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[Gaiff]

• On a NVMe drive and a Ryzen 7 7800X3D, the game load a little faster on PC (5.95s) vs PS5 (6.83s)
• The game does use DirectStorage but not GPU decompression due to issues with driver scheduling and it being too restrictive
• Shader pre-compilation takes a minute on a Ryzen 5 3600 and 28.13 seconds on a Ryzen 7 7800X3D
• The game sitll pre-compiles shaders in the background when in-game on extra CPU threads. He has not seen stutters but does not rule them out
• Minor graphical upgrades compared PS5. AF on PS5 is usually 4x but variable, on PC, you can increase it up to 16x
• Better LOD and distant terrains on PC at Very High settings compared to PS5
• 1800p with DLSS Performance (900p internal) looks better than PS5's Performance Mode
• 1440p with DLAA also looks better than PS5's Performance Mode
• 1440p with DLSS and DSR set to 60fps on a 2070 looks comparable to PS5's Performance Mode
• An RTX 3070 at 1440p High Settings isn't quite enough to reach 60fps, dipping to the 50s, but with DRS, it stays at 60fps
• An RTX 3070 at 1800p DLSS DRS 60 and High Settings is good enough for a 60fps experience
• An RTX 2070S at 1440p DLSS DRS 60 and High Settings is good enough for a 60fps experience but has drops into the 50s. Recommends a 2080/S for a locked 60fps
• 8GB GPUs are usually fine at 1440p but exhibit some issues at 1800p after or during cutscenes or after fast traveling, fps can drop hard and the game page files
• Ryzen 5 3600 is good enough for 60fps most of the time but when it gets hectic, it can drop to the upper 50s
• Minor issues with the opening sequence playback where the video is a bit stuttery because it does not target 30fps like on PS5
• No word on DLSS Frame Generation and no FSR Frame Generation option at the moment
• Optimized settings video coming in later

 

[adamsapple]

Direct storage putting in work.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Damn PS5 showing its worth.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Direct Storage

 

[FoxMcChief]

Damn PS5 showing its worth.

Consoles aren’t slouches, when a dev optimizes their games well to them. Especially the exclusive first party games.

 

[midnightAI]

Typical Alex throwing around 'far superior' when there isn't too much difference (the difference is there but hardly 'far superior')

 

[Black_Stride]

Damn people who bought AM4 early have been eating and eating.

 

[GymWolf]

Damn people who bought AM4 early have been eating and eating.

Welcome back.

 

[mansoor1980]

excellent port , no significant visual upgrades but it runs great on even older cpu/gpu combo

capcom should have used this engine for DD2

 

[Killer8]

I can't wait for the face mods.

 

[Jaybe]

I can't wait for the face mods.

 

[Black_Stride]

Typical Alex throwing around 'far superior' when there isn't too much difference (the difference is there but hardly 'far superior')

Gauging his subjective view on what is and isnt "far" superior is silly.
You are doing the exact same thing....in your opinion it isnt far superior in his it is.

Stop it.

Welcome back.

Hahaha thanks.
The dark place wasnt fun.

 

[Zathalus]

Seems like a 3600 + 2080 is enough to equal the PS5 in image quality for the 60fps mode. Pretty good port apparently.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Decima engine is a proven performer on PC. Death Stranding on Steam Deck runs surprisingly well.

 

[rofif]

Damn people who bought AM4 early have been eating and eating.

well yeah 3700x aged really fast tho

 

[Fbh]

Seems like a solid port.
Decima is still unbeatable when it comes to offering games with amazing visuals that manage to perform well on modest hardware.

 

[midnightAI]

Gauging his subjective view on what is and isnt "far" superior is silly.
You are doing the exact same thing....in your opinion it isnt far superior in his it is.

Stop it.

So he's allowed his opinion but I can't state mine?

Anyway, whatever, don't want to drag it off topic.

 

[P:axMagellanic]

Damn people who bought AM4 early have been eating and eating.

