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The assassination of Kara Lynne by the cowards at Limited Run Games

Panajev2001a

GAF's Pleasant Genius
Well i just googled for like 2 minutes because you didn't include a screencap or something (honestly had no idea what the fuck you were talking about haha) because i'm bored, so is this it?

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Is this the only thing that started it all? Or is there more?

And is this the only reason why this individual was fired from that company?
This did not start it, people started digging in her past to find something to shout bloody morder about to get this person fired.
 

hemo memo

Member
Yes companies will sell you for a dime. Just don’t burn yourself thinking they give a damn about you. I would’ve respected them more if they actually defended their employee and not throw them them under the bus because of the cancel mob.
 
Yes companies will sell you for a dime. Just don’t burn yourself thinking they give a damn about you. I would’ve respected them more if they actually defended their employee and not throw them them under the bus because of the cancel mob.
As soon as 10 strangers comment on you to your employer, you've most likely exceeded the liability youre worth. The main issue is that basically every employer on earth is likely to do this. Especially if you're in an online focused sales job and you're literally a PR / community outward facing position.
 

93xfan

Banned
But she is following literal transphobes, people whose content is overwhelmingly focused specifically on anti-LGBT rhetoric.

I'm making an argument from analogy. Matt Walsh is to trans people what Richard Spencer is to Jews.


Extremity isn't really the point, it's the fact that 90% of what these people talk about is how LGBT are coming for your children. They're people hyperfocused on this issue in the same way Richard Spencer is hyperfocused on race and white identity shit.
No. Matt Walsh is trying to save people from committing horrible atrocities on children.

People against Matt Waslh on this issue are just anti-truth zealots who love pretending they themselves are exceptionally loving - to others who will love them for it.
 
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RoboFu

One of the green rats
It’s quite telling when people throw out the word “ transphobic “ when almost no one has said anything about transgenders for this.

This actually has very little to do with trans and more to do with the culture of the people crying about everything to fill some sort of void idk.

There worst thing that gets to me is what I deem “the self appointed messiah complex”. People who speak as if they represent a majority. Like when the news or a politician says “ the black community, the gay community, the trans community” .. ect. There is no single group. They don’t have meetings and vote on central ideals. 😂. THEY DO NOT HAVE A CENTRAL CULTURE !
They are different people with different ideals and different views. Stop pretending to represent people who never asked you to represent them.
 

clem84

Gold Member
The opinions expressed by Kara Lynne, to me, fall in the category of acceptable opinions. She expressed concerns that trans rights might affect women's rights. Was it a little direct, undiplomatic? Sure. And anyone can disagree with her, but this is not hate. People should also be free to follow anyone they want on social media, whether they agree with them or not.

In a normal world, the staff would have had a meeting with her, explained the situation and told her "As community manager, you're one of the faces of the company and you have responsibilities. Just be careful in the future". Something along those lines. Then the company would have made a public statement about how they met with her and the matter was dealt with internally. "We want to foster an inclusive community..." yada yada. That's it. To me that would have been appropriate. Firing her for an insensitive tweet and wrong-follow is nuts.
 

Dr. Claus

Vincit qui se vincit
The opinions expressed by Kara Lynne, to me, fall in the category of acceptable opinions. She expressed concerns that trans rights might affect women's rights. Was it a little direct, undiplomatic? Sure. And anyone can disagree with her, but this is not hate. People should also be free to follow anyone they want on social media, whether they agree with them or not.

In a normal world, the staff would have had a meeting with her, explained the situation and told her "As community manager, you're one of the faces of the company and you have responsibilities. Just be careful in the future". Something along those lines. Then the company would have made a public statement about how they met with her and the matter was dealt with internally. "We want to foster an inclusive community..." yada yada. That's it. To me that would have been appropriate. Firing her for an insensitive tweet and wrong-follow is nuts.

It isn't even just that. They fired her for a tweet she made before she ever worked for the company.

Imagine going to work tomorrow and then your boss pulling you aside and telling you that you're fired because someone remembered something you said back in High School and got angry.

Fucking bonkers, mate.
 

93xfan

Banned
Here’s my tip for all of you in life. It doesn’t just go for this community manager issue but overall.

