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[ZywyPL]

That's why they should instead be buying Kadokawa and as many important studios as they can to force people to buy a PS.

Much like MSFT is trying to do to PS gamers who like Zenimax games.

Their job is to maximize their platform, not PC or other stores.

Nah, their job is to maximize profit, whatever it takes. MS's games are one thing, but their console/ecosystem is connected with PC, the games, saves, services, achievements etc. travel with you, this is what Sony's lacking no matter how many games they'll have, their games aren't even fully compatible even with their own consoles to begin with, with required patches, save transfers, making sure you have the right version installed etc., with such approach it'll be really hard to convince the PC crowd who is used to their game library always being there, always working, always better.

Because if we take a step away from the PS5 and look at a broader, longer-term picture, what Sony has to offer? If there's gonna be a mid-gen refresh again, will the games use it's extra power or will require patching one by one yet again? PS6 - will the games run better? Will the saves work just like that? Will the cross-gen titles install the desired versions? What about PS7 and further consoles? So their ecosystem is a mess for someone who's already on it, let alone for a demanding PC crowd. Sony could get away with it if the consoles were still using some unique, exotic architectures, but it's all x86 now, there's no excuse.

So the way I see it there are two options - either they'll sort out their platform, open up their ecosystem, make it more compatible with the world, or go into the opposite direction (which seems to be the case) - they'll want it to remain hermetic, so once you're there you stay there.

 

[LazyParrot]

Well, I would point to their financial results, revenue and profits to prove that the traditional model works. It works for Nintendo too... who have strong profits and the fastest selling console ever.

It is the one putting games on PC day 1 that is last place...

It's proof that the traditional model works, but it's not proof that other models wouldn't work just as well or better.

Microsoft are in last place not because they release games on PC, but because that's historically where they've always been. They've doubled down on PC this gen and yet their new consoles are their fastest-selling ever.

 

[lmimmfn]

But.... but.... mah PS exclusives!!!

 

[Umbasaborne]

I doubt it For a long time.
Uncharted was released 5 years ago
This formula of older games is fine

It will likely be newer games soon. Which i dont see why thats a problem tbh

 

[BennyBlanco]

Every Uncharted and every Halo on the same service.

 

[Kenpachii]

All the games Sony as released and announced are coming to the PC, several years after the PS release.
Days Gone took 2 years to be released on PC.
HZD took took 3 years.
The 3 first Uncharted games took over a decade.
Uncharted 4, if it's released in 2021, took 5 years.

It's plainly obvious that Sony is only releasing old games on the PC.
They are not releasing new games on the PC. They are not releasing on the PC at the same time, as on the PS platform.
Not even close.

Sony has been making games for PC already since forever mate.

 

[yurinka]

Sony announced Uncharted 4 was coming to PC this year, not sure if natural or fiscal year.

When I saw it, it feel weird to me to don't release the Nathan Drake collection before. So it would make sense to me, but as of now what they announced is U4 and not the Nathan Drake Collection.

I think they will end releasing all Uncharted games on PC sooner or later, but to sell all of them in a single collection and use this name I think won't, happen. I think this image is fake (and to release it the day before Halo Infinite would be crazy xD):

 

[Armorian]

Amazing, will play them in ultrawide.

Did UC4 and LL got 60FPS patches on PS5?

Every Uncharted and every Halo on the same service.

There is no H5 on PC.

 

[Umbasaborne]

Many reasons, the industry is becoming so homogeneous and boring due to the lack of exclusives.

Exclusives are PlayStations biggest strength and now they are giving them away, this is an indicator that competition has failed and that Sony no longer feel compelled to provide compelling exclusive content.

For instance, we lost MLB exclusivity, Mm is not making new exclusives, we lost access to Zenimax games in the future and several studios were downsized or shuttered.
The response to these losses has not been to buy a few or even many talented studios to compensate PS customers but to give away the remaining exclusives we have...... despite the fact we are paying MORE now than ever and Sony are more profitable than they have ever been.

Meanwhile we have to look at Xbox buying every damned studio they can get their hands on.

