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All-new PlayStation Plus launches in June with three flexible membership options
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I was using some numbers based off comments on the gi biz articles, happy to quickly change it if you are interested
Swift_Star
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It doesn't need to have... Sony games don't need to be put on a subscription to be sold or played, same as Nintendo games.
Analysts fail to understand this simple fact.
Analysts fail to understand this simple fact.
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SegaSnatcher
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340 PS1, PS2, PSP and PS3 games combined seems rather low, even if you only cherry pick the top games.
Best case scenario would be 80 games available per classic console library, but its not likely going to be divided up evenly.
Best case scenario would be 80 games available per classic console library, but its not likely going to be divided up evenly.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Maybe for live-service games. But that's all.
wvnative
Member
There is currently no evidence to suggest they aren't buyable individually.
Neofire
Member
Sony has been doing just fine with releasing good games and people buying them. I think they will be just fine.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
This
balls of snow
Member
So time limited demo. Could be cool for a holistic approach to the library and not just 1st party. That 5 hour cyberpunk demo is a good example and roped in a few people to buy in eventually.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
One of the reasons why Microsoft put first party games on Gamepass day one is because the majority of them just were not pulling in numbers like PlayStation and Nintendo games. When most of your first party offerings sell millions of units each time, you don’t need to put them on a subscription service because people are willing to pay good money for them.
Imho, putting Sony’s first party games would be crazy because I’m assuming they will lose a ton of money off them and I’m sure they are very expensive to create. Maybe they’ll come later, but day one wouldn’t make sense financially.
Imho, putting Sony’s first party games would be crazy because I’m assuming they will lose a ton of money off them and I’m sure they are very expensive to create. Maybe they’ll come later, but day one wouldn’t make sense financially.
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Zeroing
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We gonna need a dedicated thread in communities to stop all this tiered PS+ thread clutter.
kingfey
Banned
PS sales is due to userbase numbers.
Xbox has half of Ps userbase. Yet, Halo 5 sold 9.5m.
That is almost 19m copies, if they had Sony userbase.
Its not because their games don't sell well.
TheAmazingSpiderMan
Member
Meh nothing really for me but good on those whove Been dying for ps, ps2, ps3 games to play. Also, anyone with half a brain would tell u this isn’t a competitor to gamepass lol, and the day 1 releases being on this services wouldn’t work, if you had a working brain with an ounce of common sense you’d know Sony are in no position to do that as they don’t have the luxury of Microsoft‘s monopoly of money.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Yeah but they only want these for people paying $18 / month because I am pretty sure overall the industry sees demos as a negative for sales.
Targeting only those willing to pay the most, targets the wealthier gamers who aren't trying to squeeze value out of their console w/ demos and F2P games. Kids/teens/otherwise poor people are not allowed lol
Hobbygaming
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I say good. The big budget games that Sony makes would see a reduction in funding if they were day one on a low cost service
Raphael
Member
What do you disagree here with? A similar service with day 1 releases will have a much easier time bringing in new customers.
I actually went with xbox due to game pass as it was way more value. Havw 2 friends who did the same. All 3 of us were ps4 last gen.
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Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Yeaha bit of a no brainer. It'd benefit Destiny with how much of a mess it is trying to buy the right content when you come back from a break
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
I see what you did. My favorite post of the day.We gonna need a dedicated thread in communities to stop all this tiered PS+ thread clutter.
SegaSnatcher
Member
Honestly the only reason to really want a PS3 is to play Metal Gear Solid 4. Is there any other AAA games locked on PS3 hardware? Konami needs to port that game already.
Hobbygaming
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Not many others on the platform have sold like Halo 5 though
TheGodfather07
Member
If it was easy, they would have done it already. Its disappointing but understandable. Nobody expected it but we were hoping. Downloads for the other legacy consoles is good though and hopefully Sony will allow individual purchases through the store eventually.
I second this theory on how demos are viewed.
kingfey
Banned
Because the numbers make it that way.
4m on xbox is like 8m sales for PS.
Yeah, matt from the NPD group did say that aaa publishers generally don't like these demos.
I am interested to see how wide spread they actually are.
Swift_Star
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I'm already seeing nonsense comparisons ITT. This discussion is already over.
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Papacheeks
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Did some quick whatifs on possible revenue increase.
Doing gods work,
thanks for actually contributing to the thread instead of just plain shitting on it.
Appreciate the actual effort you put in on sales threads as well. Regardless if I disagree with you or not.
akaFullmetal
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I think Sony will be successful enough to pull more people from normal psplus to premium and will offer a fair amount of newer games from some being 1st day, some 3-6 months after release and so on. If it's worth it people will continue to sub and Sony will make way more money than what psnow is pulling in, which I assume they wanted that at least.
Lukaku's First Touch
Member
It's true.
bender
What time is it?
While I understand and never expected day and date for 1st party titles as they sell too well to be included and it's always easier to walk something forward than walk something back, the new tiers are a weird proposition if you've been in Sony's ecosystem for a while. At least for me, I've played all of the 1st party back catalog I'm interested in which means the service will only be attractive based on the quality of the 3rd party offerings. And while the PSOne, PS2, PSP stuff has some interest to me, that tier is too expensive for my tastes. I think it would have been a better decision to only offer Extra/Premium in a single tier at $14.99 per month and then discount that for regions that aren't available for streaming.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Wait, PS+ is NOT as attractive as GamePass?!
I would like to see constant and wide spread consumer behaviour surveys on this topic.
Suspect you would like to split out the audience.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
I doubt it since Jim Ryan sees Live service games as targeting folks who just want to play the one game.
I've been saying the same thing for months here; people misunderstand the relationship between GAAS and sub services.
They think Gamepass encouraged live service when it doesn't really make sense..
The industry sees live service games as a way to maximize profit off of gamers who like to get into one game, replacing the traditional MMO "monthly fee" model with DLC/battle passes/etc. that are near guarantees of recurring revenue. Their focus on that one game encourages them to buy game currency/whatever.
Game sub services on the other hand exist to satisfy gamers who want a variety of games. The polar opposite of really the concept of GAAS where you can kind of "fall behind" if you aren't focused on one/two games.
We'll see I guess. Not like Sony is jumping big into F2P or anything.. they still want people paying $70 for access to their GAAS games and then buying MTX/etc.. and are increasing playerbase by making them PC/console/mobile not "included in a sub."
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EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
PS Plus tiers is Sony acknowledging Game Pass.
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
Yeah I think this kind of thing may be the path (or it should). I have given up trying to keep up with all the various expansions and get pissed off that they remove content paid for, so including it in PS+ may make it more accessible in that sense.
Astral Dog
Member
And it doesn't need to if their big hitters still sell millions on day one, that would mean burning too much money to 'compete' with Microsoft
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jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
340 retro games probably means 300 PS3 games and 15 games each of PS1 and PS2, and 10 PSP games.
There are currently 418 PS3 games on Now. I'm guessing they'll slim that down by chucking out the cross gen PS3 / PS4 games or games that got remasters. But I bet that the lion's share of those games will be PS3.
onesvenus
Member
I can agree with this. They are more consistent. Saying that Xbox don't have enough quality on their internal studios is what made me lol
Plantoid
Member
Choose Xbox solely because of gamepass, was previously a PC player focused on MMOs