Snake29
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I mostly do Virtual photography on pc with Star Citizen: https://www.flickr.com/photos/captain_raoul/
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Fair to say that Ratchet and Clank is the best looking game made to date?
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I mostly do Virtual photography on pc with Star Citizen: https://www.flickr.com/photos/captain_raoul/
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Flight Simulator.
kuncol02
Banned
You don't see difference in render quality between that two pictures?Photomode :
Gameplay :
Do you see any difference in assets, LOD, Textures, Lighting, fx ?
The technic director at Insomniac posted this on the DF thread on Era :
Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart PS5 - The Digital Foundry Tech Review
The assets used in cinematics are the same ones used in gameplay. Every asset is chains of levels-of-detail: models have LoDs, textures have mips, and even many materials get more and less complex as you get closer to or further from them. If you construct the LoDs optimally, the transitions...www.resetera.com
Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
The first one is just a filter and extra DoF in photomode, nothing more.
octiny
Banned
WTF is this man come on, blurred and zoomed youtube footage with tons of motion blur really? I can post screens of bad looking areas of R&C without all the blur and compression in gameplay, and you can see if its cuts corners or not.
and some of you are saying that it looks a gen better than Forza(its still the greatest looking animated game ever)
Yikes, that looks like a upscaled PS4 game.
WTF is this man come on, blurred and zoomed youtube footage with tons of motion blur really? I can post screens of bad looking areas of R&C without all the blur and compression in gameplay, and you can see if its cuts corners or not.
and some of you are saying that it looks a gen better than Forza
Yea RC doesn’t look too hot the ground is really flat with random scattered rocks around
dr guildo
Member
No dof, it is the activated Aberation Chromatic mode in gameplay, working on the four corners of the screen, and you can't disabled it during photomode. But for the filter, You are right, and everybody knows that filters cost zero ressource since they can be played as extra features when you finish most of games with filter in their photomode.
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dr guildo
Member
Following you now on FLickr, thanks for the link ! You take mad shots, this is pure art ! Kudos to you !
Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
Screenshots range from 4K to 8K shots, many of which I also downsampled to 4K. Thanks for the follow.
shubik
Member
I think that will be the next option they will add to the smarthphone app. But you can put an USB stick in the PS5 and extract it in high res format .png or if you have a second account, then you can also send them to yourself. But you can just use usb stick and copy multiple fotos/videos at onces.
PS5 Capture Settings - How to record video, take screenshots, save recent gameplay, the Media Gallery and the Create button on the PlayStation 5 explained
Everything you need to know about the Create button for the PlayStation 5 DualSense controller, including how to take a screenshot and record gameplay on the Plwww.eurogamer.net
Thx for the info. I will try it with an USB stick
dr guildo
Member
Yep, except those screens are 1080p or worst, upsampled in 4K, with grain filter to the max, dof activated, and AC blurring the four corners of the screens, so his shots are not representative of the real visual quality of the game, because when you post ingame shots, it as clean as those following screens, the more you zoom in, the more you catch the tiny details, and note that all of my shots are jpeg with the terrible compression we know about, I will take PNG shots the next time :
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Yep, except those screens are 1080p or worst, upsampled in 4K, with grain filter to the max, dof activated, and AC blurring the four corners of the screens, so his shots are not representative of the real visual quality of the game, because when you post ingame shots, it as clean as those following screens, the more you zoom in, the more you catch the tiny details, and note that all of my shots are jpeg with the terrible compression we know about, I will take PNG shots the next time :
Higher res won’t effect the flat ground and geometry seen in those shots
dr guildo
Member
Why are they flat according to you ? Because of the art style or because ot a lack of power ?
I'm waiting for your reply just to laugh at...
Edit : oops, I just noticed that the reply I sent with many shots, wasn't for you but for the poster you quoted, sorry...
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Punished Miku
Gold Member
Kind of reminds me of FFXIII. Gorgeous game by the way. But yeah, a lot of the shots of those giant cities, but you're on a little slide reminds me of it. Similar art style as well in some respects. FFXIII had some giant tech cities like Eden and Academia.
mancstheps5fanboy
Banned
just goes to show , let a fktrd mess with the picture settings , then take a pic with shitty hdr , fkd brightness settings ,, yikes.
TxKnight7
Member
No need to look after Ratchet to compete with Star Citizen, Horizon Zero Dawn on Pro is enough (no cinematic) :
Btw star citizen world is way bigger than HZD
In-Game alpha
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
2 so far.
dr guildo
Member
I a
I agree with you thanks to those shots that are better than those ones you posted earlier. The game is indeed better than Horizon. But FBW will close the gap.
Btw star citizen world is way bigger than HZD
In-Game alpha
I agree with you thanks to those shots that are better than those ones you posted earlier. The game is indeed better than Horizon. But FBW will close the gap.
Okamiden
Member
Star Citizen is not a game. It's a techdemo for clueless investors.Btw star citizen world is way bigger than HZD
In-Game alpha
ToTTenTranz
Banned
I too fail to understand why a barely playable tech demo for whales is being compared to actual shipped games.
