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[ChiefDada]

Didn't Spiderman get RT added for PS5 with a RT mode?

Yeah but I think's it a bit of different - Spiderman lowest resolution prior to RT patch was 1440p and frame rate was very stable. Returnal's internal resolution is already low at 1080p and framerate can dip heavily when shit hits the fan in Atropos (overall not terrible at all). 60fps is an absolute must for this game so If they choose to include ray tracing, then particle and enemy density would have to be reduced significantly I think; I wouldn't want to play Returnal in such a mode but to each their own. Options are always good for us gamers.

Look Im no Bryank and Im glad Sony isnt just doing a bare minimum job porting these games, but they shouldve offered something. maybe a 40 fps mode? I paid $500 to Sony for a PS5. $70 for the game on Day one. One of the few 500k players to do it. And now they go above and beyond for PC users? Meanwhile Im sitting here with my $600 trying to arm chair engineer an RT solution for this ray traced capable console.

I mean the game isnt even pushing any graphical boundaries. Why is it even 1080p? It almost never drops frames so its likely running 80-100 fps like Ratchet. Why not release a VRR patch like insomniac did? Why not offer a 40 fps mode with ray traced reflections and skip shadows if thats too expensive?

I can see why some people might feel a bit disappointed by how much effort Sony is putting into their PC ports because the same effort isnt being put into PS5 versions.

You know I absolutely love the 40fps implementation but I can't see it for Returnal. I think Housemarque made all the right calls on this one. I don't think it's fair to say the game isn't pushing boundaries when you have a million particles flying around at 60fps. Also, it definitely drops frames when things get very intense. Call me crazy but Returnal is the most visually striking game on PS5 do to the particle tech and 60fps. Like i said above options are always good and it would be cool to see another mode with focus on fidelity but I most likely wouldn't enjoy playing it as much.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

Because you’re posting on a forum and we’re allowed to say we don’t care about your post. And again: we don’t care if this frustrastes you.
Sell your ps5 already.

Pro tip for you. If you don’t care about something, don’t comment. Otherwise it looks like you actually care. Like in this case. You’re clearly invested.

 

[Swift_Star]

Pro tip for you. If you don’t care about something, don’t comment. Otherwise it looks like you actually care. Like in this case. You’re clearly invested.

 

[azertydu91]

For the people that like a scifi alien action game , Returnal is a must play, it can be hard a first but once you let go and play by instinct it is amazing and you feel like an invincible monster.

 

[SlimySnake]

I dont think its always a casre of Sony going 'above and beyond' for PC users. I mean maybe PS5 just couldnt do ray tracing, the game is already at 1080p internal resolution right?.
There is also the posibility that Sony maybe thinking of going back and updating PS5 games whenever PS5 Pro comes out.

it's possible which is why i suggested a 40 fps mode. ray traced reflections typically have a 35% performance cost on PC. that means we are looking at 45 fps down from 60 fps.

I dont know. Even cyberpunk and dying light 2 released a 30 fps ray traced version for the PS5, and this is a first party game being sold for $70. if you can fund a PC port, you can fund an RT mode.

 

[rofif]

Returnal has THE BEST haptic ever. It broke my R2 spring lol.
You can mute the sound from speakers and controller and you still hear everything from the controller haptics. Stepping into teleporter is so good.
But mouse and keyboard will be good for this game

 

[Fafalada]

Eh i don't see how they can push any sort of RT for PS5 version. The game seems to pushed to the max based on 1080p internal resolution.

One thing that will be useful from a PC port is being able to see what the renderer is actually doing.
DF's 'explanation' of the supposed resolution setup was some of the most inane nonsense I've ever heard.

 

[SmokedMeat]

I’m ready for Returnal. I wasn’t expecting PS5 games yet, so this is great if true.

 

[Swift_Star]

Returnal has THE BEST haptic ever. It broke my R2 spring lol.
You can mute the sound from speakers and controller and you still hear everything from the controller haptics. Stepping into teleporter is so good.
But mouse and keyboard will be good for this game

I’m waiting for the ps+ to be released here so I can play it. Didn’t want to buy because of the rogue lite nature of the game.

 

[rofif]

I’m waiting for the ps+ to be released here so I can play it. Didn’t want to buy because of the rogue lite nature of the game.

The progress is very rogue like lite for sure.
But there is constant progress. Runs can take 3 hours easily though

 

[Poppyseed]

Returnal is so good.

Returnal is a masterclass.

 

[kyliethicc]

kyliethicc , avatar. who?

summer sun ray

 

[Lognor]

Dreams fits pc perfectly and KB+M would work way better for the game than a gamepad. Can’t really see why they wouldn’t release it.

