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Wow, Marvel Avengers is a piece of shit game...
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ArtemisClydeFrog
Banned
A surprise to be sure. Literally the only good Marvel games since X-Men 2: Clone Wars were the Spider Man ones on PS4/5. Let's stop with the SUPERHERO games.
Javthusiast
Banned
Right?
Almost a year and they managed to shit out two archers and the third character isn't even out yet.
Reizo Ryuu
Gold Member
I don't think they had a choice, it's pretty much marvel/disney that makes the release decisions.
Like Kate and clint were supposed to be released back to back, for the disney+ show, but then the disney+ show got delayed.
Then the 'red room content', was supposed to be released together with the black widow movie in december, then of course that got delayed and the content got delayed as well.
The black panther content was slightly delayed as well, but it's also a proper expansion so they've been working on it for months. Marvel/disney clearly has a tight leash on what they'll allow to be released at what time, so they can tie it in with their theater/disney+ shows/movies.
The next Spider-Man movie is coming in december, so it makes sense for them to release Spider-Man a bit before.
captainnapalm
Member
I bought it at $20 just for the campaign and eye candy on PC, but I can't imagine being invested in the horrible end game/loot grind aspect of the game.
Such a shame Crystal Dynamics are wasted on something like this. And the Deus Ex guys on a Guardians of the Galaxy game? Square Enix doing that classic EA thing where they take talented devs and totally misdirect their talent and force them to make stuff they're not suited to making out of greed.
Such a shame Crystal Dynamics are wasted on something like this. And the Deus Ex guys on a Guardians of the Galaxy game? Square Enix doing that classic EA thing where they take talented devs and totally misdirect their talent and force them to make stuff they're not suited to making out of greed.
LegendOfKage
Member
If it was supposed to line up with a movie tie-in, that does make more sense. Thanks for the explanation.
ManaByte
Gold Member
The Wakanda expansion was going to be the first release, but Chadwick Boseman died and SE didn't want to be seen as cashing in on his death so that was pushed to after the archers and Black Widow.
Sleepwalker
Member
I'll pay $5-10 to the play the campaign, hopefully it touches there during BF, not worth anything more.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Who gives a shit about skins? I mean, it's still shitty, but as long as they're not gating off anything that actually matters...
GymWolf
Member
The single player campaign and co-op (when it works) is fantastic. Marvel and SQUARES need and desire for a GaaS does not take away from the fact that the core is actually fun. That is why people defended the game (because at the end of the day you don't have to buy cosmetics).
ButchCat
Member
Trust me Disney is not looking for sympathy anytime soon.
Insomniac is the dream team to do it. Not that I care for these games.
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sendit
Member
The core gameplay is trash. No one should be defending this game for that reason.
eastcoastkody
Member
i mean, there's plenty to complain about with this game. But this is like last on the list. You still get plenty of skins on ur first playthrough. The cosmetics shop wasn't great even when it was working.
And yes they need to start doing skins as a reward for events. But they haven't yet. And im sick of "skin begging". Everyone on that reddit is cheap, and complains that everything should be free. I guess the 80 skins the game gives u is not enough. That they demand all content be free for eternity just because they paid $60 for a game a year ago.
And yes they need to start doing skins as a reward for events. But they haven't yet. And im sick of "skin begging". Everyone on that reddit is cheap, and complains that everything should be free. I guess the 80 skins the game gives u is not enough. That they demand all content be free for eternity just because they paid $60 for a game a year ago.
Nico_D
Member
Honestly, I didn't believe it would be as bad as people were saying.. Until I played it when it when it was in PS Now. It pretty much was. Or just very uninspired by the numbers and mind-numbingly boring. I'd say Ms. Marvel as the protagonist was the biggest mistake, they just didn't manage to make her interesting or likable for me. Couldn't get farther than about three hours.
Ceadeus
Gold Member
Good one! Ahahaha omg
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Nico_D
Member
Opinions. Mankind Divided was excellent. But Shadow was indeed utter shit compared to the first two games.