Nintendo NEVER put their games on PC and reinforced the mental connection between Mario, Zelda and their other franchises and their consoles.... they started by bundling Mario bros with every Nes, then the 3rd game sold 17 million on its own. Now it sells 40+ million and moves hardware.....unfortunately PlayStation management never had the patience and never provided the proper marketing to make such an impact.

Now Horizon is just a multiplat.... the prestige is gone.
Limiting access and making these games a privilege of buying into PlayStation hardware gives these games prestige and increases their perceived value. Putting them on PC, does the opposite.

This is a dumb reason not to put games on pc. Let me get this straight. If other people are allowed to play what once weree exclusives on your favorite platform, then the game is less special? Good god, what that tells me is that you care more about the brand and less about the games. The games dont become less good because more people can play them, unless its a cross gen thing like ps5 games being retrofitted to release on ps4 ala gt7

 

[Punished Miku]

The salt when The Last of Us gets ported is going to be insane.

 

[nightmare-slain]

Amazing, will play them in ultrawide.

Did UC4 and LL got 60FPS patches on PS5?


There is no H5 on PC.

yup no Halo 5. i must be one of the very few people who enjoyed it. it seems to bizarre that all Halo games will be on PC except 5. just bring it over and if they want to then pretend it doesn't exist fine.

 

[LaughingStock]

I loved U2 and U3, and will def play them again.
Played U4 on PSNow but didnt really like it. It seemed Naughty Dog def were effected by all those 'Nathan Drake is a mass muderer' memes from over the years.

UC4 is a third-person shooter ashamed of being a third-person shooter.

 

[legacy24]

This is pre much Sony's MCC for pc

 

[martino]

There is no H5 on PC.

this is why i'm waiting for it to get a personal opinion of halo games after reach....
I'm not tempted to play halo 4 because of that.
MS has to be coherent here...ether they release all of them on pc or they won"t exist in my eyes.

 

[nightmare-slain]

The salt when The Last of Us gets ported is going to be insane.

TLOU is a great game though. TLOU2 not so much.

i'd LOVE to buy TLOU on PC but ND can go fucking whistle for my money. the only way i'd actually buy it would be if there was a cheap key so that as little money as possible went to ND. no way i'd buy directly from steam/epic and give them £30-40.

This is pre much Sony's MCC for pc

except one MCC is good and the other is complete trash.

the Uncharted games don't even come close to touching Halo. Uncharted is just a poor mans Tomb Raider rip off.

 

[Rykan]

This is ridiculous. Why would they even do this?

Do they not realize how many PC gamers are not going to be buying a Playstation 4 after this!? The amount of lost sales is easily dozens!

 

[Kenpachii]

Many reasons, the industry is becoming so homogeneous and boring due to the lack of exclusives.

Exclusives are PlayStations biggest strength and now they are giving them away, this is an indicator that competition has failed and that Sony no longer feel compelled to provide compelling exclusive content.

For instance, we lost MLB exclusivity, Mm is not making new exclusives, we lost access to Zenimax games in the future and several studios were downsized or shuttered.
The response to these losses has not been to buy a few or even many talented studios to compensate PS customers but to give away the remaining exclusives we have...... despite the fact we are paying MORE now than ever and Sony are more profitable than they have ever been.

Meanwhile we have to look at Xbox buying every damned studio they can get their hands on.

Nintendo NEVER put their games on PC and reinforced the mental connection between Mario, Zelda and their other franchises and their consoles.... they started by bundling Mario bros with every Nes, then the 3rd game sold 17 million on its own. Now it sells 40+ million and moves hardware.....unfortunately PlayStation management never had the patience and never provided the proper marketing to make such an impact.

Now Horizon is just a multiplat.... the prestige is gone.
Limiting access and making these games a privilege of buying into PlayStation hardware gives these games prestige and increases their perceived value. Putting them on PC, does the opposite.

Because they make there money with hardware and software sales, unlike sony. No reason to keep people on there platform when they are the market leader on that department already anyway.

TLOU is a great game though. TLOU2 not so much.

i'd LOVE to buy TLOU on PC but ND can go fucking whistle for my money. the only way i'd actually buy it would be if there was a cheap key so that as little money as possible went to ND. no way i'd buy directly from steam/epic and give them £30-40.


except one MCC is good and the other is complete trash.

the Uncharted games don't even come close to touching Halo. Uncharted is just a poor mans Tomb Raider rip off.

