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[HeisenbergFX4]

Game looks amazing especially on an OLED just unreal.

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

What are you talking about? Did I dismantle your garbage argument enough for you to start making shit up? Water reacts to you, objects and vegetation react to you, things are constantly moving in the back ground, entire environments change as the game progresses, there are tons of particle effects flying constantly, the sky is definitely not static (you clearly haven’t watched or played the game), and there all sorts of npcs and wild life scattered around all modeled beautifully. How can you even compare the lighting? Have you seen the screenshots posted here? Flight simulator looks flat as a board.

You keep saying art style but every individual thing, effect, and animation in ratchet blow those in flight simulator out of the water. Even those that look realistic such as water, trees, and ground textures eclipse it.

Simply saying flight simulator does something more impressive doesn’t make it true across the board. Do you know why no other devs have went about recreating the earth? Because a flight simulator is about the only game imaginable where it makes even a shred of sense.

So you honestly think R&C has more environmental this going on then FH5? There's no way. There's so much more going on in the game than ratchet. I'm not sure why you can't accept that. And the scale of FS2020 is thousands of times larger. It's good that were talking about strictly graphics, and not replayability, multiplayer, etc.

Show me where the lighting or weather comes close to either of the games I mentioned, or have more things going on screen, including physics etc.

Can you stop going personal on people if they don't agree with you? Don't try to turn your opinions into facts. You come across as rather arrogant.

It looks like it hurts your feelings more dude.

I'd have hurt feelings too, if I couldn't argue a simple point, and had to resort to changing the subject...

 

[geary]

Why do you guys act like there's only PS and Xbox games out there? For me the last gen AC: Valhalla and RDR 2 (which are both open world) in 4K are the most gorgeous games to date.

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

Why do you guys act like there's only PS and Xbox games out there? For me the last gen AC: Valhalla and RDR 2 (which are both open world) in 4K are the most gorgeous games to date.

Everyone has their preferences and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. And I completely agree with your sentiment. I'm a PC Gamer only, and I don't like getting lumped into this whole console war bullshit. I even play Devil's advocate, and reverse the roles of what consoles they were released on, and my answer would be the exact same thing. You got to give credit when credit is due

 

[Renozokii]

So you honestly think R&C has more environmental this going on then FH5? There's no way. There's so much more going on in the game than ratchet. I'm not sure why you can't accept that. And the scale of FS2020 is thousands of times larger. It's good that were talking about strictly graphics, and not replayability, multiplayer, etc.

Show me where the lighting or weather comes close to either of the games I mentioned, or have more things going on screen, including physics etc.




I'd have hurt feelings too, if I couldn't argue a simple point, and had to resort to changing the subject...

>So you honestly think R&C has more environmental this going on then FH5? There's no way.

Why you bringing forza all of a sud

>There's so much more going on in the game than ratchet. I'm not sure why you can't accept that.

I mean there’s honestly not. I’m not here to disrespect forza horizon but it’s 99% cars on a road. Ratchet has infinitely more going on in an average scenario. How is that debatable? If we ignore literally everything but pure texture work racing games win just about every gen ever yet through time we know that’s not what people bring up when talking about visuals.

>And the scale of FS2020 is thousands of times larger. It's good that were talking about strictly graphics, and not replayability, multiplayer, etc.

Forgot scale matters more than visuals when talking about visuals. Sorry but if when you zoom in on literally anything and the texture looks like dog shit I don’t find it all that impressive. When literally everything is just a totally static object with not even particle effects for hitting them I don’t find it impressive. When water looks straight from a mid tier ps3 game I’m not impressed.

 

[Garani]

So you honestly think R&C has more environmental this going on then FH5?

Yes, and it does it with the addition of Ray Tracing, something that FH5 is missing.

There's no way. There's so much more going on in the game than ratchet. I'm not sure why you can't accept that. And the scale of FS2020 is thousands of times larger. It's good that were talking about strictly graphics, and not replayability, multiplayer, etc.

