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[SCB3]

So over the last week or so I decided to dive back into Valhalla as I only got maybe 15 hours in at launch on PS5 and after 45 Hours I'm finally at the end, oh wait:


WHAT ENDING!

Seriously the game just fizzles out and in spite of 3 separate natural conclusions that game kept going and going, and going. Why was this game so long? Every "Region" consists of you going a million miles away, find a area according to clues and then going 1000m to there, wheres the Fast Travel point you ask? 1500m in the other direction, it just lead to alot of tedious Travel time disguised as "Exploration"

The game is absolutely beautiful and plays well but my god its one of the most bloated games I've ever played and I've played Persona 5!

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Why was this game so long?

Because target demographic for games has no money, so they require 50hrs+ to generously spend their $60 on your game. Even thought they probably blow $200 a week on useless shit.

 

[phaedrus]

 

[SJRB]

This game's problem is that it has zero respect for the player's time.

Your game isn't nearly good enough to warrant a 300-hour playthrough, Ubi. After 2 hours you've seen literally everything the game has to offer - why would anyone endure another 298 hours?

Especially when the combat is shit, the stealth is poor and the story fucking sucks. Sigurd is an asshole and a gonk, fuck that guy.

I FUCKED YOUR WIFE, SIGURD. WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT

 

[CosmicComet]

It's a Ubisoft game.

 

[Saiyan-Rox]

There's a long game with good side quests that value the time you put in

And there's Valhalla

Padded out doesn't even describe the overworld of this game even the story is so fricken padded out you've to put in hours apon hours of shitty quests just to find out another decent part of the story

 

[TheDude108]

45hrs total or 45 + the initial 15?

If it was 45hrs thats pretty quick for this game.

 

[Topher]

I go into every AC game knowing it is a time sink. I don't see that as a problem myself. I think the OP's point is that the main story hangs around a bit too long. I can see that. Sometimes you think the story is over and you happy with the ending but somehow isn't over yet. That can be frustrating.

 

[AJUMP23]

I am with you, I think I completed the game but I don't know. Nothing stands out to me.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

That's how I felt playing Assassin's Creed Odyssey.
After a good few hours the map becomes littered with icons/things to do so much that it's hard to even view at a glance where you need to go. And on top of it all its the same thing repeated over and over.

No surprise they stuck with the same bloated formula Valhalla and sounds to me like they turned it all up to 11 lol.

 

[The Cockatrice]

I played like 60 hours and I still had half the regions and no DLC. Also theres also the other special story regions with Odin that also take like 30+ hours. Pretty sure the game with DLC is around 300hours. This is the only AC game I will never finish. It's a bloated piece of garbage, prolly the most bloated game ever made. I would need 4 months with no games to just sit down with it and finish it. Fuck that shit. THe story was not good at all for that time and effort nor was the gameplay.

 

[01011001]

you made it to the ending in that bore of a game? I mean, congrats I guess lol

 

[Skifi28]

I FUCKED YOUR WIFE, SIGURD. WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT

He'll send you on more useless quests for another 100 hours. Enjoy.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

45 hours mean you beelined every point in the story pretty much, that's really quick for Valhalla.
But to answer your question, they kept adding content to valhalla, so the "main story" ends with basim, every thing else after that is just the living the life of eivor.

No surprise they stuck with the same bloated formula Valhalla and sounds to me like they turned it all up to 11 lol.

They didn't, valhalla doesn't have side quests, every quest is either actually story, or a world event and they are all unique.

 

[SCB3]

45hrs total or 45 + the initial 15?

If it was 45hrs thats pretty quick for this game.

15+ 45

 

[SJRB]

He'll send you on more useless quests for another 100 hours. Enjoy.

"Eivor,

please conquer this burrow in my name by talking to this forgettable person, do four arbitrary fetch quests for this person and finally storming a castle and killing 1000 men while I fuck around and berate you, okay?

And when you're done, do the exact same thing another 43 times.

Also - be sure to build our settlement while I contribute absolutely nothing to anything.

You're like a brother to me and stuff.

- Kind regards,

Sigurd"

 

[b0uncyfr0]

Bloat to Quality ratio ...

They started well with Origins but instead of improving it, they made the same mistakes pre-origins. Fluff out the story with useless crap and less story driven moments. I dont even understand how you can sink that much time into Valhalla and enjoy it. Origins was long enough already..

 

[Bragr]

This game...