Best platform PC's has ever seen. I remember fanboy intel cunts arguing with me when the first Zens launched. Suggested shit like i3's and (comparatively) expensive boards that were dead after a generation.

 

[SlimySnake]

Shame no RT features. Wouldve really liked to see Horizon with some ray tracing.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Typical Alex throwing around 'far superior' when there isn't too much difference (the difference is there but hardly 'far superior')

Pretty much

Guy is a clown

In the same breath he’ll say the ps5 pro isn’t worth it but sperg out on some small insignificant setting on a pc port

Hate this guy

 

[yamaci17]

Welcome back.

I told you or someone else that Digital foundry wouldn't have guts to compare 3070/2070 8 gb gpu directly to ps5 in nixxes ports (due to weird vram performance scaling). it seems like i've been proven correct it could be Gaiff i dont remember. but im not surprised. just like ratchet and spiderman, instead of sanely streaming textures, game destroys GPU performance. as such, he didn't have the guts to do a direct comparison

someone told me they didnt do it due to DSR and said that they would do so as forbidden west has a fixed resolution mode or something. whoever that was, I eagerly wait their explanation as to why digital foundry didnt do direct comparisons this time on gpu performance

 

[Gaiff]

I told you or someone else that Digital foundry wouldn't have guts to compare 3070/2070 8 gb gpu directly to ps5 in nixxes ports (due to weird vram performance scaling). it seems like i've been proven correct it could be Gaiff i dont remember. but im not surprised. just like ratchet and spiderman, instead of sanely streaming textures, game destroys GPU performance. as such, he didn't have the guts to do a direct comparison

It's a preview video but he did mention the game dropping hard on 8GB GPUs sometimes when playing at 1800p and recommends either 1440p or playing with Medium textures instead of High. For the most part, they're fine but there are instances when they can run out of VRAM.

 

[sono]

I dont have this game or a PS5, but watching the YT DF review It looks incredible to me.

 

[Jaybe]

Typical Alex throwing around 'far superior' when there isn't too much difference (the difference is there but hardly 'far superior')

 

[rodrigolfp]

Are there equivalent settings again between PS and PC? Medium again or not?

 

[Zathalus]

Is there equivalent settings again between PS and PC? Medium again or not?

He said that will be in the next video, this was a preview event.

 

[yamaci17]

He said that will be in the next video, this was a preview event.

I hope he makes a direct comparison between ps5 at equivalent settings to 2070 in that video then

I'd stand corrected happily so. but i dont think he will still have guts to do it. game clearly tanks GPU bound performance heavily with PS5 equivalent textures at PS5 output resolutions.

 

[analog_future]

Typical Alex throwing around 'far superior' when there isn't too much difference (the difference is there but hardly 'far superior')

PC is a spectrum though. If you have a PC that can handle max settings + native 4K + DLAA + 120fps it is indeed ‘far superior’, to say the least.

 

[sankt-Antonio]

why not compare the PS5 40fps mode? Either way, differences look minor, RT in this game would have been nice.

 

[Physiognomonics]

Direct storage putting in work.

This is the CPU at work. Zen 2 at 3.5ghz vs 7800x3d at 5ghz. So misleading.

why not compare the PS5 40fps mode? Either way, differences look minor, RT in this game would have been nice.

You know why. Too good for PS5.

 

[adamsapple]

This is the CPU at work. Zen 2 at 3.5ghz vs 7800X3 at 5ghz. So misleading.

Not sure how it's misleading, the game uses Direct Storage, that's a fact. CPU obviously aids in the faster decompression, but without DS, it wouldn't be anywhere near this speedy.

 

[Self_Destructive]

This is the CPU at work. Zen 2 at 3.5ghz vs 7800x3d at 5ghz. So misleading.

Uh, DirectStorage in this game runs on the CPU... so, yes.

 

[Gaiff]

why not compare the PS5 40fps mode? Either way, differences look minor, RT in this game would have been nice.