Stay away and ignore losers on social media. Don’t bother arguing with them. If it means you let them them win the battle for the day let them. You, me, and all of us on GAF are better than that.

You can see by their down in the dumps loser lifestyle they go all out arguing, doxxing, cancel culture, causing trouble at work etc…. They won’t back down. And the more you bicker with them the worse they get. They are all in such low self esteem, broke, shitty job situations they really got nothing to lose. They look for any situation to win a fight for the day. They can’t get any lower really. Any attention they get on Twitter or YT just encourages them to keep going.

Treat them like before social media. Ignore them. When they got nobody to argue with their existence shrivels up. It’s no different than console warriors. When there’s no good news to argue about and the get ignored they thin out as nobody wants to interact with them.

They are mostly all social outcasts who rely on social media for interaction and getting listeners because in face to face chat they are oddball idiots nobody wants to call up for lunch or go to a pub or ballgame with. Basically socially awkward outcasts. But give them attention on social media or bickering with them on Twitter and it makes them want to keep doing it. Leave them alone like before the internet and let them sit alone in their basement by themselves.

Every minute you spend wasting time arguing with a crazy person is a minute you could've spent doing something productive or that makes you happy. There are people who are naive and believe they can change the minds and get through to people. You can't. I think there are some people who aren't crazy and are just ill-informed, and I've had dialogue with those types where I legitimately changed their minds on certain issues through reason and facts. But with crazy ideologues, don't waste your time.
I try to use any chance to speak the truth, as all of us must do. It’s not for the person arguing, but for everyone to read.

were it just I and the person arguing and no one else was around I may not bother.
 

93xfan

Banned
The opinions expressed by Kara Lynne, to me, fall in the category of acceptable opinions. She expressed concerns that trans rights might affect women's rights. Was it a little direct, undiplomatic? Sure. And anyone can disagree with her, but this is not hate. People should also be free to follow anyone they want on social media, whether they agree with them or not.

In a normal world, the staff would have had a meeting with her, explained the situation and told her "As community manager, you're one of the faces of the company and you have responsibilities. Just be careful in the future". Something along those lines. Then the company would have made a public statement about how they met with her and the matter was dealt with internally. "We want to foster an inclusive community..." yada yada. That's it. To me that would have been appropriate. Firing her for an insensitive tweet and wrong-follow is nuts.
They know this. They just love smearing people
 

Reallink

Member
It’s quite telling when people throw out the word “ transphobic “ when almost no one has said anything about transgenders for this.

This actually has very little to do with trans and more to do with the culture of the people crying about everything to fill some sort of void idk.

There worst thing that gets to me is what I deem “the self appointed messiah complex”. People who speak as if they represent a majority. Like when the news or a politician says “ the black community, the gay community, the trans community” .. ect. There is no single group. They don’t have meetings and vote on central ideals. . THEY DO NOT HAVE A CENTRAL CULTURE !

They are different people with different ideals and different views. Stop pretending to represent people who never asked you to represent them.

Though a common misconception among predominantly CIS white people, in aggregate and at a macro level, most minority groups actually are mono cultures politically. For example ~90% of black voters typically vote Democrat. I believe Biden 2020 at just over 80% was the lowest black vote ratio in modern history. Not sure if census polls reports by sexuality, but I'd fully expect LGBTQ communities also vote as a super majority for Democrats, with only an infinitesimal minority going for Republicans.
 
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SF Kosmo

Al Jazeera Special Reporter
No. Matt Walsh is trying to save people from committing horrible atrocities on children.
Bald faced lie. Matt Walsh is against adults transitioning, against gay people marrying, against protections for gay people in the workplace, literally every single LGBT interest or right, without exception.

Drop the strawman bullshit, it's just not true.

What do you mean by transphobe?

Matt Walsh does not believe that trans is real thing and that people should not be able to get gender affirming care ever. That qualifies, no?
 
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The_Verecocha

Neo Member
Good to see. I really hope enough people comment to make such a stink it’s picked up by more channels for more visibility.
 

Dr. Claus

Vincit qui se vincit
Those are probably people that are following this guy:


Might be wrong ofc.


Took a quick look and the vast majority don't follow him.

Bald faced lie. Matt Walsh is against adults transitioning, against gay people marrying, against protections for gay people in the workplace, literally every single LGBT interest or right, without exception.

