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[Dibils2k]

i would hope this would mean a PS5 update for the game! would love a bump to 4k

 

[Brofist]

Nice. The only one I haven't played is 4, which seems to get mixed reviews, but I'll definitely play though it.

 

[Bulletbrain]

Absolutely amazing news for PC gamers, if true. Still not 100 percent sold on that image however.

 

[Holammer]

Why is there a PlayStation logo in the announcement of the PC version? Why is the SIE logo nowhere to be seen?

What is that screenshot even supposed to come from? It's dated 6 September and it looks like a Tweet, but it's obviously impossible it is one?

If it just says "available", it strongly implies that picture is supposed to be released when the games are already out. So you think they will be out in 5 days from now, with zero heads-up?

They somehow forgot to remove the PlayStation logo?

PC releases & marketing etc of PS games do include Playstation logos, it's one of the first thing you see booting up Days Gone. But it's the wrong one in the picture, that's the blue PS4 trade dress & not the new black & white version. If that's an oversight from Sony marketing or a 4chan troll remains to be seen. The 6th September date might indicate a scheduled tweet waiting to get published. The "available" bit? Maybe they do a Halo Collection and roll out a new game to the collection every xx days till December?
While we know Uncharted *IS* coming to PC in some form, it does look a little bit suspect. Then again, the uncharted movie is coming first quarter 2022 so they need to build hype for audiences unfamiliar with the series.

We'll know next week if this is true.

 

[Guilty_AI]

ehhhhh, i'll pass

 

[Guilty_AI]

One day Sony will port a good game to the PC.

they barely ported their good games to the ps4

 

[HTK]

This is great news and way overdue.

 

[Von Hugh]

Imagine being hurt that more gamers are able to enjoy these games

Why are you upset over PS games coming to PC?

 

[T-Cake]

This does make sense from a logical point of view. Why would Sony release Uncharted 4 - the last episode of Nathan Drake - and expect pure PC players to know everything that has gone on before? That would be odd (and a bit stupid).

 

[Bojanglez]

Doubtful, when horizon came out on pc it ran with higher res textures and better frame rate and ps5 only just got a 60fps mode not the higher textures, days gone only got 60fps, where pc got higher textures as well, although knowing sony there could be a £10 upgrade for 60fps, dual sense support, and 3d audio

I'd be happy with either option. If they put the work in to improve textures, add dualsense support and give me whole new trophy lists for each game I'd happily pay (for the 3rd time).

 

[Ezquimacore]

So on PC now we can play Zelda, uncharted, and halo. Nice.

 

[DenchDeckard]

They gotta patch uncharted 4 and lost legacy for ps5 surely? Please do not release this on ps5 as a full priced product and make everyone have to buy them again. That would be a Nintendo move lol.

Will pick it up cheap on pc though. I wanna see uncharted 4 at 60 fps.

 

[Bryank75]

Imagine being hurt that more gamers are able to enjoy these games


Why are you upset over PS games coming to PC?

Many reasons, the industry is becoming so homogeneous and boring due to the lack of exclusives.

Exclusives are PlayStations biggest strength and now they are giving them away, this is an indicator that competition has failed and that Sony no longer feel compelled to provide compelling exclusive content.

For instance, we lost MLB exclusivity, Mm is not making new exclusives, we lost access to Zenimax games in the future and several studios were downsized or shuttered.
The response to these losses has not been to buy a few or even many talented studios to compensate PS customers but to give away the remaining exclusives we have...... despite the fact we are paying MORE now than ever and Sony are more profitable than they have ever been.

Meanwhile we have to look at Xbox buying every damned studio they can get their hands on.

Nintendo NEVER put their games on PC and reinforced the mental connection between Mario, Zelda and their other franchises and their consoles.... they started by bundling Mario bros with every Nes, then the 3rd game sold 17 million on its own. Now it sells 40+ million and moves hardware.....unfortunately PlayStation management never had the patience and never provided the proper marketing to make such an impact.

Now Horizon is just a multiplat.... the prestige is gone.
Limiting access and making these games a privilege of buying into PlayStation hardware gives these games prestige and increases their perceived value. Putting them on PC, does the opposite.

 

[Mahavastu]

Actually the Uncharted 123 Collection was free for all PS4 users too.

Back in spring 2020 when they started the whole play at home free games thing.