Because then you would have complained about him not comparing it to Quality Mode.

The focus is Performance Mode with Quality Mode as another reference because almost everyone on PC will target 60fps, not 30 or 40.

 

[OverHeat]

Tell me this is AI generated? Hahahaha

 

[Gaiff]

I hope he makes a direct comparison between ps5 at equivalent settings to 2070 in that video then

I'd stand corrected happily so. but i dont think he will still have guts to do it. game clearly tanks GPU bound performance heavily with PS5 equivalent textures at PS5 output resolutions.

Might be difficult to do. I thought this game didn't use DRS, but it does. Plus it uses checkerboard rendering on PS5 and I don't know if it's available on PC. If it isn't, it makes a direct comparison effectively impossible.

 

[Jaybe]

Tell me this is AI generated? Hahahaha

I wish it was lol dude is quite the submissive, hence everything being “far superior”

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

How many times did Alex say FAR SUPERIOR…and yet?

 

[Gaiff]

How many times did Alex say FAR SUPERIOR…and yet?

So are you just here to cry because he didn't praise your favorite plastic box? Some of you guys need help.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

So are you just here to cry because he didn't praise your favorite plastic box? Some of you guys need help.

I’m not crying at all, I just want him to showcase facts rather than this hyperbolic spin job

 

[rodrigolfp]

why not compare the PS5 40fps mode? Either way, differences look minor, RT in this game would have been nice.

Because no one should care about less than 60fps.

 

[SlimySnake]

why not compare the PS5 40fps mode? Either way, differences look minor, RT in this game would have been nice.

no one plays 40 fps on PCs.

besides, 40 fps mode also uses checkerboarding. Its just a slightly higher resolution base. 4.1 million pixels vs 2.8 million pixels of their 1800p cb solution.

Honestly, i was disappointed by the 4kcb implementation. i was hoping for a native 4k 40 fps solution with drs. Seems like they didnt have any GPU headroom left to get 40 fps even when dropping to native 1800p.

They shouldve just pulled a Kojipro and offered a native 4k 60 fps mode in widescreen. You get black bars yes but they are not noticeable on an OLED and you get native 4k quality with an enhanced FOV. While saving on almost 40% of the GPU that couldve be used to push frames to 40 fps. This game looks perfect in widescreen.

 

[Gaiff]

I’m not crying at all, I just want him to showcase facts rather than this hyperbolic spin job

Yes, you are.

You posted this:

Pretty much

Guy is a clown

In the same breath he’ll say the ps5 pro isn’t worth it but sperg out on some small insignificant setting on a pc port

Hate this guy

Then came back with this:

How many times did Alex say FAR SUPERIOR…and yet?

Like seriously, it upsets you that much?

 

[Zathalus]

How many times did Alex say FAR SUPERIOR…and yet?

Probably less times then you whining about it in this thread.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Does my post highlighting Alex’s terrible reporting upset you?

 

[Self_Destructive]

Does my post highlighting Alex’s terrible reporting upset you?

It's more like a baby crying for attention any time their parent focuses on something different.

 

[StereoVsn]

So are you just here to cry because he didn't praise your favorite plastic box? Some of you guys need help.

The hate boner for DF in this thread is something else indeeed.

 

[Darkkahn]

Is it me or the PC release is far superior?

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

• On a NVMe drive and a Ryzen 7 7800X3D, the game load a little faster on PC (5.95s) vs PS5 (6.83s)

This CPU is worth more than PS5 DE in it's entirety, so I would be stoked for anything less, lol.

One thing that this highlights, DECIMA is a god-tier engine even on PC (proved by DS already, but still) and PS5 is still a best considering price-to-performance ratio.

 

[yamaci17]

dlss is superior to regular upscaling used on the console version. it is just facts

once PSSR lands on PS5 pro, pro users will act the same way on base model users. don't act like you wouldn't

 

[OverHeat]

It's more like a baby crying for attention any time their parent focuses on something different.