And FS2020 is just a bunch of satellite pictures plastered around. Not quite like the textures applied to enviromental polygons.

I have been to NYC, and trust me, this is not even CLOSE to been photorealistic!

Show me where the lighting or weather comes close to either of the games I mentioned, or have more things going on screen, including physics etc.

Cloud gate!

 

[DenchDeckard]

FH5 just rolled up after that DF footage and went. ” you got 5 months Ratchet…enjoy it”

 

[Renozokii]

Why do you guys act like there's only PS and Xbox games out there? For me the last gen AC: Valhalla and RDR 2 (which are both open world) in 4K are the most gorgeous games to date.

Red dead is up there for sure. Valhalla’s character models and certain areas looked kind of ass to me but it can definitely be a stunning game. I think saying ratchet isn’t in contention with those makes it clear you haven’t actually played it though.

 

[MasterCornholio]

FH5 just rolled up after that DF footage and went. ” you got 5 months Ratchet…enjoy it”

Probably longer than 5 months in some areas. Kind of difficult to compare the two.

 

[Little Chicken]

I would have to say that Forza Horizon 5 and Flight Simulator look better.

But this is no way diminishes how great R&C looks; you know what does though? Threads like these.

 

[fart town usa]

Massively overrated by almost every reviewer out there as well? If it's "massively overrated" name one thing that is honestly in it's league? What else out there could pass for movie? What else out there has the kind of ray traced visuals that you see in some of those levels? Some of that stuff is just incredible looking and I've never seen anything like it before.

The only competition could be on PC since it doesn't seem like the big Xbox games are even adding RT yet.

So the above is the actual game in real time. This is the gameplay. Can you tell me how this is "massively overrated"?

Another in game real time shot above.

More in game real time goodness.

Yet another gameplay shot.

Another shot from very early in the game. And I have played all of these areas so I can confirm these shots are real.

And the crazy part is that later levels that Sony didn't want shown look even better than this.

So PLEASE, for crying out loud if this is "massively overrated" tell me a single game that equals or surpasses the execution seen on this title.

I don't give a about platforms. I'm more excited for Metroid Dread than I am Horizon Forbidden West (which honestly I'm not really looking forward to at all). I'm really excited to play Replaced. I just want to play fun games. So yeah, just look at this. Show me some screens of anything that can compete with this right now. Please.

For whatever reason, there's a certain portion of the gaming community who just refuse to believe that Ratchet & Clank is a fantastic franchise with amazing graphics.

Doesn't make sense to me either. All I know is that they're missing out on one of the best franchises in gaming. Their loss, not ours.

 

[MasterCornholio]

For whatever reason, there's a certain portion of the gaming community who just refuse to believe that Ratchet & Clank is a fantastic franchise with amazing graphics.

Doesn't make sense to me either. All I know is that they're missing out on one of the best franchises in gaming. Their loss, not ours.

It's more like they don't want to recognize the PS5 as being a powerful system. Game looks great and even the tech sites said the same. The ones calling the visuals poor are in denial.

 

[Astral Dog]

it looks amazing of course but i prefer to look at something a little more realistic in artsyle.

 

[VeganElduderino]

I think it doesn‘t look better than Gears 5 or Forza Horizon 4 on XSX. Currently playing R&C and I‘m a bit disappointed.

Don't be affraid to open your eyes while you're playing the game!

 

[sainraja]

What are you talking about? Did I dismantle your garbage argument enough for you to start making shit up? Water reacts to you, objects and vegetation react to you, things are constantly moving in the back ground, entire environments change as the game progresses, there are tons of particle effects flying constantly, the sky is definitely not static (you clearly haven’t watched or played the game), and there all sorts of npcs and wild life scattered around all modeled beautifully. How can you even compare the lighting? Have you seen the screenshots posted here? Flight simulator looks flat as a board.

You keep saying art style but every individual thing, effect, and animation in ratchet blow those in flight simulator out of the water. Even those that look realistic such as water, trees, and ground textures eclipse it.

