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[jroc74]

LOL

Clear win for Xbox, looks like the tools meme should die now as we can see that ~20% (on paper) difference between GPUs is starting to be visible in newer games/ports.

Once again some of yall just skip over what they said about fps in relation to the resolution...I wonder why.....

Well the power is wasted. My takeaway is that devs ruin the XSX version by going too high in resolution. I don’t think anyone would spot the resolution difference but I think most would notice the fps drops unless you have a VRR TV.

Thank you..

A good balance is always better IMO.

 

[Markio128]

Sorry guys, but when playing any game, I would not notice a resolution drop as much as stuttering frames. We can only compare apples to apples, so bringing VRR into it is a stretch to say the least.

 

[anthony2690]

if u have LFC, infinite range

i practically play most of my games like this, and never compromise on resolution/graphics

most 60 hz vrr screns will have a range between 48-60, but 120 hz vrr screens have 0-120 range (even if they state 48-120)

lfc increases the range of VRR, say you get 40 fps, screen syncs it to 80 hz, say you get 35 fps, screen syncs it to 70 hz and so on

this way, LFC+VRR sreens can cover entire range of frame rates between 0-120

sadly, i think developers would never provide such an additional mode...

Huge shame as I feel it could be a pretty cool, especially as more and more tvs will have VRR.

And tvs with hdmi 2.1/VRR/120fps etc are becoming more and more affordable.

Thank you for response btw, it is appreciated

 

[RoadHazard]

4K TVs, with VRR, hdmi 2.1, 120fps are very affordable now imo.

My Samsung qled q80t, cost £899 and came with a free Samsung q60t sound bar too.

Love it, I can imagine there is even better deals going now as I got mine last year

Personally I'm in the Sony TV camp for various reasons, and those are a bit more expensive, but still, even £900/$1250 is quite a bit of money when you already own a really good TV (just one without HDMI 2.1).

 

[AnotherOne]

Another one.

 

[Zathalus]

So, sub 1080p on XSX too. And still performing worse and stutters more.

Listen again, he was referring to the potential PS5 range. And yes, FPS is slightly higher on the PS5, but in some scenes it is smoother on the Xbox. Some areas drop to around 57 fps on both consoles, while the other console holds 60 fps. A difference of only 5% mind you.

 

[Silent Viper]

Another win for SX. Its normal now

 

[Gediminas]

watched comparisons, and PS5 image looks way better than sx, if we add smoother fps plus dualsense support, it is no brainer, PS5 won again.

 

[jroc74]

A cut and dried Xbox Series X advantage is mitigated a little when it comes to the matter of performance, where I generally found PlayStation 5 to have a significant advantage in locking to 60 frames per second. Sony's new console delivers a Metro Exodus experience that's super-smooth in combat, and equally robust in traversing the open world. Similar to Xbox Series X, there can be the odd one-frame drop, but where I found PS5 smoother is in areas where I saw some significant stutter on the Microsoft machine. Quite why the Xbox version has this issue isn't immediately clear, but I'd hope to see this addressed by the developer as there's little evidence that it's directly caused by GPU load.

This is from the written article.....Look, I know it hurts some of yall.

It is what it is...

 

[scydrex]

I´m more sensitive to shuttering frames, frame pacing issues and fps than resolution. Will watch this tonight.

 

[FatKingBallman]

Another win for SX. Its normal now

Yeah, another spin from Xbox fan. Its normal now

 

[Venom Snake]

Since i still use a 1080p TV, the only thing that really interests me is framerate. Good to see ps5 rocking 60fps like a boss, with all this RT-shit on screen. Overall, it's the best thing about this generation of consoles, including XSX/XSS, at least in my opinion.

 

[carloseduardocd]

Well the power is wasted. My takeaway is that devs ruin the XSX version by going too high in resolution. I don’t think anyone would spot the resolution difference but I think most would notice the fps drops unless you have a VRR TV.

I really doubt these resolution/fps differences between XSX and PS5 are something relevant.

One day i will put the same game on 2 same TVs side by side, and i will hide the consoles. And i will invite some Sony/Microsoft fanboys to tell me which is PS5 or XSX version.

XSX against XSS i see real differences. Blurry image for XSS, worst draw distance, more pop in.