Drop the strawman bullshit, it's just not true.



Matt Walsh does not believe that trans is real thing and that people should not be able to get gender affirming care ever. That qualifies, no?

I am unaware of Matt Walsh, nor do I really give a shit about who they are. All I know is that you are desperate to paint the former employee as a transphobe, despite having zero evidence to support that fact. You are kind of a massive scumbag.
 
Here’s my tip for all of you in life. It doesn’t just go for this community manager issue but overall.

Stay away and ignore losers on social media. Don’t bother arguing with them. If it means you let them them win the battle for the day let them. You, me, and all of us on GAF are better than that.

You can see by their down in the dumps loser lifestyle they go all out arguing, doxxing, cancel culture, causing trouble at work etc…. They won’t back down. And the more you bicker with them the worse they get. They are all in such low self esteem, broke, shitty job situations they really got nothing to lose. They look for any situation to win a fight for the day. They can’t get any lower really. Any attention they get on Twitter or YT just encourages them to keep going.

Treat them like before social media. Ignore them. When they got nobody to argue with their existence shrivels up. It’s no different than console warriors. When there’s no good news to argue about and the get ignored they thin out as nobody wants to interact with them.

They are mostly all social outcasts who rely on social media for interaction and getting listeners because in face to face chat they are oddball idiots nobody wants to call up for lunch or go to a pub or ballgame with. Basically socially awkward outcasts. But give them attention on social media or bickering with them on Twitter and it makes them want to keep doing it. Leave them alone like before the internet and let them sit alone in their basement by themselves.
That's a lotta words for saying "give em a funkygunther funkygunther " and not call the next day.

But seriously. I don't use social media as I just want to be left alone with my friends and bbqs.
 

01011001

Banned
Took a quick look and the vast majority don't follow him.



I am unaware of Matt Walsh, nor do I really give a shit about who they are. All I know is that you are desperate to paint the former employee as a transphobe, despite having zero evidence to support that fact. You are kind of a massive scumbag.

followings libs of tiktok is a very gigantic red flag...
 

Dr. Claus

Vincit qui se vincit
followings libs of tiktok is a very gigantic red flag...

So you mean to tell me that if you follow someone, you 100% agree with everything they say? If so, please post your Twitter so we can see all the kinds of people you follow and the horrible person you truly are.

See how little sense that makes? I follow Trump on Twitter, and Kanye, and Biden, and numerous other individuals. Doesn't mean I agree or trust anything they say, just that I want to stay informed.

If you are making a joke though, it went completely over my head.

I’m playing Fractured but Whole and boy are they making a mockery of that culture, but I guess South Park is uncancellable.

Yep. They mock everyone and make tons of money, probably the only reason they haven't been "cancelled" yet. Not that their haven't been attempts made lol.
 

01011001

Banned
So you mean to tell me that if you follow someone, you 100% agree with everything they say? If so, please post your Twitter so we can see all the kinds of people you follow and the horrible person you truly are.

it's a combination of things and this is one of them.

she followed a bunch of accounts that are in the same spectrum.

if you see someone standing next to a dead body with a bloody knife, it's very sensible to assume that the person holding the murder weapon is involved in the murder even if you didn't see it first hand.

I still think it should not be legal to fire her over that btw.
in a perfect world she would sue the shit out of them and make them go bankrupt
 
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SF Kosmo

Al Jazeera Special Reporter
I am unaware of Matt Walsh, nor do I really give a shit about who they are. All I know is that you are desperate to paint the former employee as a transphobe, despite having zero evidence to support that fact. You are kind of a massive scumbag.
I am just trying to keep this conversation honest, man. I don't think she should have been fired and I think resetera is an entirely toxic place. That doesn't mean lying is a good way to make your point.
 
i would boycott but a) I’m all digital and b) had never heard of them.

JK Rowling has never said anything (at least that I’ve seen) that a sane person would consider offensive. They might disagree, but not be offended. World’s gone mad.
 

ironmang

Member
i would boycott but a) I’m all digital and b) had never heard of them.

JK Rowling has never said anything (at least that I’ve seen) that a sane person would consider offensive. They might disagree, but not be offended. World’s gone mad.
You're not missing out. The physical versions they sell are like twice as expensive as digital and can take many months to ship.
 