Because it cost money to port it to pc and it is unlikely to recoup those costs. It came and went on ps4 and nothing revolutionary was made for it on ps4. It lost all its buzz.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

I don’t really care since I have no desire for a pc.

I hear 'ya. PC is still something for me to consider because that's probably how I'm going to access MS 1P games this gen. I was considering a Series S but I'm prob gonna get an Apple TV instead. They have a few games there that aren't elsewhere like Fantasian, that I'm interested in playing. Meanwhile I got a laptop and an eGPU setup could do well for Series S-level performance for the Xbox games.

And of course a PS5 for the 1P games and a lot of the backlog I might've missed out on like SoTC Remake and Detroit. Unless they also bring PS+ Extra/Premium to PC as well

Because it was sold to the wrong audience. PC is the ideal audience for Dreams.

Been wanting this for a long time. But the main reason was because on PC you'd likely be able to use keyboard & mouse and that would seem more comfortable for me than VR controls.

But yeah, really hoping they still bring Dreams to PC or at least allow a way for people to make and distribute their own content/games using it. It's something I think saw the team touch on way back, dunno where the plans for that are still.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

FF XVI looking hype AF

 

[Captain Toad]

Returnal is a masterclass.

Returnal is sex on a summer day

 

[rofif]

Returnal is sex on a summer day

Sweaty and exhausting. Might cause heart attack. For sure needs a shower afterwards.

 

[CamHostage]

Call me crazy but Returnal is the most visually striking game on PS5 do to the particle tech and 60fps. Like i said above options are always good and it would be cool to see another mode with focus on fidelity but I most likely wouldn't enjoy playing it as much.

I mean, I enjoyed playing the Vita version of Dead Nation and Resogun, so a little of this for a little of that, it's all for fun...

But I'm with you that I'm glad Housemarque is very clear with its intents and dialed in precisely on that 60FPS gameplay, and that's to be respected IMO if they don't ever offer a 40FPS+RT mode.

The PC version if/when (weird that it wasn't announced when the leak seems pretty clear unless faked that it's ready to go) would be a good time to reintroduce the game with PS5 options and maybe other aspects. (They already did the Ascension update so I don't know if they have a big new content drop ahead but it'd quell the rabble a bit if there was news for both PC and PS5 gamers at the same time.)

 

[Xmengrey]

I bet Sony leaked these to make Spider-Man more surprising.

 

[ACESHIGH]

That was what I was talking about! Bring out the big guns! Sackboy... don't make me laugh. Maybe in a Tier 1 Humble Bundle. Are those still a thing?

 

[Victor Omega]

how and who approves sony games for PC? i want to know so I can tell them the order 1886 NEEDS to be on PC

 

[Guilty_AI]

Because it cost money to port it to pc and it is unlikely to recoup those costs. It came and went on ps4 and nothing revolutionary was made for it on ps4. It lost all its buzz.

Not to mention theres big competition on pc with how many games built on similar principles there are. As much as i think the game would work well on pc, i dont think it'd make enough waves to be worth it, i myself can't see playing it when i can get a similar experience by just looking around for freewares on itch io or something similar

 

[BlackTron]

Sony is putting PS5 games on PC before even making enough PS5's to trick everyone into buying one first!

I wouldn't have expected Returnal to be announced for PC until after I'd had the opportunity to buy a PS5 for MSRP. Damn.

 

[SoloKingRobert]

 

[nominedomine]

how and who approves sony games for PC? i want to know so I can tell them the order 1886 NEEDS to be on PC

It hurt's me that the game flopped so hard and was rushed out of the door, the IP had so much potential.

 

[ArtHands]

Why would you? Valve hasn’t put out anything on Sony platforms since ps3 version of portal 2. They could’ve easily dumped l4d2 on modern consoles at any point and probably made a nice chunk of change. They are Atlus like in their unpredictability .

Let them beg.

 

[CamHostage]

Why would you? Valve hasn’t put out anything on Sony platforms since ps3 version of portal 2. They could’ve easily dumped l4d2 on modern consoles at any point and probably made a nice chunk of change. They are Atlus like in their unpredictability .

In the time since, Sony has put a couple shillings into Valve's pockets by porting its exclusive PlayStation games to the platform and storefront Valve operates (and almost all of their games have even been verified for Value's high-profile new handheld venture,) so, I mean, a little quid-pro-quo, why not?

(Then again, with Valve's business volume, maybe they didn't even notice Sony was in the room...)