 

[elliot5]

hmm interesting

they exposed 512p and 1080p taiga with series s/x

for some reason they didn't expose what resolution PS5 played at those SPECIFIC locations.

this is atricious. surely, ps5 would fall below 1080p in those instances. for some reason, they never stated this. hyporcisy much?

Because it's like over 10 hours into the game and on PS5 they can't transfer the save unlike Xbox. Not worth playing 10 hours on one platform to get that footage. It's likely taiga would be around 900-1000p in that area on PS5

 

[FatKingBallman]

Listen again, he was referring to the potential PS5 range. And yes, FPS is slightly higher on the PS5, but in some scenes it is smoother on the Xbox. Some areas drop to around 57 fps on both consoles, while the other console holds 60 fps. A difference of only 5% mind you.

He was reffering to XSX in that part of Youtube video.

 

[SmokSmog]

Nothing suprising, PS5 loses to XSX in heavy compute game, you can't beat 52CUs at 1825mhz with 36CUs at 2230mhz, when both are on the same architecture.

52/36= 1,44 vs 2230/1825=1,22

 

[Die Namek Ability]

Another win for SX. Its normal now

You xbox fanboys are so desperate to shake that stigma. Every post like this is cringe AF.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

8%? They were saying 20%

PS5 at 80% of XSX means it's a 25% bump from PS5 to XSX.

 

[thatJohann]

Hope they patch the black crush on PS5.

 

[Zathalus]

Why it's that important if ps5 drop lower? Can someone post a picture which show that difference in resolution? Out of my curiosity.

It's not that important, but a difference in 25% is usually noticible. Especially as your total pixel count drops lower. All it means is that the PS5 image is touch softer and with less resolved detail then the Xbox version.

 

[Die Namek Ability]

It's not that important, but a difference in 25% is usually noticible. Especially as your total pixel count drops lower. All it means is that the PS5 image is touch softer and with less resolved detail then the Xbox version.

I would personally take the slightly softer image for the more consistent FPS. I wish they would just release the games with a slider so each individual person can play how they want. Who know some may like an 8k slide show.

 

[MrLove]

significant better on PS5. I think Xbox drops suddenly big fps drops, and even below 50-40 FPS

 

[MasterCornholio]

Should the differences be larger or is this more or less what's expected?

 

[mancstheps5fanboy]

all this talk of soft image? what soft image? none noticeable , at all.
though the smoothness , wonderful... softness? get viagra dude.. and a pair of glasses.

 

[Zathalus]

He was reffering to XSX in that part of Youtube video.

Start listening at 08:13, he is referring to the PS5. The tiger level is 1080p on Xbox and since he was not able to test that section on PS5, he speculated that because it is the heaviest part of the game, it will drop below 1080p. Which makes sense, as it already drops below 1080p in previous sections when the XSX is above 1080p.

 

[carloseduardocd]

significant better on PS5. I think Xbox drops suddenly big fps drops, and even below 50-40 FPS

edit: ok.

 

[FatKingBallman]

hmm interesting

they exposed 512p and 1080p taiga with series s/x

for some reason they didn't expose what resolution PS5 played at those SPECIFIC locations.

this is atricious. surely, ps5 would fall below 1080p in those instances. for some reason, they never stated this. hyporcisy much?

Because it's like over 10 hours into the game and on PS5 they can't transfer the save unlike Xbox. Not worth playing 10 hours on one platform to get that footage. It's likely taiga would be around 900-1000p in that area on PS5

At 8:30 in video Alex mentioned that XSX version also maybe drops below 1080p too. That's awesome

 

[FatKingBallman]

Start listening at 08:13, he is referring to the PS5. The tiger level is 1080p on Xbox and since he was not able to test that section on PS5, he speculated that because it is the heaviest part of the game, it will drop below 1080p. Which makes sense, as it already drops below 1080p in previous sections when the XSX is above 1080p.

Later at 8:30 mentioned Xbox. Cheers!

 

[Zathalus]

significant better on PS5. I think Xbox drops suddenly big fps drops, and even below 50-40 FPS

You can just watch the video, drops to 57fps on both. XSX has significant more stutter (drops to 58/59 fps) during traversal. Which does not appear to be GPU related either, as they are not GPU intensive scenes (the traversal that is).

 

[Silent Viper]

80% resolution advantage with 2 fps drop in certain intense scenes which is hardly noticeable when you playing. SX easy winner.