Not here in Germany.
For whatever reason we got "Knack 2" in exchange

 

[Kokoloko85]

Glad you liked it, but i just didn't enjoy Uncharted 4.


Horizon and Days Gone came much faster and i'm pretty sure we will see Ghosts very soon. Day1 Pc releases have a huge advantage for Sony. They spends insane amounts of money on marketing their AAA games and this would push pc sales massively. Not gonna happen too soon i guess, but when enough games came for Pc, enough PS5s are sold and the hardcore fans are used to it, i'm sure Sony will make it.

I dont agree with having a huge advantage for Sony. Just like if Nintendo started releasing day 1 or at all on PC.
They are console makers, not just publishers.

Thing is both Sony and Nintendo have done more than fine being console exclusive for decades.

If they lose day 1 exclusives to PC, some people, not all. Maybe 10-20% maybe more or maybe less, will start buying PC’s instead of Playstations. Or People who have PC’s and Playstations wont need need to buy a Playstation. Whether its 10-20% of Playstation owners, it will happen…

Then Sony will lose alot of 3rd party sales to Steam/ Epic instead of those same people buying games on the Playstation. They make a huge amount of money from 3rd party games on Playstation. This is how Sony survives and is the biggest in the industry. That and having Exclusive games. Same as Nintendo.

Imagine PS6 launch and people can’t get hold of a PS6. They‘ll just buy the games on the PC day 1 right? It just takes away from the Console.

What they are doing now is fine. Basically it gives them 2 lots of sales, double dippers. They will lose double dippers if they do same day 1 release on PC.

Yeah if Ghosts comes out in the end of 2022//2023 that will be fine.
Theres still like 20+ exclusives from Demon Souls, Bloodborne, Ratchet and Clank, Spider-Man, God of War, TLOU1 & 2, Gravity Rush, Until Dawn, Etc Theres loads of games so I doubt Sony needs to release there latest games just yet

 

[Kilau]

So Dec. 7th? Sounds good

 

[Evilms]

 

[Kazza]

Bryank75 Bryank75 is a great dude. No need to be mean.

Relax, I don't think anyone here is being mean, it's just that he has become somewhat famous on the forum due to his impassioned and strident views on the topic of Playstation games on PC, so we're just having a little fun with it.

For the record, I think his views have a lot of logic to them, but Jim Ryan seems to want to go all in, so we'll just have to wait and see how it all pans out over the course of the PS5's lifetime.

 

[Kokoloko85]

Many reasons, the industry is becoming so homogeneous and boring due to the lack of exclusives.

Exclusives are PlayStations biggest strength and now they are giving them away, this is an indicator that competition has failed and that Sony no longer feel compelled to provide compelling exclusive content.

For instance, we lost MLB exclusivity, Mm is not making new exclusives, we lost access to Zenimax games in the future and several studios were downsized or shuttered.
The response to these losses has not been to buy a few or even many talented studios to compensate PS customers but to give away the remaining exclusives we have...... despite the fact we are paying MORE now than ever and Sony are more profitable than they have ever been.

Meanwhile we have to look at Xbox buying every damned studio they can get their hands on.

Nintendo NEVER put their games on PC and reinforced the mental connection between Mario, Zelda and their other franchises and their consoles.... they started by bundling Mario bros with every Nes, then the 3rd game sold 17 million on its own. Now it sells 40+ million and moves hardware.....unfortunately PlayStation management never had the patience and never provided the proper marketing to make such an impact.

Now Horizon is just a multiplat.... the prestige is gone.
Limiting access and making these games a privilege of buying into PlayStation hardware gives these games prestige and increases their perceived value. Putting them on PC, does the opposite.

I don’t get how people won’t think it will kill alot of the Playstation business. Same thing would happen to Nintendo if they started releasing on PC. Day 1 releases on PC, would take away so much from Playstation and Nintendo.

 

[Kazza]

Is Uncharted 1 really that bad? I've only played 2 and Legacy, and enjoyed them both. I'm a sucker for these "Indiana Jones travels the world on adventures" types of games, especially right now when actually travel is almost impossible. I'm ready to give 1 a chance.

 

[GreatnessRD]

This will be a treat for the PC community. However, I still wait patiently for Gran Turismo and MLB The Show on PC. I still have the faith in you, Jimmy boy!

