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[Robbinhood]

I picked it up after shelving it at launch. Im having fun, you can tell a lot went into the game, like the story missions are pretty long and well developed. The world is not as impressive as they made it out to be though I do give it props for being a completely fictitious futuristic city. I love originality.

I can't say I play the game the way those above videos show, that looks like an entirely different experience than the boring shootbang way I play. I need to gitgud.

I haven't even visited a ripperdoc in 25 hours lol.

 

[Guilty_AI]

I can't say I play the game the way those above videos show, that looks like an entirely different experience than the boring shootbang way I play. I need to gitgud.

I haven't even visited a ripperdoc in 25 hours lol.

Game isn't very punishing with character build. If you put your points in whatever and don't get/upgrade any cyberware its still possible to get through it, especially on difficulties that aren't the highest one and with how easy it is to just auto/quicksave your way through problems.

 

[Pelta88]

I haven't followed the hype and always see this lies thing being throw around. But whenever i try to look into what they lied so much about all i get are either nitpicks about minor mechanical changes or very personal interpretations on vague statements like "the city is alive!".

Serious question. What did they really lie about? Afaik they promised a witcher 3-like game and thats what they delivered pretty much.

Pretty standard really.

They presented CGI and called it gameplay. For me personally, and once that outright lie happens, I'm out. Ubisoft hasn't had my custom for year because of this very deceptive practice.

 

[Guilty_AI]

They presented CGI and called it gameplay.

I know they had CGI trailers, but when did they call it gameplay?

 

[Pelta88]

I know they had CGI trailers, but when did they call it gameplay?

I don't remember the exact trailer but Youtube will have the footage.

 

[Guilty_AI]

I don't remember the exact trailer but Youtube will have the footage.

You have to give something more specific mate, i don't remember seeing any CGI trailers having "in-game footage" or anything of the sort.

 

[sendit]

Pretty standard really.

They presented CGI and called it gameplay. For me personally, and once that outright lie happens, I'm out. Ubisoft hasn't had my custom for year because of this very deceptive practice.

They never did.

This is the 2018 trailer:


This is the 2018 gameplay trailer:


This is a comparison between 2018 gameplay trailer and retail release:

 

[Pelta88]

You have to give something more specific mate, i don't remember seeing any CGI trailers having "in-game footage" or anything of the sort.

I remember being in tune and then tuning out once the actual gameplay dropped. I haven't got a specific date but it's really well know and recent gaming history. What CDPR showcased wasn't actual gameplay hence the well known debacle. If you want to get real specific hit the search function, or reddit, or youtube.

 

[Ma-Yuan]

I finished the PS4 on launch on my ps5 it crashed about every 45min but I still had a lot of fun so well deserved after it's fixed now.

 

[Guilty_AI]

I remember being in tune and then tuning out once the actual gameplay dropped. I haven't got a specific date but it's really well know and recent gaming history.

If its so well know and recent why can't i find it?

What CDPR showcased wasn't actual gameplay hence the well known debacle. If you want to get real specific hit the search function, or reddit, or youtube.

Got nothing. At most the 48 minute gameplay showcase which looks worse than the final game.

 

[Laptop1991]

I got the game cheap only 2 months after it came out, (last time i bought a new game at present), and i haven't completed it yet, i haven't even done half, once the patch comes out that fixes the police spawning and chases, i will replay it and complete the game, at least they are fixing it over time, unlike Rockstar.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

Got nothing. At most the 48 minute gameplay showcase which looks worse than the final game.

This was bullshit:

 

[Guilty_AI]

This was bullshit:

"game engine footage". And the game does have these visuals, just not these specific scenes, which is probably why they called "game engine footage".

 

[MidGenRefresh]

"game engine footage". And the game does have these visuals, just not these specific scenes, which is probably why they called "game engine footage".

No, it does not. Listen, I love this game but it does not look like in that trailer (I play on 3080). Lighting, animations, asset quality, everything in this trailer is above what we got in the final product. Not to mention that not a single scene is present.

