I don't jest about that, actually i hate that stupid shit.Once i even read that PC had no games because it was the wrong kind of games according to some posters (lack of 3rd view cinematica action games)
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Microsoft has acquired 3̶ 5 more studios
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Bernd Lauert
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Can't believe so few people picked Playtonic. It's the obvious choice.
kuncol02
Banned
Which studio MS bought you expected to release games? Most of them are still releasing games (or just released) they were already making before acquisition.
oldergamer
Member
What are you talking about. 3 years ago ms only had 6 studios. You might want to check what titles they published last year. The list will only grow.
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JLB
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They do had a problem of lack of studios. Now they dont. Releasing AAA games takes time. Other studios released games as earlier as end of last year. It will take time.
JLB
Banned
Oh, again the 500 million budget. Some hoaxes keep coming it seems.
By they way, by your message looks like MS is the only company with delays on releases.
VectorVictor
Member
Not disagreeing with the NFL, NHL, or the FIFA license there. But those aren’t the only sports titles they make, and there’s a big one (in the US and Canada) that’s being resurrected that won’t have those stipulations.
Plus the Dragon Age, Mass Effect, Battlefield, and Plants vs. Zombies licenses aren’t slouches either.
But Microsoft still has enough repatriated funds to straight up buy out EA and still make more waves.
Alphagear
Member
No the point is 20 odd studios couldn't even manage a single major release in that timeframe.
Majority of those studios were bought before Insomniac games were acquired by Sony in 2019. Insomniac have released 2 titles since then.
Nonsense.
kuncol02
Banned
MS could easily circumvent that by releasing "legacy edition" for PS5 like they are doing with Switch.
Insomniac has 2 teams. Before 2018 Microsoft excluding Minecraft had what 4-5 single team studios turn 10, the coalition, 343, rare. If you don't think this was an issue your being disingenuous. Take turn 10 out of the picture they do incredible bi annual releases all generation. That leaves what 3-4 teams on a 4-5 year cycle how many games are getting released?
anthony2690
Gold Member
Interesting, looking forward to the Sunday show.
kuncol02
Banned
I just realized that Playground was independent till 2018. XBox first party situation was worse than I though.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Any word on who they could be?
GrayFoxPL
Member
No Japanese studios, right?
zaanan
Banned
Sit down son, the adults are talking.
digoutyoursoul
Member
I’d love them to reboot the likes of Golden Axe and Shinobi along with it
MScarpa
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Aww don't be mad kiddo. You all in them feelings? Kind of funny you call me son. Considering I'm a woman. But hey, maybe someday I'll identify as a man.
Until then, if you need any MANpons, i got you cutie. ☺
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
They need more until they have one that does Banjo Threeie.
supernova8
Banned
If so they'll need a lot more than 26 because they're not even close. More like no new games for more than a year.
DaGwaphics
Member
If so they'll need a lot more than 26 because they're not even close. More like no new games for more than a year.
Games take time to make. MS isn't Amazon, the studios they have will produce content, that's never been an issue for them. The problem has always been not enough studios.
sircaw
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As long as they are going to produce quality and not quantity, that is what matters in the end.
zaanan
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*sigh* I don’t normally do this, but on the off-chance you are arguing in good faith (no evidence thus far): reading the headline and concluding “devs leaving 343 = devs leaving Japan Studio!” is completely off-base. You need to actually read the article to understand the point, which is that Halo Infinite - one game, the only game the studio is working on, the most important game in the Xbox brand - has been in development hell for years, and that seems to be why folks are leaving. But in spite of this, MS is not closing the studio or anything.
Japan Studio on the other hand, there is no development hell. Several of their latest games have underperformed (which I hate, bc they are good games), and therefore Sony is closing/consolidating the studio into the Team Asobi studio. Which (rightfully) pissed off some folks, who then left.
See the difference? Classic case of
vs 
And that’s all the time I’ve got for this, hope it helps you more perfectly understand the real issue being discussed.
supernova8
Banned
SIE seems to have only 14 studios, and Microsoft has 20+ studios, yet MS still struggles to get games out the door.
There is a possibility that it's an issue of planning/organization and not purely them not having enough studios.
Microsoft haven't have 20+ studios for long, you know that right?
onesvenus
Member
Come on, you can understand this, it's not hard at all.
For how long have SIe had more than 10 studios? For how long has Microsoft?
CircusOfValues
Banned
Looking forward to next year's Microsoft + Bethesda + Ubisoft E3 showcase.