Airbus Jr
Banned
Yikes at people here bringing failure to took down rachet
Cyberpunk 2077 : an uber messed up clusterfuck, most overhyped disapointing game from last year
Flight Simulator : Does it really classsified as videogame? Cos if it is it is the most boring game i ve ever seen
Star Citizen : really ? The owner of this game should be sued for scamming people money for god knows how much
Rachet is a great game guys its ok to admit that
Cyberpunk 2077 : an uber messed up clusterfuck, most overhyped disapointing game from last year
Flight Simulator : Does it really classsified as videogame? Cos if it is it is the most boring game i ve ever seen
Star Citizen : really ? The owner of this game should be sued for scamming people money for god knows how much
Rachet is a great game guys its ok to admit that
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staticshock
Member
Yes, and it does it with the addition of Ray Tracing, something that FH5 is missing.
And FS2020 is just a bunch of satellite pictures plastered around. Not quite like the textures applied to enviromental polygons.
I have been to NYC, and trust me, this is not even CLOSE to been photorealistic!
Cloud gate!
That picture is BEFORE the US world update.
Seriously you people need to give it up.
FS 2020 is the best looking game of all times.
staticshock
Member
Those are not volumetric clouds and the water is not good with no physics and in most locations is the worst in gaming.
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Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
So has every game need to look like FS or something? While i have played it myself, a lot is not looking that good in FS. I'm impressed about the clouds, and light scattering and planes, but a lot of areas are not really detailed and it only looks good from high up in the sky. There is more in a game then clouds and water lol.
It's the total package, and i'm not saying R&C is the best looking, but atm it's a graphics benchmark with RT. For me the overall best looking game is Star Citizen.
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Brofist
Member
I think you are mistaken this isn't your personal GotY topic, it's about graphics.
You actually play Cyberpunk, or just a hive mind knee jerk reaction? Just curious.
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TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
How'd you post a best graphics thread about a game without posting any images or video of said game?
C'mon son! Get with the program...
Airbus Jr
Banned
I do and i think rachet is a better game and i think most people would agree with this
Look at how people react to cyberpunk last year lets not forget that shall we
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THEAP99
Banned
At times it can look great. Either times, like in that world with all the green stuff, it can look kinda last gen? And imo, stuff like clipping and animations count as visual presentation and they have a lot of collision issues in this game. Clipping through a tree or debris from a boss fight isn't great. But graphically, a lot of the time yes it's the best looking no doubt. Objects are very high quality looking and detailed
GymWolf
Member
To this day, horizon is still the best open world in existence when it comes to how evenly detailed are all the pg in the world, from the protagonist to the guy with 2 lines of dialogues, there is no rdr2 or days gone or metro exodus who came close to this shit.No need to look after Ratchet to compete with Star Citizen, Horizon Zero Dawn on Pro is enough (no cinematic) :
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Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
You still don't understand, and i used the FH4 image as a example why open world games need to render further and more than linear games. Here i will show you what i mean.
Look at the red arrows on the rocks in the back, thats the furthest you will see in R&C because the devs allow you to walk/slide on a linear route. Close objects on the route are high quality and the further it goes the lower it gets. But in R&C the rocks are the furthest you can see and you dont see whats behind those rocks there is nothing it doesn't render anything. you can't go on the rocks or get close to them like the platform hes on. We are not even sure if the back side of the rocks are renderd or if its just empty. They can use all the render budget that would be used on details on further distances on closer and mid range objects. The max distance is like 2km max.
Now in Forza the mountains with the red arrow are fully detail renderend even the back side and the yellow ones are also high quality rendered again with its back side. You know why, because at any moment you can go up there, you can drive there. Its rendering even the furthest object (at lower lod obv), the draw distance is much much further than R&C. they need to render it because its open world you can go there, they cannot hide it with random building or trees because they don't now where the player gonna drive.
And we are not even discussing the environment quality, like look at those mountains in Forza. Packed with detail and high quality foliage thats reacting to wind and car contact.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Partly true. All games nowadays, even linear games, use streaming engines. The Forza backgrounds you mentioned are using lower LODs just like every other open world since the PS360 era. You dont render anything in the distance at max detail or what the eyes cant see. The back of the mountains in either game are not getting rendered or are rendered at lower level details.You still don't understand, and i used the FH4 image as a example why open world games need to render further and more than linear games. Here i will show you what i mean.
Look at the red arrows on the rocks in the back, thats the furthest you will see in R&C because the devs allow you to walk/slide on a linear route. Close objects on the route are high quality and the further it goes the lower it gets. But in R&C the rocks are the furthest you can see and you dont see whats behind those rocks there is nothing it doesn't render anything. you can't go on the rocks or get close to them like the platform hes on. We are not even sure if the back side of the rocks are renderd or if its just empty. They can use all the render budget that would be used on details on further distances on closer and mid range objects. The max distance is like 2km max.
Now in Forza the mountains with the red arrow are fully detail renderend even the back side and the yellow ones are also high quality rendered again with its back side. You know why, because at any moment you can go up there, you can drive there. Its rendering even the furthest object (at lower lod obv), the draw distance is much much further than R&C. they need to render it because its open world you can go there, they cannot hide it with random building or trees because they don't now where the player gonna drive.