Simply saying flight simulator does something more impressive doesn’t make it true across the board. Do you know why no other devs have went about recreating the earth? Because a flight simulator is about the only game imaginable where it makes even a shred of sense.

Don't waste your time arguing with him. He's a different type of 'warrior'. Probably just allergic to anything Playstation. But at the same time, I don't understand why a game like Ratchet needs to be better or worse than anything else and the games being compared or pitted against each other are good in their own right, with what they are trying to achieve. Why does it need to be a match between the different games (and the platforms)? lol Nobody here had a hand in designing any of the consoles or the games here in question.

Ratchet is a very fun and good looking game.

 

[Tiamat2san]

Well one of prettiest, sure.
The most beautiful ? Nope.
Some of the planets are average to my eyes.
Some are incredible (tighter levels)

 

[kuncol02]

WTF is this man come on, blurred and zoomed youtube footage with tons of motion blur really? I can post screens of bad looking areas of R&C without all the blur and compression in gameplay, and you can see if its cuts corners or not.

and some of you are saying that it looks a gen better than Forza (its still the greatest looking animated game ever)

Why you posted screenshots from PS4 ratchet?

 

[ManaByte]

And FS2020 is just a bunch of satellite pictures plastered around. Not quite like the textures applied to enviromental polygons.

In FS2020 on the PC I was able to take off from my local airport in a prop plane and fly over to my house just from the visuals on the ground.

Rift Apart is amazing and impressive, but I think the stuff skirting photo realism like FS2020 and FH5 are more impressive. The Unreal 5 engine stuff is by far more impressive; especially the forest section of the early access release.

 

[Chiggs]

I have been to NYC, and trust me, this is not even CLOSE to been photorealistic

Wow, he's been to NYC, everyone! So elite!

 

[JTCx]

Its called Pixar5 for a reason.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Dunno, there can be many different ideas of what a "best looking game" is supposed to be.

One could argue Marbles at night or Minecraft RTX with texture and shader mods are the best looking games to date for example.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Absolutely incredible! And some people are still trying to make FlightSim happen lol. So much denial. What's next, Euro Truck?

Don't you dare diss Euro Truck!

 

[DenchDeckard]

Probably longer than 5 months in some areas. Kind of difficult to compare the two.

i do think forza looks better from the DF footage on my oled tv. The same tv I’m playing ratchet on, but seriously ratchet is an amazing game and it’s gorgeous in places especially cutscenes but ultimately we should want graphics to improve as Quickly as possible on either Gen. Devs keep pushing the envelope devs.
both games are awesome but this thread is literally asking if there’s a better looking game right now, I don’t Think there is but if FH5 looks identical to the footage I just watched on DF then that will be the best looking game I’ve seen until something else comes along.

 

[MasterCornholio]

i do think forza looks better from the DF footage on my oled tv. The same tv I’m playing ratchet on, but seriously ratchet is an amazing game and it’s gorgeous in places especially cutscenes but ultimately we should want graphics to improve as Quickly as possible on either Gen. Devs keep pushing the envelope devs.
both games are awesome but this thread is literally asking if there’s a better looking game right now, I don’t Think there is but if FH5 looks identical to the footage I just watched on DF then that will be the best looking game I’ve seen until something else comes along.

It won't be the best looking in everything. Like the RT reflections for example. Ratchet isn't a huge open world racer so it's able to push several aspects of it's visuals harder. Once you see the stills you will see what I mean.

 

[Allandor]

It is a great looking game for sure. But best looking ... it has a comic look so this is something that looks even great with less detail than a game with a more realistic look. So I wouldn't say best looking game.

 

[GhostOfTsu]

I haven't said a word for weeks, but the hype for this Mario-esque children's game comes off as forced.

You think this is forced? There was a big update for Flight Simulator today. The thread about it is completely dead. It is just that one poster talking by himself (12 posts since this morning) and the announcement trailer is also dead after the first page. Which one is more forced now? It's obvious what's going on.