 

[Roni]

The trick to solve all of this, at least on our end, is stop pre-ordering games and buying into hype. It's so easy to wait a few days and check reviews. People are so worried about missing out.

FOMO is wielded as a weapon against consumers nowadays.

I can't say I play the game the way those above videos show, that looks like an entirely different experience than the boring shootbang way I play.

That's the value of the game, you can play it in several different ways. As an RPG is supposed to play...

 

[Guilty_AI]

No, it does not. Listen, I love this game but it does not look like in that trailer (I play on 3080). Lighting, animations, asset quality, everything in this trailer is above what we got in the final product. Not to mention that not a single scene is present.

I don't know what to say then. Asset quality, lightining, even the skybox looks similar to me.
Its really just thes scenes that aren't present (thus why they probably decided to call it "game engine footage", game still was full 2 years away after all). Are you sure you're not just mixing graphics with photography?

 

[sendit]

First of all, you only unlock all possible endings in a single playthrough if you have the completionist mindset - at which point roleplaying is out the window, if you look up a guide or if you fall into the 5% of players that will naturally do it.

Secondly, the choices you make definitely matter: choosing not to help someone locks you out of possible outcomes, but not only that, the endings change the outcome of the world around you completely,

Finally, way to miss the mark: the original post I was answering to was about gameplay. Not story... The core of my message was towards the fact the game's not just a shooter. It can be played as a stealth operative, a hacker, a brawler, melee fighter or as a shooter.

No, I think you missed your own point. Your argument was this individual had to play the game multiple times to experience everything the game has to offer, which is untrue. You can get all endings through a single play through. You can spec/respec builds through a single play through. The only differentiating factor is the starting point, which absolutely makes no difference in the overall outcome.

The one thing this game has going for is the cyberpunk experience/setting in a open world rpg game. There really isn't nothing else like it on the market.

 

[Vick]

I'd love to finally try it as Witcher 3 is one of my all times fav, but my only experience with the game has been the free trial on PS5 and I just couldn't believe how shitty the game felt to control. Input latency was beyond awful for a first person game and shooting felt really bad.
I would imagine this hasn't been fixed?

I'd go for PC since I think it fares better there, but then I wouldn't settle for anything less than full RT at 4K/60fps given how stunning the game could look there, and in order to achieve this I would need to massively upgrade and it's not the time yet.

Ironic

Well, that's possibly the most polished game ever to be fair.

Really?

I mean, come on.. is it really this hard to have police driving vehicles or let NPC simply fucking die for staying under a car? This shit is depressing.

 

[OZ9000]

"game engine footage". And the game does have these visuals, just not these specific scenes, which is probably why they called "game engine footage".

It's CG brah.

 

[Roni]

No, I think you missed your own point. Your argument was this individual had to play the game multiple times to experience everything the game has to offer, which is untrue. You can get all endings through a single play through. You can spec/respec builds through a single play through. The only differentiating factor is the starting point, which absolutely makes no difference in the overall outcome.

Did you play the game sweetheart? You can't respec attribute points.

 

[Guilty_AI]

It's CG brah.

Technically every game is CG brah. It was rendered with the game engine, and its pretty obvious when you look at the assets and lightining.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

I don't know what to say then. Asset quality, lightining, even the skybox looks similar to me.
Its really just thes scenes that aren't present (thus why they probably decided to call it "game engine footage", game still was full 2 years away after all). Are you sure you're not just mixing graphics with photography?

You can't possibly be serious.

This is how game ACTUALLY looked in August 2019:

Yet somehow in 2018 it looked like this:

 

[Pelta88]

I don't know what to say then. Asset quality, lightining, even the skybox looks similar to me.
Its really just thes scenes that aren't present (thus why they probably decided to call it "game engine footage", game still was full 2 years away after all). Are you sure you're not just mixing graphics with photography?

It wasn't until I read this post that I realized you're just defending the game. Unfortunately, the CDPR Gameplay/In engine vs actual gameplay debacle can't be argued out of existence. CDPR's numerous apologies, admittance of what went wrong, gamers reactions, and how their stock price was affected is documented and can't be undone. CP2077 is one of gaming biggest debacles.