And we are not even discussing the environment quality, like look at those mountains in Forza. Packed with detail and high quality foliage thats reacting to wind and car contact.
Beisdes, Ratchet has several open world sections that render out things just like Forza Horizon. That particular map is linear but you also navigate it on rails and while flying albeit controlled. Other levels let you fly around.
Both games are doing spectacular things, and unless Horizon FW comes out this year, I dont see any game beating Forza Horizon and Ratchet when it comes to visual quality. You can pick either one as your favorite and you wouldnt be wrong.
Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
Yep, except those screens are 1080p or worst, upsampled in 4K, with grain filter to the max, dof activated, and AC blurring the four corners of the screens, so his shots are not representative of the real visual quality of the game, because when you post ingame shots, it as clean as those following screens, the more you zoom in, the more you catch the tiny details, and note that all of my shots are jpeg with the terrible compression we know about, I will take PNG shots the next time :
You talk about the 4K screenshots i posted? If so you should read first what i commented on there and why i posted those screenshots. The guy was posting 360p youtube footage with tons of blur and in motion Of Forza and compared it with R&C and some of them even said that R&C looked a gen better lol. Why didn't you comment on there post back then, you say that my 4k screenshots are low res and shit but where perfectly fine when they posted 360p zoomed images of Forza. Also even at 8K those flat places will not dissapear, even in your own screenshot there are alot of flat surfaces and the rocks are also here and there low res
i mean look at this, its literally the same flat texture as in my pictures. Its not because of the art style that it looks flat, i mean look at the tree trunk in the ground just a flat texture
But don't get me wrong R&C is really the best looking animated game, the game look incredible and in cutscene its the closest thing to pixar thats running real time. Its just Forza is doing much more and the realistic look coupled with all the high quality assets are something else. But both games are top notch, graphics are the last thing you can complain about those games.
PharaoTutAnchAmun
Member
Its unmatched on consoles but when you have an expensive PC-Masterace rig....i dont know.
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Captain Toad
Banned
What PC games look better?Its unmatched on consoles but when you have an expensive PC-Masterace rig....i dont know.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
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MasterCornholio
Member
That vegetation though. Probably the best that I've seen in a game.
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Bladed Thesis
Member
So Star Citizen. The amount of times I've heard this term used for Star Citizen over the last 5+ years is insane. Alpha insinuates there some kind of a beta coming. It ain't coming.
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Holly shit. At first i thought you were joking because of the Star Citizen, but then i saw your page. Damn.
The worst?? come on, man.
myharlequin
Member
R&C doesn't look like a AAA graphics-wise (in-game)
for me, Forza Horizon 5 looks better in-game
for me, Forza Horizon 5 looks better in-game
VeganElduderino
Member
Did you play R&C?
Guilty_AI
Member
ehhhhhh....Yep, except those screens are 1080p or worst, upsampled in 4K, with grain filter to the max, dof activated, and AC blurring the four corners of the screens, so his shots are not representative of the real visual quality of the game, because when you post ingame shots, it as clean as those following screens, the more you zoom in, the more you catch the tiny details, and note that all of my shots are jpeg with the terrible compression we know about, I will take PNG shots the next time :
i mean, don't get me wrong, the game looks good but ehhhhh.... i wouldn't really go around touting it as the new next gen paradigm.
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I understand very well, you just don't seem to get how open world engines work. Being able to go there makes no difference to what is actually drawn on screen. They have LODs for that whether you can go there or not.You still don't understand, and i used the FH4 image as a example why open world games need to render further and more than linear games. Here i will show you what i mean.
Look at the red arrows on the rocks in the back, thats the furthest you will see in R&C because the devs allow you to walk/slide on a linear route. Close objects on the route are high quality and the further it goes the lower it gets. But in R&C the rocks are the furthest you can see and you dont see whats behind those rocks there is nothing it doesn't render anything. you can't go on the rocks or get close to them like the platform hes on. We are not even sure if the back side of the rocks are renderd or if its just empty. They can use all the render budget that would be used on details on further distances on closer and mid range objects. The max distance is like 2km max.
Now in Forza the mountains with the red arrow are fully detail renderend even the back side and the yellow ones are also high quality rendered again with its back side. You know why, because at any moment you can go up there, you can drive there. Its rendering even the furthest object (at lower lod obv), the draw distance is much much further than R&C. they need to render it because its open world you can go there, they cannot hide it with random building or trees because they don't now where the player gonna drive.
And we are not even discussing the environment quality, like look at those mountains in Forza. Packed with detail and high quality foliage thats reacting to wind and car contact.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
He played neither.
MasterCornholio
Member
Some nice shots in this trailer.
martino
Member
Cross gen, open world but manage to shit all over ratchet in term of details density.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Eh. Detail is one area where Ratchet has Horizon beat. If anything there is too much. My eyes hurt from playing it everyday because there is too much going on.
martino
Member
We will see what you will say when your emotional personnality will be really focused on it and it's the next big thing of the moment.
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