 

[Kazza]

This will be a treat for the PC community. However, I still wait patiently for Gran Turismo and MLB The Show on PC. I still have the faith in you, Jimmy boy!

Ghost of Tsushima is the one I'm really waiting for. I think it'd be a big hit too.

 

[Bryank75]

Relax, I don't think anyone here is being mean, it's just that he has become somewhat famous on the forum due to his impassioned and strident views on the topic of Playstation games on PC, so we're just having a little fun with it.

For the record, I think his views have a lot of logic to them, but Jim Ryan seems to want to go all in, so we'll just have to wait and see how it all pans out over the course of the PS5's lifetime.

Famous?

 

[GreatnessRD]

Ghost of Tsushima is the one I'm really waiting for. I think it'd be a big hit too.

That too, is on my list. I didn't get the PS4 version because I am a patient man.

 

[Bryank75]

Is Uncharted 1 really that bad? I've only played 2 and Legacy, and enjoyed them both. I'm a sucker for these "Indiana Jones travels the world on adventures" types of games, especially right now when actually travel is almost impossible. I'm ready to give 1 a chance.

Just very dated... ND was in a bit of chaos at the time and didn't have the time or resources they have now.

 

[STARSBarry]

Many reasons, the industry is becoming so homogeneous and boring due to the lack of exclusives.

Exclusives are PlayStations biggest strength and now they are giving them away, this is an indicator that competition has failed and that Sony no longer feel compelled to provide compelling exclusive content.

For instance, we lost MLB exclusivity, Mm is not making new exclusives, we lost access to Zenimax games in the future and several studios were downsized or shuttered.
The response to these losses has not been to buy a few or even many talented studios to compensate PS customers but to give away the remaining exclusives we have...... despite the fact we are paying MORE now than ever and Sony are more profitable than they have ever been.

Meanwhile we have to look at Xbox buying every damned studio they can get their hands on.

Nintendo NEVER put their games on PC and reinforced the mental connection between Mario, Zelda and their other franchises and their consoles.... they started by bundling Mario bros with every Nes, then the 3rd game sold 17 million on its own. Now it sells 40+ million and moves hardware.....unfortunately PlayStation management never had the patience and never provided the proper marketing to make such an impact.

Now Horizon is just a multiplat.... the prestige is gone.
Limiting access and making these games a privilege of buying into PlayStation hardware gives these games prestige and increases their perceived value. Putting them on PC, does the opposite.

I mean as a consumer I don't see that anything you just said benefits me. I suppose if I confused my own value as a human with owning a playstation console maybe I'd be upset.

I do find it hilarious that people think sticking a title on a PC that can easily cost twice to in my case ten times the amount as the Sony console as lowering perceived value of a product... I mean I'm sorry to say but even after the PS5 patch horizon is simply put a superior experience on PC thanks to the increased detail and frames, the cheaper experience is on the console, that's why most people can afford the console option but not the PC, and I suspect has a hand in why this upsets you.

I am going to point out that Microsoft stopped making interesting exclusives long before they started to release things on PC. As a counter point they have actually started to release more interesting content (as in some actual games worth playing) recently SINCE they started releasing on PC, did people forget the majority of the Xbox One years or something? Ya know the time Microsoft had "no games" and didn't release stuff on PC.

More games on more platforms will always benefit the consumer as they are given a choice, I already owned Horizon on my PS4 and I rebought it for PC because it was the superior way to play it, that's two sales instead of one, the PS5 patch did not change this and PC is still the way to go. I suspect uncharted being released several years later will also play substantially better on PC and again result in me double dipping on games I already own.

 

[Armorian]

Amazing, will play them in ultrawide.

Did UC4 and LL got 60FPS patches on PS5?

 

[Kazza]

Famous?

I said "somewhat famous" - don't forget the qualifier

Just very dated... ND was in a bit of chaos at the time and didn't have the time or resources they have now.

I'm used to playing older games, so I should be fine then. According to HowLongToBeat, the main story can be completed in under 10 hours, so hopefully the janky gameplay won't outsaty its welcome.

That too, is on my list. I didn't get the PS4 version because I am a patient man.

It looks like it has a beautiful world to explore. I think either it or God of War will be the next big PC release.

 

[beni12]

apart from weird name, is Sony really gonna sell 5 games in one package for 60$? i doubt, but we'll see.