I got the "I have to do everything or else it feels like I haven't completed it" mentality to Assassin's Creed games, which makes Valhalla a nightmare to play. It's the most padded game I have ever played.

I play it for 10 hours, get sick and tired, put it down, come back 3 months later, play another 10 hours, rinse and repeat for 2 years. I'm over 100 hours in and got a long way to go.

 

[jm89]

Side story set in asgard was way more enjoyable.

I would not have minded the length if story wasn't too basic with go to this region and deal with this persons drama to gain allies and influence.

 

[Just_one]

Valhalla is without any shadow of a doubt the worst AC ever made.

Nothing made sense in the game. Eivor is not an assassin at all.
The story is horrible with only a few notes(VERY SHORT AND LITTLE) of AC lore. Dont even get me started on the modern story that since the death of Desmond in AC3 simply doesnt exist.
The side quests are boring, the collectibles are horrible and the design of them are reason enough to fire a dev team! who thought that finding keys to open doors with almost every collectible was a good idea should be fired on the spot!!

I platinum every single AC until Valhalla but i just cant do it with this one , its just a boring game.

Origins had a good balance of old AC gameplay , story , lore with new gameplay
Odyssey was when everything started to be to much but it had a very charasmatic character in Kassandra which saved the game for me and the world while gigantic was very detailed and beautiful. each region was different from each other which lead to good exploration.
Valhalla is just a horrible game start to finish!

 

[SCB3]

I would not have minded the length if story wasn't too basic with go to this region and deal with this persons drama to gain allies and influence.

The thing is I don't even know why I'm doing that, to fight King Aelfred? I think? but the game just fizzles out, no ending at all

 

[gaming_again]

I mean, surely you know what you’re getting when you boot up a game like this?

 

[SJRB]

Valhalla is without any shadow of a doubt the worst AC ever made.

Nothing made sense in the game. Eivor is not an assassin at all.
The story is horrible with only a few notes(VERY SHORT AND LITTLE) of AC lore. Dont even get me started on the modern story that since the death of Desmond in AC3 simply doesnt exist.
The side quests are boring, the collectibles are horrible and the design of them are reason enough to fire a dev team! who thought that finding keys to open doors with almost every collectible was a good idea should be fired on the spot!!

I platinum every single AC until Valhalla but i just cant do it with this one , its just a boring game.

Origins had a good balance of old AC gameplay , story , lore with new gameplay
Odyssey was when everything started to be to much but it had a very charasmatic character in Kassandra which saved the game for me and the world while gigantic was very detailed and beautiful. each region was different from each other which lead to good exploration.
Valhalla is just a horrible game start to finish!

Whichever developer thought it was a good idea to have

- an infinitely large skill tree with absolutely meaningless stat boosts like "0.12 dodge roll" WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN
- skill tree hidden under fog so you never know what you're working towards
- every skill develops in every direction so say you want to focus on stealth or whatever you can't just pick a "stealth" path but you have to follow all branches to all sides

shouldn't just get fired and banned from videogame development forever but should be hunted in the streets.

Or what about the person who decided it was a good idea to give this massive game only like 5 different weapons?

I just can't believe how a game developed bij 5000 people has so many stupid elements. What the fuck were they thinking?

 

[The_Mike]

I recently completed odyssey after 136 hours and I enjoyed it.

Will probably do the same when Valhalla hits gamepass.

 

[Just_one]

I recently completed odyssey after 136 hours and I enjoyed it.

Will probably do the same when Valhalla hits gamepass.

Odyssey is awesome! i´ve putted around the same hours into it.

Valhalla is a very different game believe me...

 

[Just_one]

Whichever developer thought it was a good idea to have

- an infinitely large skill tree with absolutely meaningless stat boosts like "0.12 dodge roll" WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN
- skill tree hidden under fog so you never know what you're working towards
- every skill develops in every direction so say you want to focus on stealth or whatever you can't just pick a "stealth" path but you have to follow all branches to all sides

shouldn't just get fired and banned from videogame development forever but should be hunted in the streets.

Or what about the person who decided it was a good idea to give this massive game only like 5 different weapons?

I just can't believe how a game developed bij 5000 people has so many stupid elements. What the fuck were they thinking?

yeah i forgot about the skill tree...another absolute mess

 

[The_Mike]

Odyssey is awesome! i´ve putted around the same hours into it.

Valhalla is a very different game believe me...

Damn sad to hear that.

What can you expect from a company, that got its history for odyssey from the movie 300 and the history in Valhalla from the Vikings show.