Dr. Claus

Vincit qui se vincit
it's a combination of things and this is one of them.

she followed a bunch of accounts that are in the same spectrum.

if you see someone standing next to a dead body with a bloody knife, it's very sensible to assume that the person holding the murder weapon is involved in the murder even if you didn't see it first hand.
A "combination" of things? You mean a handful of follows in a list of NEARLY 2000 and a single tweet from 7 years ago? You are reaching so hard I am surprised you haven't hit Proxima Centauri yet. Your example also makes zero sense. It would be more like hearing someone was killed in Albuquerque and assuming it is your neighbor because you saw a photo of them holding a knife 7 years prior. You have to make some serious leaps to reach that conclusion.

I am just trying to keep this conversation honest, man. I don't think she should have been fired and I think resetera is an entirely toxic place. That doesn't mean lying is a good way to make your point.
You aren't doing any such thing. You want to paint someone as a reprehensible person and celebrate her firing. I repeat what I said at the end of the previous post: You are kind of a massive scumbag.
 
I am unaware of Matt Walsh, nor do I really give a shit about who they are. All I know is that you are desperate to paint the former employee as a transphobe, despite having zero evidence to support that fact. You are kind of a massive scumbag.
Matt Walsh made a recent high profile, influential documentary about trans issues. He comes off really well and rational in interviews. Then the crushing disappointment sets in when you delve into the rest of his career and see that he's one of the most hardcore religious fundamentalists around. Really damages his appearance in the documentary as a fair rationalist. Pretty much impossible to take anything he says seriously regarding science, studies, freedom, virtually anything when you see some of his other positions.
 
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Dr. Claus

Vincit qui se vincit
Matt Walsh made a recent high profile, influential documentary about trans issues. He comes off really well and rational in interviews. Then the crushing disappointment sets in when you delve into the rest of his career and see that he's one of the most hardcore religious fundamentalists around. Really damages his appearance in the documentary as a fair rationalist. Pretty much impossible to take anything he says seriously regarding science, studies, freedom, virtually anything when you see some of his other positions.

Thank you for the info. Sounds like I am not missing much by ignoring his existence lol.
 
Matt Walsh made a recent high profile, influential documentary about trans issues. He comes off really well and rational in interviews. Then the crushing disappointment sets in when you delve into the rest of his career and see that he's one of the most hardcore religious fundamentalists around. Really damages his appearance in the documentary as a fair rationalist. Pretty much impossible to take anything he says seriously regarding science, studies, freedom, virtually anything when you see some of his other positions.

This is an absurdly bizarre take.

Any person, of any ideological viewpoint, can acknowledge and have the courage to state an objective truth. The fact that you might disagree with other unrelated opinions they hold on entirely unrelated subjects should be irrelevant.

If a person states an objective truth as a truth, they are correct on that subject. It doesn't matter whatever else they believe.

You can simultaneously agree with some public figures' views on some issues while disagreeing when them on others. You're actually allowed to do that.

Dismissing a person entirely because you disagree with an opinion they hold on one specific issue makes you no better than the lunatic ideologues that perpetrate cancel culture and all the other shitty social ills that infest modern liberal societies.
 

PJX

Member
All fair points, but all I see is that an awful lot of woman are uncomfortable with trans woman using their spaces, and that there appears to be zero interest from the other side in accepting this, and discussing it sensibly to arrive at a settlement that is beneficial for all.

The absolute unwillingness to compromise here is the issue. And that unwillingness seems to be mixed up in more than a small amount of misogyny.
Dude, I have a young daughter and young nieces, you think I want some guy who thinks he's a woman to use the same bathroom as them? No I don't.
 
This is an absurdly bizarre take.

Any person, of any ideological viewpoint, can acknowledge and have the courage to state an objective truth. The fact that you might disagree with other unrelated opinions they hold on entirely unrelated subjects should be irrelevant.

If a person states an objective truth as a truth, they are correct on that subject. It doesn't matter whatever else they believe.

You can simultaneously agree with some public figures' views on some issues while disagreeing when them on others. You're actually allowed to do that.