 

[Guilty_AI]

I don’t get how people won’t think it will kill alot of the Playstation business.

cause it won't

 

[nightmare-slain]

No thanks! i have no desire to replay those games and Naughty Dog isn't getting any more money from me.

 

[TrueLegend]

This better not be Fake.

 

[mitch1971]

All uncharteds are great games apart from 4 which is a post TLOU mess.

 

[jaysius]

These games were great when released, but they’ve aged like milk.

 

[winjer]

Many reasons, the industry is becoming so homogeneous and boring due to the lack of exclusives.

Exclusives are PlayStations biggest strength and now they are giving them away, this is an indicator that competition has failed and that Sony no longer feel compelled to provide compelling exclusive content.

For instance, we lost MLB exclusivity, Mm is not making new exclusives, we lost access to Zenimax games in the future and several studios were downsized or shuttered.
The response to these losses has not been to buy a few or even many talented studios to compensate PS customers but to give away the remaining exclusives we have...... despite the fact we are paying MORE now than ever and Sony are more profitable than they have ever been.

Meanwhile we have to look at Xbox buying every damned studio they can get their hands on.

Nintendo NEVER put their games on PC and reinforced the mental connection between Mario, Zelda and their other franchises and their consoles.... they started by bundling Mario bros with every Nes, then the 3rd game sold 17 million on its own. Now it sells 40+ million and moves hardware.....unfortunately PlayStation management never had the patience and never provided the proper marketing to make such an impact.

Now Horizon is just a multiplat.... the prestige is gone.
Limiting access and making these games a privilege of buying into PlayStation hardware gives these games prestige and increases their perceived value. Putting them on PC, does the opposite.

You have such a narrow a limited view of world and business.
Especially at a time when game production costs are so big.

The first thing to consider is that Son is only releasing these games on PC after s significant amount of time.
They are waiting for these games to lose most of their value in the PS platform, and only then releasing them on the PC.
This enables Sony to reap all the value of brand attachment on the PS platform. And then, by releasing it later on PC, to have more clients, increase the fan base.
For example, by releasing HZD on PC it added millions of new players to the franchise. And now that a new game is announced, those new players are interested in playing the new game, righ now.
So these new fans of the game are more likely to buy a PS5. Even if they know that the new Horizon will be released 2 or 3 years after, on PC.

The other thing to consider is that most of the work is already done. So releasing a PS game on PC is a cheap way to increase sales and ad revenue.
Maintaining these games as exclusives on the PS platform, is leaving millions of dollars on the table. Money that Sony can't afford to lose in an age when game budgets are still increasing.
Look at Days Gone, a game that barely broke even on the PS platform. But by releasing it on the PC, Sony just made a few millions of extra profit. Not only that, they increased brand awareness and user fan base.
Now a game that was almost a failure on the PS platform, and had little chance of a sequel, became profitable. And Sony might just change it's mind, and consider that a sequel is justified.

In short, by releasing these games on the PC, Sony makes more money and increases it's costumer base.
This means Sony has more money to invest in future games. And it means that there's less risk of failure, because the amount of potential costumers as increased significantly.

 

[Bryank75]

I mean as a consumer I don't see that anything you just said benefits me. I suppose if I confused my own value as a human with owning a playstation console maybe I'd be upset.

I do find it hilarious that people think sticking a title on a PC that can easily cost twice to in my case ten times the amount as the Sony console as lowering perceived value of a product... I mean I'm sorry to say but even after the PS5 patch horizon is simply put a superior experience on PC thanks to the increased detail and frames, the cheaper experience is on the console, that's why you can afford it, and I suspect has a hand in why this upsets you.

In going to point out that Microsoft stopped making interesting exclusives long before they started to release things on PC. As a counter point they have actually started to release more interesting content (as in some actual games worth playing) recently SINCE they started releasing on PC, did people forget the majority of the Xbox One years or something? Ya know the time Microsoft had "no games" and didn't release stuff on PC.

What an arrogant and passive aggressive response...

I used to be a PC gamer and I bought 2 PS5's, my oled and all the games at launch. My brother is also a PC gamer.
I simply don't have time and find console a far more pleasurable experience. I would avoid windows like the plague if I could.

You also completely misse all the points I made about the homogenization of the industry, the collapse of competition and how I as a PS customer am paying more and getting less, far less.