Pretty sure TLOU is playable on PC through emulation.

 

[Hobbygaming]

If this is true then it sounds like they're getting ready to announce Uncharted 5 or Lost Legacy 2 for the PS5

It's going to look insane

 

[Gameplaylover]

The salt when The Last of Us gets ported is going to be insane.

Na, most of them are already in stage 5 of grief.

 

[Dust-by-Monday]

So why is it still stuck in 1080p for PlayStation owners?

I'm sad it never got a PS4 Pro patch.

 

[RavenSan]

This is ridiculous. Why would they even do this?

Do they not realize how many PC gamers are not going to be buying a Playstation 4 after this!? The amount of lost sales is easily dozens!

 

[rodrigolfp]

Finally without deficient gunplay...

 

[Bryank75]

The salt when The Last of Us gets ported is going to be insane.

 

[RavenSan]

That is why PlayStation is way way bigger than Steam or almost anything else in gaming.

Steam had approximately 120 million monthly active players in 2020, a significant increase from 95 million monthly active users in 2019.

Steam peak concurrent players 2023 | Statista

In January 2023, gaming platform and digital storefront Steam reported 33 million peak concurrent players, up from 30 million peak concurrent players in the preceding year.

www.statista.com

As of June 2021, the network had approximately 104 million monthly active users, a significant increase from the 50 million users in March 2014.

PlayStation Network MAU 2023 | Statista

While it is tricky to pinpoint exactly how many PlayStation users exist, Sony officially states that the number of active PSN users is more than 120 million.

www.statista.com

 

[Bryank75]

Because they make there money with hardware and software sales, unlike sony. No reason to keep people on there platform when they are the market leader on that department already anyway.



Pretty sure TLOU is playable on PC through emulation.

But they are not currently... Nintendo is the fastest selling and has the most current units out there.

Sony lost Japan to them. Time for PS leadership to wake the fuck up.... they are deluded. They must compete for every customer they can get to buy their hardware.

 

[Bryank75]

Steam had approximately 120 million monthly active players in 2020, a significant increase from 95 million monthly active users in 2019.

Steam peak concurrent players 2023 | Statista

In January 2023, gaming platform and digital storefront Steam reported 33 million peak concurrent players, up from 30 million peak concurrent players in the preceding year.

www.statista.com

As of June 2021, the network had approximately 104 million monthly active users, a significant increase from the 50 million users in March 2014.

PlayStation Network MAU 2023 | Statista

While it is tricky to pinpoint exactly how many PlayStation users exist, Sony officially states that the number of active PSN users is more than 120 million.

www.statista.com

Revenue and profit, PS destroys Steam. It's not even close.

I have a Steam account and barely use it....
Many have Steam for one game. It's free to download and has free games on it.

 

[skit_data]

I hope we get a 60fps patch for UC4 and Lost Legacy for PS5 at least

 

[RavenSan]

Revenue and profit, PS destroys Steam. It's not even close.

I have a Steam account and barely use it....
Many have Steam for one game. It's free to download and has free games on it.

Keep on moving those goalposts mate, you're doing terrific.

 

[jose4gg]

"The Naughty Dog PC collection"....

Ummm something about that text doesn't seem right to me.

 

[Mike Zhang]

So, PS MAU dropped 10m in 6 months?
Good luck, Jim Ryan

 

[luca_29_bg]

https://www.everyeye.it/notizie/uncharted-collection-pc-annuncio-arrivo-leak-avvistato-537993.html it's fake !
Update - Apparently the banner leaked is fake: how do we say it?The artwork used is the same as Uncharted Naughty Dog Legacy Collection, a non-official Made Fan Cover for a collection for PlayStation 5. Follow the original news.

 

[Bryank75]

So, PS MAU dropped 10m in 6 months?
Good luck, Jim Ryan

He's a clown. He has no clue what he is doing and he did a terrible job when in charge of europe.

 

[FoundryMusic]

For instance, we lost MLB exclusivity, Mm is not making new exclusives, we lost access to Zenimax games in the future

"we"? Interesting choice of word there.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Cool, okay.