Dismissing a person entirely because you disagree with an opinion they hold on one specific issue makes you no better than the lunatic ideologues that perpetrate cancel culture and all the other shitty social ills that infest modern liberal societies.
Im good finding my info elsewhere. He's said some of the most absurdly hypocritical things on the one issue I tried to take him seriously on. If he set aside his religious views to approach school education as a fair rationalist then fine. But literally wants to indoctrinate kids in the same way but just for his views. I dont use the words "hardcore religious fundamentalist" lightly. I dont need to get my info from this guy. Its not like he brought any new info I wasnt already aware of. He just made a documentary with some funny and shocking interviews. The way he presented himself in the documentary was misleading when you get a better sense of what he actually thinks.
 

-Zelda-

Banned
This whole thing is stupid, but if her company fires her over this, then it was not a good place to work in the first place. I am confident she will find a better job soon now that this story has made her more popular (Streisand effect).
True, but she may be getting some hate as well because I saw lots of posts also celebrating LRG from firing her. She has locked her twitter down from people interracting with her now, so she may not accept my pending follow for fear that I am one of her haters.
 
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Wish these companies would learn that the woke ain't buying their shit. They're spending most of their time on forums and social media trying to find the next cause and/or person to fire.

Twitter is not the world. And because we have views on there, it looks even dumber. A quarter of a million people saw that cancel tweet, yet only 1K agreed with it. Yea, that's a good ratio to stake your company on.

And what's hilarious is that after they got her fired they moved on, looking for the next mission. They aren't even trying to defend the company on their newest tweet where they are getting bludgeoned by people who are probably their actual customers.
 
Im good finding my info elsewhere. He's said some of the most absurdly hypocritical things on the one issue I tried to take him seriously on. If he set aside his religious views to approach school education as a fair rationalist then fine. But literally wants to indoctrinate kids in the same way but just for his views. I dont use the words "hardcore religious fundamentalist" lightly. I dont need to get my info from this guy. Its not like he brought any new info I wasnt already aware of. He just made a documentary with some funny and shocking interviews. The way he presented himself in the documentary was misleading when you get a better sense of what he actually thinks.

You don't have to get your info. from him. It's fine that you can just acknowledge his conduct in the interviews in his documentary was fair and rational. You don't have to consume any more of his content.

I disagree totally that his rationalist views on gender ideology and his conduct in his documentary were misleading. I agree totally with his views on gender ideology, but I disagree completely with his views on guns for example. His more extreme views on one subject don't somehow throw his rational views on another into question.

I'm 100% sure you hold very rational views about a number of subjects while holding very irrational views on others (I've seen your gaming posts... lol).
 
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KungFucius

King Snowflake
Jesus Christ that's horrible. I've heard and seen people say they don't want to support Hogwarts Legacy because of Rowling. Which, if that's how you feel, sure, whatever.

But don't shit on other people because they're interested in the game, and don't pay any attention to her, or her opinions, lol. I know plenty of people that love the Harry Potter universe but don't know or care about Rowling and any of the things she says. They just maintain that blissful ignorance. Regardless, I'll never understand the kneejerk radical takes. It's insane to me.

I was attempting to find pictures to share, but it seems she already locked and protected her Twitter. So, yeah, she must have gotten attacked. :\
The thing that is the problem here is that Rowling has nothing to do with the game. She might get a little cash from the licensing deal, but that is it. The dev paid for a license and developed a game completely independent from Rowling. Hundreds of people worked on it for years. On top of that, millions grew up on the books and or movies. Why the fuck should the authors bizarre, bigoted behavior decades after she wrote the books give people license to shit on hundreds of hard working game developers or millions of fans?

I'm gonna buy the game to spite these assholes.
 
You don't have to get your info. from him. It's fine that you can just acknowledge his conduct in the interviews in his documentary was fair and rational. You don't have to consume any more of his content.

I disagree totally that his rationalist views on gender ideology and his conduct in his documentary were misleading. I agree totally with his views on gender ideology, but I disagree completely with his views on guns for example. His more extreme views on one subject don't somehow throw his rational views on another into question.

I'm 100% sure you hold very rational views about a number of subjects while holding very irrational views on others (I've seen your gaming posts... lol).
Well you made me laugh. I dont completely disagree with what you said but I'll just leave it at that so we don't get more political. Good day sir!
 
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