 

[SpongebobSquaredance]

big fan of Sackboy. It's the closest thing to PS2-era Sony.

 

[Zeroing]

Where is Dreams? You dumb Sony

The problem is the engine used by the game ...

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

The problem is the engine used by the game ...

They fucked up.

 

[Wohc]

I'm gonna mod her hot before playing.

 

[Zeroing]

They fucked up.

No protecting the engine is the problem. It is an engine built in-house.

 

[Dream-Knife]

In the time since, Sony has put a couple shillings into Valve's pockets by porting its exclusive PlayStation games to the platform and storefront Valve operates (and almost all of their games have even been verified for Value's high-profile new handheld venture,) so, I mean, a little quid-pro-quo would be nice?

(Then again, with Valve's business volume, maybe they didn't even notice Sony was in the room...)

So has Microsoft.

 

[CamHostage]

So has Microsoft.

Sure. Give MS Alyx too. Not sure how that would work on HoloLens, but no need to be greedy...

(*I'm not being serious, and don't really have much faith that HL Alyx will get ported around, but it would be nice, and the walls of platform exclusivity are not as solid as they were in the past.)

 

[GHG]

Seems like these screenshots were legit in the end. The final version of sackboy seems similar enough:

Settings screenshot courtesy of Midn1ght

Returnal should get confirmed soon enough.

 

[THE DUCK]

So what are we at now, trying to think of all that's released?

Sackboy
Spiderman
Uncharted 4 plus adding (lotv collection)
God of war
Horizon zero dawn

Thats a lot of heavy hitters. 3 of the 5 biggest franchises already.

Coming Soon?
Returnal
Last of us remake
What else are we expecting?
Really the glaring omission now to me is gt7 and or ratchet?

 

[ACESHIGH]

Next in line is miles morales next month. Then returnal and last of us. I don't believe they will release other games this year unless is a game targeting x mas or something.

 

[GHG]

Next in line is miles morales next month. Then returnal and last of us. I don't believe they will release other games this year unless is a game targeting x mas or something.

Returnal will likely be March/April next year if they are sticking to the 2 years after thing.

 

[Draugoth]

So what are we at now, trying to think of all that's released?

Sackboy
Spiderman
Uncharted 4 plus adding (lotv collection)
God of war
Horizon zero dawn

Thats a lot of heavy hitters. 3 of the 5 biggest franchises already.

Coming Soon?
Returnal
Last of us remake
What else are we expecting?
Really the glaring omission now to me is gt7 and or ratchet?

Returnal and The Last of Us.

Probably we will hear more in 2023 about more titles

 

[Ozriel]

I suspect they’d want to release GT7 PC ahead of Forza next year.

 

[ACESHIGH]

I suspect they’d want to release GT7 PC ahead of Forza next year.

I want both releasing on the same day on PC.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

I suspect they’d want to release GT7 PC ahead of Forza next year.

GT7 has the potential to be huge on PC.

 

[Wastelander92]

Guessing Returnal PC will be announced at TGAs.

 

[SSfox]

I'll give Sony 1 more year. Either they go back to making real exclusives. Or i'll Switch Full PC + Nintendo Consoles.

 

[reksveks]

I'll give Sony 1 more year. Either they go back to making real exclusives. Or i'll Switch Full PC + Nintendo Consoles.

what does 'real exclusives' look like?

ps5 exclusives not on ps4?
ps5 exclusives that aren't ever coming on pc?
ps5 exclusives that aren't coming to pc 1/2 years later?

 

[SSfox]

what does 'real exclusives' look like?

ps5 exclusives not on ps4?
ps5 exclusives that aren't ever coming on pc?
ps5 exclusives that aren't coming to pc 1/2 years later?

Real exclusive means only on playstation.

Of course no Crossgen would be even better, but at least it have to PS (4, 5, or both) exclusive

 

[Midn1ght]

Real exclusive means only on playstation.

Of course no Crossgen would be even better, but at least it have to PS (4, 5, or both) exclusive

So you're gonna sell and give up on a console you're perfectly fine playing with, only because its games are getting late ports on PC?

Or maybe you're happy to move exclusively on PC, I don't know?

 

[SmokedMeat]

I don’t buy games day one, but I broke that rule with Elden Ring, and I’d break it for Returnal.

 

[SmokedMeat]

I'll give Sony 1 more year. Either they go back to making real exclusives. Or i'll Switch Full PC + Nintendo Consoles.

 

[reksveks]

Real exclusive means only on playstation.

Of course no Crossgen would be even better, but at least it have to PS (4, 5, or both) exclusive

Oh, okay so you are going the pc and Switch route then