 

[kikkis]

How does this compare to immortals fenyx rising?

 

[Certinty]

One of the worst games I’ve played these last few years. Somehow put 40 hours into it and just gave up since every area was doing the same shit again and again. Most repetitive huge game I’ve played. Origins and Odyssey were both bloated but this was 10x more bloated. Well done, Ubi.

 

[TheShocker]

Valhalla is a great game imo, but a terrible Assassins Creed game.

I’m 70+ hours in and am at what I think is the end game….except I have no idea what’s going on from a plot standpoint. The individual stories of each region are pretty cool, but outside of a handful of cutscenes, none of it connects.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Damn sad to hear that.

What can you expect from a company, that got its history for odyssey from the movie 300 and the history in Valhalla from the Vikings show.

Don't be, Valhalla is objectively better than Odyssey, you might not like the setting or characters as much, but gameplay wise it's a massive improvement; going back to origins has become impossible for me, and the last time I went back to Odyssey I was missing so much from valhalla.

 

[The Cockatrice]

I recently completed odyssey after 136 hours and I enjoyed it.

Will probably do the same when Valhalla hits gamepass.

Sorry to inform you but ACOdyssey is peak AC since AC2/4. Valhalla is 3 times more bloated than Odyssey and enjoy wearing the same armor and weapons half the game because for some FUCKED UP reason they decided to make the world bigger and more bloated but simplified and removed the looting aspect of it. Now you rarely find good stuff to wear but can opt to upgrade it 5 times or something with shit scattered around the whole map. I'd rather visit locations and find some legendary weapon or some good random shit in an open world rpg rather than forcing me to use the same axe the moment I started the game because all the other weapons were shit. The skill tree is so bad, just read some above posts why. The combat is more brutal but it also feels janky/heavier rather than how fluid Odyssey felt. Exploration may seem more interesting at first because the side quests are just simple weird/random encounters which will be funny but at the end of the day even that gets bloated. Main story is useless as shit.

 

[j0hnnix]

So over the last week or so I decided to dive back into Valhalla as I only got maybe 15 hours in at launch on PS5 and after 45 Hours I'm finally at the end, oh wait:


WHAT ENDING!

Seriously the game just fizzles out and in spite of 3 separate natural conclusions that game kept going and going, and going. Why was this game so long? Every "Region" consists of you going a million miles away, find a area according to clues and then going 1000m to there, wheres the Fast Travel point you ask? 1500m in the other direction, it just lead to alot of tedious Travel time disguised as "Exploration"

The game is absolutely beautiful and plays well but my god its one of the most bloated games I've ever played and I've played Persona 5!

Probably the worst AC game, but also the most time I had invested in an AC game.. great game should have never been part of the AC universe.. just it's own thing.

 

[mitch1971]

I FUCKED YOUR WIFE, SIGURD. WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT

I see no vagina icon on my map!

 

[drganon]

Orgins was awesome, odyssey was decent but flawed and valhalla was garbage.

 

[R6Rider]

Origin, Odyssey, and Valhalla all have the same problem. They are terrible AC games and overly bloated.

 

[Pelta88]

Downloaded Valhalla and couldn't make it past the first 45 mins.

The truest definition of uninspired garbage imo.

 

[The_Mike]

Don't be, Valhalla is objectively better than Odyssey, you might not like the setting or characters as much, but gameplay wise it's a massive improvement; going back to origins has become impossible for me, and the last time I went back to Odyssey I was missing so much from valhalla.

I love ancient Greece and its mythology, but I was sad over Ubisoft getting their history from the movie 300 and haven't properly dugged down in the real history.

I like viking era, since I am from Scandinavia. But it seems like Ubisoft just watched vikings and thought that's how it is. The viking king was in Denmark, yet AFAIK its not even a part of the game.

Sorry to inform you but ACOdyssey is peak AC since AC2/4. Valhalla is 3 times more bloated than Odyssey and enjoy wearing the same armor and weapons half the game because for some FUCKED UP reason they decided to make the world bigger and more bloated but simplified and removed the looting aspect of it. Now you rarely find good stuff to wear but can opt to upgrade it 5 times or something with shit scattered around the whole map. I'd rather visit locations and find some legendary weapon or some good random shit in an open world rpg rather than forcing me to use the same axe the moment I started the game because all the other weapons were shit. The skill tree is so bad, just read some above posts why. The combat is more brutal but it also feels janky/heavier rather than how fluid Odyssey felt. Exploration may seem more interesting at first because the side quests are just simple weird/random encounters which will be funny but at the end of the day even that gets bloated. Main story is useless as shit.