TonyK
Member
Why (adult) people care about cosmetics in games? Usually the best suit is the basic one, and I don't give a shit about other outfits (not in GTA, Red Dead, Assassin's Creed, Avengers, Ratchet and clank, Yakuza, Mario, etc).
I see people mad about silly outfits that look like pure trash only because are behind a paywall or part of a DLC. But they looks like way worse than the free original outfits!
Cosmetics are important to you, Gaf?
I see people mad about silly outfits that look like pure trash only because are behind a paywall or part of a DLC. But they looks like way worse than the free original outfits!
Cosmetics are important to you, Gaf?
TonyK
Member
Same here.
Fredrik
Member
Yeah the talk turned sour at once after they announced the Spider-Man exclusivity, wasn’t why it bombed but it certainly didn’t help.
Don't you know us gamers prefer to pay for cosmetics for out gaming avatars but wear the same shit in real life that we haven't washed in weeks.
But seriously yeah I don't get cosmetics at all.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Me neither. The only cosmetic I cared enough to download were free Xbox 360 dashboard themes. I think I had Gears, Batman and Black Ops freebies. And Titanfall had a good one for Xbox One. Why the hell would I buy a home screen banner for $5?
As for hats and jackets (especially if you have to pay for it), who gives a shit.
When I play COD, I'm one of the guys who makes different load outs and whatever graphic Activision spits out as my guy is what I use. Dont care about changing the look of my character, gun skin or tag.
But it's a social media world. Got to stand out. If 10 people have a default COD helmet, some people got to pay to buy a different colour one. So 3 people have blue helmets. Then one of the three blue guys says fucks this, I want a red one. Then the red helmet guy sees someone online with a neon orange one, so he wants that. The neon orange gamer notices everyone is copying him so he bumps up to buy a see-through one.
Retarded.
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junguler
Banned
it's very important to me, i spend a lot of time making my characters exactly how i want them to look and would want to have different looks for different missions/scenarios. i love unlocking new outfits or clothing options for my characters. i won't pay extra for them tho or buy any micro transactions because i could be buying a good indie game with the same amount of money which is obviously the better deal.
eastcoastkody
Member
i've put a bunch of time in both. Avengers is WAY better. Probably sold more. Had more content and support in 4 months than Anthem did in 2 years.
Avengers has certainly bungled many things. But in hindsight, Anthem was even worse than we thought
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
squallheart
Member
This. The moment i saw the trailer i knew it was going to be trash and was laughing when streamers were praising it xD There was this specific commercial from twitch with this asian girl gamer don't know who it was that was losing her mind. At least she got paid.
eastcoastkody
Member
in what ways do you believe Anthem is better. I could probably come up with some, but stacked up its a landslide in favor of Avengers. Obviously i like both of them. But i would say Avengers is a 6 and Anthem is a fun 4
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
1 it wasn’t a waste of the marvel license
2 the traversal in Anthem still has not fount an equal in any game (even iron man in avengers felt like a KO compared to javelins)
3 few games come close to matching you feeling like a bad ass like anthem. Marvel has the avengers fighting fucking robots… what a complete waste.
4 it’s a beautiful game, still looks amazing today (avenger just looks bad)
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eastcoastkody
Member
again i would call BS. Battlefront II had everything locked behind a paywall if u didn't put in dozens upon dozens of hours of grinding. Imagine if Avengers only gave u Kamala Khan. And to unlock the other 5 characters u had to grind for 200hrs? By the time u get thru the 11hr campaign and grind a little u have unlocked countless skins, emotes etc in Avengers. In the same amount of time u would be lucky to have unlocked 1 or 2 skins and emotes in Star wars at launch. Avengers doesn't put a paywall or HUGE game investment in gameplay elements. The closest thing is the takedowns
Grumpy Toe Nail
Banned
wish I had a company of people dedicated to milking me
Jack Videogames
Member
sainraja
Member
Game studios need to stop focusing on games that require us to grind or spend hours playing. I really miss the days we were getting Prince of Persia (Sands of Time, Warrior Within) and God of War 2. Not to forget Resident Evil games (not the FPS RE's we get now, which to me, are forgettable.)
eastcoastkody
Member
1: thats just like, ur opinion man. It hasn't been a year yet. They've given u 8 fleshed out characters so far with unique movesets. The campaign wasn't the best. But it was good. I didn't know who Kamala was before this game. And now i sorta get it.