Worse than Watchdogs 1's CG/In Engine vs Gameplay. Probably on par or worse than Battlefront 2's Pay 2 Win.

Just say "You" like the game and "You think it isn't that bad. in it's current state" Trying to re-write history by questioning something us gamers lived through is weird as hell and overtly disingenuous.

 

[Guilty_AI]

It wasn't until I read this post that I realized you're just defending the game. Unfortunately, the CDPR Gameplay/In engine vs actual gameplay debacle can't be argued out of existence. CDPR's numerous apologies, admittance of what went wrong, gamers reactions, and how their stock price was affected is documented and can't be undone. CP2077 is one of gaming biggest debacles.

Worse than Watchdogs 1's CG/In Engine vs Gameplay. Probably on par or worse than Battlefront 2's Pay 2 Win.

Just say "You" like the game and "You think it isn't that bad. in it's current state" Trying to re-write history by questioning something us gamers lived through is weird as hell and overtly disingenuous.

I've made plenty of criticisms for this game, and i'm especially critical of their previous game, TW3. But amost all the criticism i see of this online almost never matches with reality.

And just because some debacle 'exists', it doesn't prove any of your points.

 

[FireFly]

It's CG brah.

Did they say it was in-game? Looks like a typical "target render" to me.

 

[Pelta88]

I've made plenty of criticisms for this game, and i'm especially critical of their previous game, TW3. But amost all the criticism i see of this online almost never matches with reality.

And just because some debacle 'exists', it doesn't prove any of your points.

MidGenRefresh Already put it succinctly in his last post.

"You can't possibly be serious."

And I refuse to debate facts with you.

 

[R6Rider]

There's people actually defending CDPR when they straight up lied and mislead people.

Enjoying the game is fine, but damn.

 

[twilo99]

It sounds like its definitely a game worth playing on gamepass..

 

[Kagero]

Proof that the nerds on here and on the internet are simply just a very vocal minority.

 

[Pelta88]

There's people actually defending CDPR when they straight up lied and mislead people.

Enjoying the game is fine, but damn.

I've seen some strange things on gaf. But this is the first time I've seen someone trying to thoroughly re-write our own gaming history.

Dude in here asking for proof CDPR lied to us.

My finger is hovering over the block button.

 

[sendit]

Did you play the game sweetheart? You can't respec attribute points.

Hey Sweet cheeks. You're right, its limited to perks (I was using a mod). Regardless, remind me how the overall arching story changes if you spec differently?

 

[sendit]

It sounds like its definitely a game worth playing on gamepass..

Definitely Gamepass material as you can experience everything the game has to offer in one play through.

 

[Guilty_AI]

MidGenRefresh Already put it succinctly in his last post.

"You can't possibly be serious."

And I refuse to debate facts with you.

You can't possibly be serious.

This is how game ACTUALLY looked in August 2019:

Yet somehow in 2018 it looked like this:

And this is how the actual game looks like.

Ray Tracing off, 1440p, high settings. On a GTX 1660 S

 

[Roni]

Hey Sweet cheeks. You're right, its limited to perks (I was using a mod). Regardless, remind me how the overall arching story changes if you spec differently?

Finally, way to miss the mark: the original post I was answering to was about gameplay. Not story... The core of my message was towards the fact the game's not just a shooter. It can be played as a stealth operative, a hacker, a brawler, melee fighter or as a shooter.

 

[Flabagast]

And this is how the actual game looks like.

Ray Tracing off, 1440p, high settings. On a GTX 1660 S

Marvelous

 

[OZ9000]

My biggest issue with Cyberpunk is that there are far, far too many quests. It's becoming very repetitive. Most of these quests are an absolute slog.

 

[Roni]

My biggest issue with Cyberpunk is that there are far, far too many quests. It's becoming very repetitive. Most of these quests are an absolute slog.

You're neither obligated nor encouraged to complete all quests in one playthrough. It doesn't even make sense if you're roleplaying: many quests directly collide with each other ideologically.