Why should PlayStation / Sony care about you if you are not one of their customers?

Exclusives from PS are great because they were never meant to make huge money, they are vanity pieces and passion projects made to attract people into the PS ecosystem and spend more money on MTX, subscriptions and 3rd party games.... that is how the model works.

That is why PlayStation is way way bigger than Steam or almost anything else in gaming.

winjer you can read this too.... Sony / PS is making more money than they ever have in the past generation... the budget bullshit is just a justification they throw around to do what they like.

 

[Skifi28]

Not here in Germany.
For whatever reason we got "Knack 2" in exchange

So Germany got the better deal you say. Got it.

 

[ACESHIGH]

Loved this collection on my ps4 pro, especially no 2. For me, it's the best game out of all of them.

Fantastic more people get to experience this now.

I don’t get how people won’t think it will kill alot of the Playstation business. Same thing would happen to Nintendo if they started releasing on PC. Day 1 releases on PC, would take away so much from Playstation and Nintendo.

Nintendo needs exclusives to survive as it is barebones on everything else vs the competition (services, online infrastructure, hardware, pricing and more)

The Playstation consoles will continue selling a truckload of units even if tomorrow all their exclusives from the ps4 era would stealth release on steam.
Their consoles offer modern features and play all games with good to great graphics for the money on top of PSN being a quite robust online infrastructure.

Taking FIFA, GTA, Fortnite and COD from PS would do more harm than losing exclusives.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

I'd much rather them give a 4K/120 fps patch for PS% than give these PC peasants a great game.

 

[Bryank75]

You have such a narrow a limited view of world and business.
Especially at a time when game production costs are so big.

The first thing to consider is that Son is only releasing these games on PC after s significant amount of time.
They are waiting for these games to lose most of their value in the PS platform, and only then releasing them on the PC.
This enables Sony to reap all the value of brand attachment on the PS platform. And then, by releasing it later on PC, to have more clients, increase the fan base.
For example, by releasing HZD on PC it added millions of new players to the franchise. And now that a new game is announced, those new players are interested in playing the new game, righ now.
So these new fans of the game are more likely to buy a PS5. Even if they know that the new Horizon will be released 2 or 3 years after, on PC.

The other thing to consider is that most of the work is already done. So releasing a PS game on PC is a cheap way to increase sales and ad revenue.
Maintaining these games as exclusives on the PS platform, is leaving millions of dollars on the table. Money that Sony can't afford to lose in an age when game budgets are still increasing.
Look at Days Gone, a game that barely broke even on the PS platform. But by releasing it on the PC, Sony just made a few millions of extra profit. Not only that, they increased brand awareness and user fan base.
Now a game that was almost a failure on the PS platform, and had little chance of a sequel, became profitable. And Sony might just change it's mind, and consider that a sequel is justified.

In short, by releasing these games on the PC, Sony makes more money and increases it's costumer base.
This means Sony has more money to invest in future games. And it means that there's less risk of failure, because the amount of potential costumers as increased significantly.

PC users are not PlayStation customers... they are not spending in the areas that make PlayStation the big money.

Nintendo understands that exclusives are to attract people into your system and meant to be a unique selling point.

Steam and Epic get their cut out of every sale and it makes far less money to sell on PC than a single sale on the PS platform.

Nixxes was a waste of a purchase and that time and energy could have gone to buying a real game making studio and adding value to PlayStation...instead they decided to diminish it.

I have been mulling over moving completely to Nintendo as my main platform, due to their authenticity when they present something as exclusive...they do not lie to their customers and seem to have at least a modicum of respect.

Edit: also...what investment in future games???? We have less studios now than ever. There is no investment. There are no acquisitions.... if I was getting something out of this I wouldnt complain so much but I get less than nothing, I lose as a PS customer. That is what the PS5 generation has been so far for me as a PS fan.

 

[Gameplaylover]

I dont agree with having a huge advantage for Sony. Just like if Nintendo started releasing day 1 or at all on PC.
They are console makers, not just publishers.

Thing is both Sony and Nintendo have done more than fine being console exclusive for decades.