2: I would give that to Avengers. Iron Mans traversal is pretty much a direct rip off of the Javelin controls. And the javelins traversal is all roughly the same. Its akin to Avengers just having 4 Iron Mans. With 1 being skinny and more agile. And one being fat are harder to manuever. With Avengers u get Hulk jumping around like king kong. The terrible grapping hook swinging. And teleporting around like Nightcrawler.
3. The bullet spongey-ness of punching robots def hampers the bad ass feel at times. But depending on the difficulty level ur playing on Anthem it can feel just as spongy as Avengers. And the A.I is way more braindead in Anthem. that might be a YMMV situation thats based on ur builds and what difficulty level ur playing on.
4. I will say Anthem is prettier. Its lacking in the biomes department. Ur just kinda in one area. But yeh jumping off a cliff and flying down a waterfall into a lake....swimming around, then shooting back out of the water. Landing on a rock. Looking at ur glistening shiny javelin is probably prettier than anything in Avengers. The maps in Avengers are not pretty. But i think photomode in Avengers shows that the game has its moments of beauty.
Not to mention to me Anthem only got beautiful recently. When they enabled frame boost on Xbox for it. It was ok before. But now that the frame rate is smooth the game clearly looks much better than it used to. Meanwhile on Avengers im not sure what the game even looks like in high resolution mode. As everyone plays in the Performance mode.
FranXico
Member
How does the core gameplay loop deliver, though? That's the difference.
eastcoastkody
Member
its a little of potatoes potahtoes there. Since ur comparing a third person action game and an online shooter. I will say i think Battlefront has my least favorite and worst Feel to an online shooter out of any other modern shooter i've played. It is wholly unsatisfying to shoot ppl in Star wars. I've played PS2 online shooters that felt better than that.
meanwhile the melee heavy combat of Avengers feels pretty good. Albeit bogged down by the spongy enemies.
Strider Highwind
Banned
I think GaaS games are pretty trash in general and I've never been a fan of the model. Just seems like a huge missed opportunity to deliver a great Singleplayer game in pursuit of trying to cash in off the tons of MTX associated with it
They got one of the most recognizable brands out there and would have made bank either way, but this just looks like they tried to squeeze as much out of gamers as possible and it backfired.
Hopefully we won't have to wait years to see something better and a little bit more consumer friendly, i'll support then
They got one of the most recognizable brands out there and would have made bank either way, but this just looks like they tried to squeeze as much out of gamers as possible and it backfired.
Hopefully we won't have to wait years to see something better and a little bit more consumer friendly, i'll support then
RoboFu
One of the green rats
I cannot fathom just how bad this game is a dumpster fire of a game.
I'm reading the subreddits for this and just feel bad for the fans.
and this is the type of skins they put out on the marketplace, mind you.
They put out a statement saying that skins have to go through a strict approval process from Marvel.
Marvel's quality department just went to shit if this is their standard. I'm seeing better skins from a mobile game than this AAA disaster.
Whatever happened to quality titles and games? The management handling this game is just as bad as those working on CD Projekt Red.
Hell, because of this game fans are wary about Guardians of the Galaxy.
Sigh, this is what happens when you have greedy corporations putting out garbage than putting out real quality effort. No wonder they are taking Marvel's image and shoving that in the mud.
so you haven't played it? Its not that bad of a game. its repetitive fun after a certain point. I guess if you care about skins though ....
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Kokoloko85
Member
Its not bombing at all. Probably one of the most successful projects in all media ever.
Plus no1 else would of done a better job than what Disney did with Marvel
MiguelItUp
Member
That's the saddest part though, there WAS something deep in there that felt good. But then they showed that they cared more about monetization rather than flushing out more of the good stuff. So it was incredibly shallow and repetitive. Especially for a successful GaaS title. At least for the majority.
I'm really glad that some people really did enjoy it, I just remember a number of folks that didn't praise it were getting dog piled on by people that did. It was oddly toxic, lol.