So they removed the gear loot aspect and you are just upgrading your gear by finding mats? Sounds really wack and a boring way to gate your gear and level behind.

 

[Fredrik]

Didn’t feel like an Assassin’s Creed game to me. The stealth is mostly broken and they could’ve called it just Valhalla instead and start a new IP for those who like vikings. Hopefully they’re back on track again with the next Assassin’s Creed.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

So they removed the gear loot aspect and you are just upgrading your gear by finding mats? Sounds really wack and a boring way to gate your gear and level behind.

Yes, because people complained about the loot overload in odyssey, every 5 seconds you'd have 10 more loot drops like you're playing borderlands.
This also means there's no actual "level/gear" gating anymore, you'll naturally level up as you play the story and there's still a lot of different gear to find, it just doesn't drop randomly from enemies, so there's no inventory management anymore.

And even more against the level gating goes the fact that valhalla is the only one of the three that has guaranteed assassination, like the older games; fairly certain I played ~90% of the game in stealth, something completely impossible in origins(hard level gating) and odyssey(require level+assassin rating).

 

[EverydayBeast]

Ubisoft had a lot of fat to trim on the assassins creed games but don’t.

 

[TheGodfather07]

Its problem is that its made by ubisoft.

 

[GymWolf]

Lol how much time do you have??

The game is even worse than the already bloated to death odissey.

 

[Fbh]

Games like Valhalla are the end result of a lot of buyers seeing length as the main source of value from a game.
Doesn't matter if it runs out of enemy and mission variety after 20 hours and they just have you doing the same thing over and over. As long as there's 60 hours of the same repetitive stuff it's giving you a bang for your buck!!!.

 

[remember_spinal]

Caters to a fan base that cries that callisto and ragnarok are only 15-20 hours and not worth 60/70 dollars.

So they make these bloated fake rpg games that take 100 hours to finish and that same fan base only plays for 20-25 hours and gives up on them anyways. I’ve never met someone that saw the end credits on Valhalla

 

[lughnasadh123]

Seems to be working for them. Complaining about a long AC game these days is like complaining about a souls game being difficult, a rogue-lite being repetitive, or a JRPG full of angtsy anime teens. Ya know what you're getting into and those that do generally like what it's offering.

 

[Oberstein]

And to think that people were excited to see Darby McDevitt back in the writing room... it was just awful.

The game looked great, the scenery was detailed, the music was top notch, and the choice of Vikings spoke to me... and yet, I really felt like I was wasting my time.

 

[The Cockatrice]

So they removed the gear loot aspect and you are just upgrading your gear by finding mats? Sounds really wack and a boring way to gate your gear and level behind.

The gear you find is still around the map and some may say that having much less more focused gear based on how you design your character is better but considering how large Valhalla is, it gets very boring. I liked the loot in Odyssey, I liked maybe going in the water to find some legendary axe that has some unique stats and whatnot. Now exploring you gain upgrade parts for the gear you have. Exploration for me has to be rewarding, find gold and wood or whatever the fuck is not rewarding at all. They did manage to make some visual changes to the few armor sets you have so gotta give them that at least. And yes if you dont upgrade the shit you wear, you're being heavily nerfed which means youa re forced to explore the map for the mats. You ofc have to upgrade the settlement as well if you want better skills for example, WORSE you dont get all the skills either, YUP you find them scattered around the world, in boxes or w/e.

 

[Fahdis]

Valhallah is a better game than Odyssey in every way. Its a completionist game and doesn't reward casuals. I believe UBI figured out that alot of their fanbase is into customization (MTX) and living a long fantasy hence the bloat. But it does many things better than Odyssey.

The Cons
- Cannon Female Eivor is worse than Connor and Arno as far as Protags are concerned.
- Skill Tree is mostly useless.
- Parkour simulation has jank.

The Pros
- Each region has a set amount of discoveries, side missions, precious metals and a Story alongside the main one (this respects the player's time even though its level gated).
- Playing the game at the lowest difficulty is fun enough and seems to understand you are mostly in it for the story.
- Armor can be upgraded as long as you have invested in cleaning up the map icons which is fair but on lower difficulties you can still steam roll through the game in your main Crow armor.
- Combat is way way better.
- No trash looting crap every 5 seconds like in Odyssey.

 

[Nitty_Grimes]

You can fuck off balancing stones while you're at it too.