If they lose day 1 exclusives to PC, some people, not all. Maybe 10-20% maybe more or maybe less, will start buying PC’s instead of Playstations. Or People who have PC’s and Playstations wont need need to buy a Playstation. Whether its 10-20% of Playstation owners, it will happen…

Then Sony will lose alot of 3rd party sales to Steam/ Epic instead of those same people buying games on the Playstation. They make a huge amount of money from 3rd party games on Playstation. This is how Sony survives and is the biggest in the industry. That and having Exclusive games. Same as Nintendo.

Imagine PS6 launch and people can’t get hold of a PS6. They‘ll just buy the games on the PC day 1 right? It just takes away from the Console.

What they are doing now is fine. Basically it gives them 2 lots of sales, double dippers. They will lose double dippers if they do same day 1 release on PC.

Yeah if Ghosts comes out in the end of 2022//2023 that will be fine.
Theres still like 20+ exclusives from Demon Souls, Bloodborne, Ratchet and Clank, Spider-Man, God of War, TLOU1 & 2, Gravity Rush, Until Dawn, Etc Theres loads of games so I doubt Sony needs to release there latest games just yet

To me consoles and Pcs are like motorcycles and cars. Both can take you from A to B, but the feeling is completely different. For that reason i don't see many players leave Playstation for a Pc. If i had to call a number i would say maybe 5% (pc gamers that get a PS just for the exclusives included) And it's not said that every person would buy lots of 3rd parties or subscriptions on PS. Some just play free2play games like Fortnite, some just FIFA and so on.

Sonys agressive marketing let them sell 15m Uncharted 4 on PS4. What do you think how many Collections are they going to sell on Pc with older games and without that marketing? 3m? 4m? And we are talking about 5 games, not just one. Imagine the same numbers on Pc, we are talking about more than billion just for the Uncharted franchise.

Maybe you are right, maybe i am right. Time will tell. But the fact that Sony bought a studio for ports tells me Sony wants more and faster ports.

 

[Guilty_AI]

I'd much rather them give a 4K/120 fps patch for PS% than give these PC peasants a great game.

they can't give out a great game when they don't have one in the first place

 

[Gen.Grievous]

Seems too good to be true to get the entire collection. I played through Days Gone about a month ago and didn't have any issues with performance or bugs so if Uncharted is similar I'll buy it.

 

[winjer]

PC users are not PlayStation customers... they are not spending in the areas that make PlayStation the big money.

Nintendo understands that exclusives are to attract people into your system and meant to be a unique selling point.

Steam and Epic get their cut out of every sale and it makes far less money to sell on PC than a single sale on the PS platform.

Nixxes was a waste of a purchase and that time and energy could have gone to buying a real game making studio and adding value to PlayStation...instead they decided to diminish it.

I have been mulling over moving completely to Nintendo as my main platform, due to their authenticity when they present something as exclusive...they do not lie to their customers and seem to have at least a modicum of respect.

That's just BS.
The moment someone buys a game from a company, they become costumers.
And the more games Sony sells on PC, the more money these costumers will give to Sony.
Arguing that PC gamers are not costumer, because they can only buy a couple of games, today, is just disingenuous.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

they can't give out a great game when they don't have one in the first place

 

[TrueLegend]

Exclusives from PS are great because they were never meant to make huge money

Cmon bro, you can't really believe that. You mean God of War, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, Spiderman were never meant to make huge money. What?.....NO. Just NO.

 

[BaneIsPain]

As a fan of exclusives, it is a bit disappointed despite it is inevitable with current Sony direction.
I will buy it again anyway.

 

[LazyParrot]

PC users are not PlayStation customers... they are not spending in the areas that make PlayStation the big money.

What are those areas? Last I checked digital game sales made up like 60% of their revenue.

 

[Bryank75]

That's just BS.
The moment someone buys a game from a company, they become costumers.
And the more games Sony sells on PC, the more money these costumers will give to Sony.
Arguing that PC gamers are not costumer, because they can only buy a couple of games, today, is just disingenuous.

PlayStation makes very little of their money from 1st party.... you just do not understand how big PlayStation is and how they make their money.

Most of their money comes from 3rd party sales, MTX and subscription... how are they going to get these to increase by giving away what attracts people to the platform?

Exclusives are the cheese in the trap..... without the cheese, it's just a trap.

 

[Bryank75]

What are those areas? Last I checked digital game sales made up like 60% of their revenue.

Digital software AND ADD ON..... mostly MTX and 3rd party games. 1st party makes next to nothing of that.