And PS5 is not 100% smooth in frame rate either. PS5 drops 2 or 3 frames in certain sections as well ( for proof - skip to 10:48 mark in DF video) and also goes sub 1080p in resolution. I bet If PS5 resolution boosted to SX level it will suffer from serious drops in frame rate.



Ultimately both versions are good overall. Every next gen console owner should play Exodus

 

[Fredrik]

Thank you..

A good balance is always better IMO.

Yeah I really couldn’t care less about a few extra pixels. I still have 1080p screens for my PC, 100+ fps easily makes up for any lost pixels as far as I’m concerned.

 

[Zathalus]

Later at 8:30 mentioned Xbox. Cheers!

Do you have a comprehension problem? He is referring to the PS5. We already know what it drops to that area on Xbox, 1080p.

 

[MasterCornholio]

80% resolution advantage

Did they say that? I thought they said that the PS5 version was on average 80% of the XSX version resolution wise. Not that the XSX version is running at 80% higher resolution.

I could be wrong though.

 

[CatLady]

You are right, I should put you on ignore. But then I will miss the day when the mods finally get tired of your console warring and ban you.

Hope it comes soon

 

[jroc74]

Strange, because when you see the video, it looks like "oh, PS5 is smoother, but it's almost the same on both".

In this text he mentions "significant stutter". Where are these stutters on video?

Because as always their videos and written articles arent exactly 1:1.

This is why I always advise to read and watch both. Some details in one are usually not in the other.

Could be they just didnt show it in the video?

80% resolution advantage with 2 fps drop in certain intense scenes which is hardly noticeable when you playing. SX easy winner.


And PS5 is not 100% smooth in frame rate either. PS5 drops 2 or 3 frames in certain sections as well ( for proof - skip to 10:48 mark in DF video) and also goes sub 1080p in resolution. I bet If PS5 resolution boosted to SX level it will suffer from serious drops in frame rate.



Ultimately both versions are good overall. Every next gen console owner should play Exodus

This is not what they meant....lmao....

Did they say that? I thought they said that the PS5 version was on average 80% of the XSX version resolution wise. Not that the XSX version is running at 80% higher resolution.

I could be wrong though.

You are right, as usually some folks are extremely transparent or just ill informed. Either way...it looks bad...for them.

 

[DenchDeckard]

After seeing raytracing in ratchet and people realising how good it is. I can't wait for the ps5 to get vrr and more people get tvs that support it so they can see how good it is.

 

[Arias05]

significant better on PS5. I think Xbox drops suddenly big fps drops, and even below 50-40 FPS

he said XSX advantage is “mitigated a LITTLE” with ps5 holding FPS more but doesn’t take away XSX advantage cause you know “mitigated a little” means slightly brings down

 

[Silent Viper]

Did they say that? I thought they said that the PS5 version was on average 80% of the XSX version resolution wise. Not that the XSX version is running at 80% higher resolution.

I could be wrong though.

Maybe You right. I misheard
Bottomline SX version runs at higher resolution. 1500p-1700p vs 1200p-1500p.


PS5 gets slight advantage in frame rate coz of that whereas SX drops 1 or 2 frames more often due to higher resolution.

1440p- 1600p perfect resolution for SX. I hope they reduce it to 1600p on SX, so we don't see those drops.

 

[SlimySnake]

Sub 1080p is way too much imo. You have to have some standards. I am ok with 1080p 60 fps visuals when you are really pushing visuals, but this game looks last gen still with ray traced GI.

WHat is going to happen when they start pushing the detail and other visual effects? Are we looking at 720p 60 fps?

 

[Epic Sax CEO]

So Xbox is delivering 25%-36% more pixels while having a few more frame drops. Xbox has a few more frame drops in traversal, while some areas run better on one machine vs the other.

But there's the detail that yet again the SeX is holding resolution while sacrificing framerate.
What would be the resolution if the SeX like the PS5 prioritized the framerate?

 

[SlimySnake]

Maybe You right. I misheard
Bottomline SX version runs at higher resolution. 1500p-1700p vs 1200p-1500p.


PS5 gets slight advantage in frame rate coz of that whereas SX drops 1 or 2 frames more often due to higher resolution.

1440p- 1600p perfect resolution for SX. I hope they reduce it to 1600p on SX, so we don't see those drops.

That's not how DRS works.