Look the same poster tried another thread about the Xbox showcase and it's already dead after 2 posts (on page 2 already). You need more proof?

Microsoft Flight Simulator First Xbox Gameplay & New Features (also coming to PC)

It was shared today during the Xbox showcase. It shows actual gameplay and all the new features added (and also coming to PC) to make the sim more accessible and attractive to newbies. Some stuff, like skis and floats, is also great for simmers, and they pretty much confirmed the addition of...

www.neogaf.com

How come you guys are all here and not playing and discussing this simulation? I thought the hype was real?

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Imagine unironically arguing over something that is 100% subjective. Have we reached peak autism?

 

[MiguelItUp]

Imagine unironically arguing over something that is 100% subjective. Have we reached peak autism?

You're not wrong, but welcome to modern gaming, and NeoGAF. Lmao.

I personally think the game looks solid for sure, at least from all of the footage I've seen. But I personally don't think it's the most beautiful and best looking thing I've seen.

 

[DenchDeckard]

It won't be the best looking in everything. Like the RT reflections for example. Ratchet isn't a huge open world racer so it's able to push several aspects of it's visuals harder. Once you see the stills you will see what I mean.

Completely agree, of course certain games will do certain aspects better and that’s awesome. I’ve not seen anything like the particles like returnal. Raytracing in Ratchet is awesome and well implemented. The rock scans etc and foliage that reacts to cars ina.huge open world on FH5 is like hnnnng.

 

[Excess]

You think this is forced? There was a big update for Flight Simulator today. The thread about it is completely dead.

If anything, that would be the most glaring indicator, unless you're saying Ratchet looks better than Flight Sim.

Spoiler

(No one would say that.)

 

[Loope]

You think this is forced? There was a big update for Flight Simulator today. The thread about it is completely dead. It is just that one poster talking by himself (12 posts since this morning) and the announcement trailer is also dead after the first page. Which one is more forced now? It's obvious what's going on.

wtf? What does one thing have to do with the other. The permise of this thread is precisely which game or games look the best until now, FS2020 it's an opinion like any other.

 

[GhostOfTsu]

wtf? What does one thing have to do with the other. The permise of this thread is precisely which game or games look the best until now, FS2020 it's an opinion like any other.

I was quoting that poster that said the hype for Ratchet is fake.

You're gonna tell me the hype for FlightSim is real when all the threads about it are dead with no discussion?

 

[Calverz]

 

[Gamer79]

Why you posted screenshots from PS4 ratchet?

LOL those screenshots he posted no way represent how it looks in game. Looks 5x better especially with a proper HDR 4k quality tv.

 

[CatLady]

It's more like they don't want to recognize the PS5 as being a powerful system. Game looks great and even the tech sites said the same. The ones calling the visuals poor are in denial.

I don't think anyone is calling the visuals poor, if they are I missed it and they're wrong. It's not a game or an art style that appeals to me personally, but even so I can easily see that it is a very well made game with great graphics. For fans of more cartoon-like games I can certainly see why you would love the look of the game.

The problem is Sony fans think any 1st party Sony game is the greatest thing ever and expect everyone to just accept that whatever Sony game of the moment is the greatest ever, most advanced, best graphics, best gameplay etc. etc.

Guess what, there are a lot of people that aren't going to go along with that, especially not anymore when you have games that are spectacular looking and really pushing amazing true next gen tech. Games that are far more detailed and complex than whatever game of the moment Sony fans are claiming is the greatest ever.

It's all opinions, but my opinion is how in the world anyone can claim R&C looks better than FH5 and most especially FS2020 is beyond me. I'm going to guess you and the most avid Sony fans will feel the exact opposite.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Completely agree, of course certain games will do certain aspects better and that’s awesome. I’ve not seen anything like the particles like returnal. Raytracing in Ratchet is awesome and well implemented. The rock scans etc and foliage that reacts to cars ina.huge open world on FH5 is like hnnnng.

The generation is young. Sony and Microsoft will produce games better looking than Ratchet and FH5. Neither system is broken or underpowered so that will happen.