DaGwaphics
Member
Certainly, enjoyable experiences are a must.
kuncol02
Banned
Because AAA games are made in months.
DaGwaphics
Member
When they acquire a studio that has just released a title or is in the process of releasing one, the next project out is going to take a minute.
Neo_game
Member
Any reason for having more. They have some 23, so they should be releasing at least 20 games in next 5yrs ? Had they planned and managed resources properly there is no reason to have more. They need better leadership and efficiency not more game studios.
Ghost of Caelid
Banned
Larian would mean they fully grabbed every major wrpg studio out there.
Shelookdlvl18
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I wonder what the strategy will be for these people who live to hate on MS once these studios start releasing games?
Right now, they're all about "They buy studios but can't release games". It's a worthy tactic, but unless MS acquired all those studios to simply shutter them, then it has to be obvious to everyone that this tactic if "MS can't release games" won't play out well long term.
Once the inevitable happens, what then? There's no doubt the narrative will change, but what does it change to? Games don't matter? Single player cinematics are what makes a console good? QTE's in games is the metric which determines the best platform?
Right now, they're all about "They buy studios but can't release games". It's a worthy tactic, but unless MS acquired all those studios to simply shutter them, then it has to be obvious to everyone that this tactic if "MS can't release games" won't play out well long term.
Once the inevitable happens, what then? There's no doubt the narrative will change, but what does it change to? Games don't matter? Single player cinematics are what makes a console good? QTE's in games is the metric which determines the best platform?
Shelookdlvl18
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That's odd. You'd think someone as unbiased and so experienced in the profession would know how the industry actually works, rather than simply going for the typical console warring schtick.
Yet here we are.
Papacheeks
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No thats the opposite. They had studios and teams, but literally closed down Lion head, among others and never really replaced them with anything. They never expanded some of the studios until last couple years.
They literally wasted an entire gen, and now the past couple years are trying to play catch up. But in doing so instead if internally growing your studios, and cultivating ones through long terms relationships. They just went and bought a bunch of them. Created a couple from scratch.
Teams having synergy to the levels seen at other successful studios takes years/multiple projects to get to that stage.
I think the issue wont be the amount of content, but ultimatly the quality of it, and how it stacks against other software as time goes on.
ALSO it's hard to have faith, in a company that seems incapable of managing the studios they do have.
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oldergamer
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simply put, you have no idea what they have. neither do we.If so they'll need a lot more than 26 because they're not even close. More like no new games for more than a year.
OceanGaming
Member
They left before the closure. And why in the world do they have to be totally equivalent? Are we throwing down slide rules here?*sigh* I don’t normally do this, but on the off-chance you are arguing in good faith (no evidence thus far): reading the headline and concluding “devs leaving 343 = devs leaving Japan Studio!” is completely off-base. You need to actually read the article to understand the point, which is that Halo Infinite - one game, the only game the studio is working on, the most important game in the Xbox brand - has been in development hell for years, and that seems to be why folks are leaving. But in spite of this, MS is not closing the studio or anything.
Japan Studio on the other hand, there is no development hell. Several of their latest games have underperformed (which I hate, bc they are good games), and therefore Sony is closing/consolidating the studio into the Team Asobi studio. Which (rightfully) pissed off some folks, who then left.
See the difference? Classic case of
And that’s all the time I’ve got for this, hope it helps you more perfectly understand the real issue being discussed.
edit: I could of brought up Sony bend to where some leadership left after naughty dog took over their project.
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DaGwaphics
Member
They definitely didn't prioritize first-party enough in the past (probably the worst kept secret in gaming there). I'll let the studios release something before I try and build an opinion on whether or not becoming part of XGS has helped/hindered the games themselves.
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Papacheeks
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My point was they seem incapable of managing even current long standing studios like 343.
Also should have managed coalition better, I think Rod would have stayed if they hadn't made them a gears factory even though it was the studios choice. I would have just let them do whatever they wanted from the beginning. The reason they even went to them with the license was because they had no one else to work on gears at the time.
And this goes back to them relying too much on stable franchises.
You’re talking about a situation that clearly no longer exists and I wonder why. I could follow if Xbox had underperformed with 23+ studios before but that’s never existed.
Sit back and relax. They’re clearly not relying too much on anything at this stage.
Papacheeks
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So halo didn't have a shit showing last year, and had tons of articles talking about nothing but issues with it's development? Same is said about whats happening over at RARE with everwild.
They are relying on Bethesda and deals for gamepass more than anything this E3.