The lower bound on the xsx is 1080p. It is NOT dropping those frames when it's 1700p or when its 1500p. It's dropping those frames at 1080p. Reducing the upper bound to 1600p wont do anything to mitigate those performance drops.

 

[Kerlurk]

nvm

 

[SenjutsuSage]

Not as much resolution trolling about Series S in this thread now... wonder why?

 

[Arias05]

But there's the detail that yet again the SeX is holding resolution while sacrificing framerate.
What would be the resolution if the SeX like the PS5 prioritized the framerate?

Not much as FPS drops are small, and as Alex says seems to be something with loading or steaming something. Control has it but they fixed it so 4a can do too. It stutters randomly on pc too

 

[Zathalus]

Later at 8:30 mentioned Xbox. Cheers!

Just so you can see I am not talking shit, directly from the video:

"...and on Playstation 5 it was kinda like 1015p. So I imagine in the heavier areas of the game there's technically a chance (I did not get up to the Taiga region as it takes more then 10 hours to get there) but I imagine, uh, the Taiga region, uh, similar to what I saw on Xbox Series X or the Xbox Series S will be the heaviest area of the game, where the image quality suffers the most and maybe you'd get something like sub-1080p counts there more often"

But there's the detail that yet again the SeX is holding resolution while sacrificing framerate.
What would be the resolution if the SeX like the PS5 prioritized the framerate?

It is not that cut and dry, firstly the traversal issue, that is obviously not a GPU limited scenario so dropping the resolution would likely achieve nothing. It's very likely a bug or code issue on the Series version of the game that needs addressing. Now for the combat section, the Xbox drops to 57 fps vs 60 fps on the PS5, a small difference of 5%, dropping the resolution a bit would likely aid there, but the res difference is over 25%, so the XSX will still have a 18-20% advantage in resolution. In the section where the PS5 drops to 57 FPS while the XSX holds 60 FPS that necessitates an even larger drop in resolution for the PS5, the XSX resolution advantage will be well over 30% at that point.

 

[FatKingBallman]

Not as much resolution trolling about Series S in this thread now... wonder why?

Because everyone with common sense acknowledged that S isn't worth mentioning at all

 

[Ulysses 31]

Not as much resolution trolling about Series S in this thread now... wonder why?

Harder to pick on something their own size?

 

[FatKingBallman]

Just so you can see I am not talking shit, directly from the video:




It is not that cut and dry, firstly the traversal issue, that is obviously not a GPU limited scenario so dropping the resolution would likely achieve nothing. It's very likely a bug or code issue on the Series version of the game that needs addressing. Now for the combat section, the Xbox drops to 57 fps vs 60 fps on the PS5, a small difference of 5%, dropping the resolution a bit would likely aid there, but the res difference is over 25%, so the XSX will still have a 18-20% advantage in resolution. In the section where the PS5 drops to 57 FPS while the XSX holds 60 FPS that necessitates an even larger drop in resolution for the PS5, the XSX resolution advantage will be well over 30% at that point.

But sub 1080p IS 1015p. If it really dropped i'm sure Alex would mentioned 900p range for PS5, which likely isn't the case then. When Alex mentioned "more often" he, definitely referred to 1015p, which is sub 1080p

 

[MasterCornholio]

Maybe You right. I misheard
Bottomline SX version runs at higher resolution. 1500p-1700p vs 1200p-1500p.


PS5 gets slight advantage in frame rate coz of that whereas SX drops 1 or 2 frames more often due to higher resolution.

1440p- 1600p perfect resolution for SX. I hope they reduce it to 1600p on SX, so we don't see those drops.

I know the two systems are close so there shouldn't be an 80% resolution advantage for the XSX. It just goes against what the specs and the bom say.

 

[Zathalus]

But sub 1080p IS 1015p. If it really dropped i'm sure Alex would mentioned 900p range for PS5, which likely isn't the case then. When Alex mentioned "more often" he, definitely referred to 1015p, which is sub 1080p

Yes, the PS5 dropped to 1015p which is sub 1080p (the XSX was at 1134p for the same section), then he states he did not get to the more demanding section of the game on the PS5, where he expects to see sub 1080p drops more often. They already tested that area on XSX, it drops to 1080p at the lowest. His entire sentence there is in reference to what the PS5 can drop too, it is even annotated on the screen that the XSX hits 1080p in that section.