out people were saying that it looked better than a lot of current gen games, the same things were said about last gen and this gen, but there is no question that when one looks at a game like Uncharted 3 and compare it to anything last gen, it's a gigantic leap, right now Killzone SF already looks better than basically every current generation console game right now, and Infamous Second Son looks significantly better than Infamous 2, the question is how much better will games on PS4 look and that will be up to developers like Naughty Dog.
Always-honest
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No, the uncompressed footage shows jaggies and shimmering lines. Early demo footage, but they really need to add some nice aa in the end.
Whit the extra Ram i have no doubt they will succeed.
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