Where's Bloodborne tho.

 

[saintjules]

What is that screenshot even supposed to come from? It's dated 6 September and it looks like a Tweet, but it's obviously impossible it is one?

Yeah, I never seen that format even when scheduling tweets.

 

[Derktron]

Now this game I will get from Sony on PC, could not finish off the collection because I was an idiot and sold my PS4 last year thinking I was going to get a PS5. Well, I was wrong.

 

[Kenpachii]

But they are not currently... Nintendo is the fastest selling and has the most current units out there.

Sony lost Japan to them. Time for PS leadership to wake the fuck up.... they are deluded. They must compete for every customer they can get to buy their hardware.

Nintendo isn't competing against sony mate. They have a whole different market.

Also sony doesn't care about japanese gamers because if they did the PS5 would be a handheld with kiddy games on it which they like so much or start investing massively into development teams over there.

The west is important to sony as its there market, same for Microsoft and after that its asia where japan is jsut a minor part off it with the main focus china.

China is currently moving into PC market pretty drastically and its only natural for a company like sony which already has deep roots in PC land since forever to move and widen this up with content that can fund there next 200m costing game. Which frankly a small userbase isn't going to be paying for.

It's only natural for them to move into PC, for nintendo its not.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Amazing, will play them in ultrawide.

Did UC4 and LL got 60FPS patches on PS5?


There is no H5 on PC.

Just as well.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

I will 100% support this if it comes. I've only beat the first 2 games lol

I stopped at such a good moment. Loved the first 2 games as well.

 

[ACESHIGH]

Bryank75 why do you care so much about Sony buying companies to "force" people on their ecosystem? As long as you are good with your PS purchase why would you care about the platforms other people play on?

Your posts always give the impression that you would love a Playstation monopoly. That would be terrible for gaming.

 

[Bryank75]

Bryank75 why do you care so much about Sony buying companies to "force" people on their ecosystem? As long as you are good with your PS purchase why would you care about the platforms other people play on?

Your posts always give the impression that you would love a Playstation monopoly. That would be terrible for gaming.

PS2 was fantastic, so I don't think that pans out...

Everybody playing on PlayStation would be great.

One world, one people!

 

[Yselacrey00]

I don't expect it to be any lower than 59,99.

69.99 remember that Sony raised prices for their "premium" content.

 

[Bryank75]

69.99 remember that Sony raised prices for their "premium" content.

Not on PC, that is a PS5 tax.... they charge you extra to play games on PS5.

 

[Holammer]

69.99 remember that Sony raised prices for their "premium" content.

39.99 for the entire enchilada They want to build hype for the 2022 movie.

 

[ACESHIGH]

One world, one people!

Sounds like communism to me... Thanks but no thanks.

The PS2 was so dominant but for different reasons that had nothing to do about purchasing studios.

1 - Piracy: The backbone of the PS brand from 1994 through 2007
2 - Look ma, it plays DVDs as well!
3 - Nintendo second consecutive fuckup with the Gamecube
4 - Sega went down
5 - Xbox while a great console started late in the console race that generation.
6 - Japanese devs being clueless about PC gaming made PC ports of console style games almost impossible.
7 - PC being a completely different animal vs consoles back then.

And on top of that the PS2, while underpowered, was a great console for the price. PS1 BC was a genius move. Still, the 5th and 6th generations while dominated by playstation were nowhere close to a monopoly.

 

[dotnotbot]

39.99 for the entire enchilada They want to build hype for the 2022 movie.

Good luck lol

 

[Nemesis Prime]

Hope we can buy each game separately, still havent played 4 so I can't wait

 

[winjer]

Sony has been making games for PC already since forever mate.

If you read carefully, you might notice we were talking about PS exclusives being brought to the PC.

 

[Gameplaylover]

Good luck lol

Shouldn't be a problem with all those steam key sites. HZD for example ~20 bucks, Steam wants 50.

 

[SlimySnake]

Cool. Will buy when it goes on sale. 120 fps Uncharted? yes please.

Lets hope they at least patch 60 fps to the PS4 games and add 4k support for the PS3 games on the PS5.