 

[MasterCornholio]

I don't think anyone is calling the visuals poor, if they are I missed it and they're wrong. It's not a game or an art style that appeals to me personally, but even so I can easily see that it is a very well made game with great graphics. For fans of more cartoon-like games I can certainly see why you would love the look of the game.

The problem is Sony fans think any 1st party Sony game is the greatest thing ever and expect everyone to just accept that whatever Sony game of the moment is the greatest ever, most advanced, best graphics, best gameplay etc. etc.

Guess what, there are a lot of people that aren't going to go along with that, especially not anymore when you have games that are spectacular looking and really pushing amazing true next gen tech. Games that are far more detailed and complex than whatever game of the moment Sony fans are claiming is the greatest ever.

It's all opinions, but my opinion is how in the world anyone can claim R&C looks better than FH5 and most especially FS2020 is beyond me. I'm going to guess you and the most avid Sony fans will feel the exact opposite.

You know that Xbox fans do the same thing right?

In the end there's nothing wrong with saying the visuals are great when they are great.

Anyways regarding Ratchet it's not only the screens that make me say that it's impressive but also what the tech analysts are saying about it.



Insomniac are doing a heck of a lot with the game and they should be praised for it. I'd say the same about any other game (Xbox included) that's impressive.

 

[Negotiator101]

Playing on fidelity and while it looks great it looks no where near the screen shots on my 55. Looks great but far from the best ever

 

[Negotiator101]

Across console and PC I would posit:

1. Ratchet
2. Horizon: FW (what we saw so far was bonkers)
3. Demon's Souls or Metro: Exodus on PC with full RT.

All PS5 games, can't we have unbiased opinions for once?

 

[Negotiator101]

Probably longer than 5 months in some areas. Kind of difficult to compare the two.

Well the enhanced metro has both beat when it comes to lighting, neither of these games have RTGI.

 

[MasterCornholio]

All PS5 games, can't we have unbiased opinions for once?

I think it's safe to say that they are the best looking games on the platform. If anything they prove that the system is capable of some nice experiences.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Well the enhanced metro has both beat when it comes to lighting, neither of these games have RTGI.

How are the reflections in Metro?

I haven't really looked at the game so I don't know how good they are.

 

[Negotiator101]

I think it's safe to say that they are the best looking games on the platform. If anything they prove that the system is capable of some nice experiences.

Yes but this is his/her best graphics on any system.

 

[Hezekiah]

It's either Ratchet, or after its recent visuals upgrade, Halo Infinite.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Yes but this is his/her best graphics on any system.

What's wrong with that if it's just an opinion?

I honestly don't believe those games are not up there with the best.

 

[Negotiator101]

How are the reflections in Metro?

I haven't really looked at the game so I don't know how good they are.

No raytraced reflections unfortunately, unless yiu play on PC. RTGI is absolutely gorgeous though, just really perfomance intensive.

 

[Loope]

I was quoting that poster that said the hype for Ratchet is fake.

You're gonna tell me the hype for FlightSim is real when all the threads about it are dead with no discussion?

Of course the hype is not fake for Ratchet, neither is for FS just because people don't post in that particular thread. I will agree is not a game for everyone, actually it is quite niche in my opinion.

 

[MasterCornholio]

No raytraced reflections unfortunately, unless yiu play on PC. RTGI is absolutely gorgeous though, just really perfomance intensive.

That's the one thing with RT that Ratchet does extremely well. But you're right on how lighting is pretty intensive.

 

[Negotiator101]

It's either Ratchet, or after its recent visuals upgrade, Halo Infinite.

Halo Infinite? I thought it looked very nice but obviously its 120fps so until we see the campaign again and see the improvement I wouldn't put it up there with Ratchet. Forza is obviously but more impressive, but it's still being worked on so it will improve.

 

[VeganElduderino]

Yes but this is his/her best graphics on any system.

Yeah! Well , you know , that's just like his opinion , man!