Save some for a different character, with a different playstyle. Some of the old quests you've already completed should also feel fresher, since you can play many of the quests in different ways.

 

[twilo99]

Definitely Gamepass material as you can experience everything the game has to offer in one play through.

are you being sarcastic? I thought this game had multiple different endings and such..

 

[sendit]

My biggest issue with Cyberpunk is that there are far, far too many quests. It's becoming very repetitive. Most of these quests are an absolute slog.

The most annoy thing about replaying Cyberpunk is the brain dance segments. Literally on rails segments that add nothing to the gameplay. Just make it a cutscene.

 

[Roni]

are you being sarcastic? I thought this game had multiple different endings and such..

Just trolling, he's already admitted you can't engage with all playstyles in a single playthrough, then proceeded to reiterate that nonsense right after.

 

[Guilty_AI]

The most annoy thing about replaying Cyberpunk is the brain dance segments. Literally on rails segments that add nothing to the gameplay. Just make it a cutscene.

And this my friends is what actual and constructive criticism looks like. Agreed, i understand why they put them there, but are really an annoyance for 2nd playthroughs forward and don't add anything gameplay-wise, especially when all clues are highlighted for you.

 

[Neolombax]

Just recently bought the game on sale, after uodate 1.6 dropped. Im very happy with the performance on ps5. Ive been enjoying my time with it, my only complaint is the aiming is quite wonky with the controller. But its an rpg not an fps so i give it a pass. The world has been very interesting to explore and experience.

 

[sendit]

are you being sarcastic? I thought this game had multiple different endings and such..

It does. However, all endings are available through a single play through.

Just trolling, he's already admitted you can't engage with all playstyles in a single playthrough, then proceeded to reiterate that nonsense right after.

Changing your build does nothing for the story/ending.

And this my friends is what actual and constructive criticism looks like. Agreed, i understand why they put them there, but are really an annoyance for 2nd playthroughs forward and don't add anything gameplay-wise, especially when all clues are highlighted for you.

Wouldn't mind it as much if they allowed fast forwarding of the dialog.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Wouldn't mind it as much if they allowed fast forwarding of the dialog.

well, you can just rush through all the clues which is something i guess

It does. However, all endings are available through a single play through.

While true, theres still tons of missable side-content, some with storylines of their own, and different romances. Some of the unlockable ending paths are also missable, like if you don't save takemura

But generally speaking, if you just want to beat the game and be done with it, yeah, one playthrough is enough.

 

[Skifi28]

my only complaint is the aiming is quite wonky with the controller.

They fucked up the default controls, there's some very intrusive acceleration that ruins aiming. Thankfully you can tweak them to your liking and make it behave like any other fps. Just search online for configs, it plays great after 5 minutes of fiddling in the options.

 

[Roni]

Changing your build does nothing for the story/ending.

Playstyles are unrelated to story, and yet part of what the game has to offer.

 

[Three]

Redemption ?

That sold 45M copies

 

[Isendurl]

I've seen some strange things on gaf. But this is the first time I've seen someone trying to thoroughly re-write our own gaming history.

Dude in here asking for proof CDPR lied to us.

My finger is hovering over the block button.

Not trying to defend CDPR, but that guy asked you about proof that they lied, you could not provide any evidence, and then you just said "I don't have to prove anything because its just a fact" and as a cherry on top, now you are threatening to block him.

This might be one of the most pathetic displays I ever saw on any forum and I was on Resetera once.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

And this is how the actual game looks like.

Ray Tracing off, 1440p, high settings. On a GTX 1660 S

I know how the game looks like. It looks amazing and better than in your screenshots, that's for sure. Still, it's nowhere close to that render from 2018.

Lighting, materials, textures, object complexity, character models, animations. All is better.

 

[kubricks]

Well congrats I guess.
Completed it back at launch, it was a good game but it wasn't what it was originally promised or advertised.

Now that people forgot about their lies, the game become good again in the eye of the public.

I have such mixed emotion about this.