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[MasterCornholio]

Anything is possible when the res hit that sweet 1080p

Do i need to remind you that PS5 box got 4k and 8K logos on it?

Demon Souls doesn't run at 1080P and Spiderman 30 FPs RT mode isn't at 1080P.

Also both systems have 4K on the box and have demonstrated the ability to play 4K titles. They also have 8K as well but that hasn't been shown in any games yet. No idea what you're trying to say here but you really should so some research.

 

[AMSCD]

I just wish I could see it without youtube compression, but even if you get the Digital Foundry patreon files its pointless because they are just watching the 4K youtube video. I want to be able to see the micro effects that are being wiped away by the video compression all the time rather than just occasionally or when I pause it. That plus all the detail in the distance and in the darker areas.

He's talking about the rain and I bet most people can't even perceive that on their displays, makes it hard to talk about the graphics and it doesn't help that they have limited how much zooming they do now since that seemed to piss people off, when they only did it because they knew idiots were watching the comparisons on their mobile phones, I need to hold my phone 4 inches from my face to get the same size of image I see from my TV at 6-7 feet and even then its not a 4K display makes comparing 1080p to 1440p or 1440p to 2160p almost impossible.

So many games these days have too much detail to be seen in shitty youtube quality, like this one, but also games with a really minimal art style look like crap on youtube too, like The Pathless, that game looks so much better natively - in 30fps mode I mean, 60fps mode wipes away all of the detail as well, it sucks, IQ-wise - I wish publishers would set up a website where you can go see direct feed videos if you want, I'm sure most people don't gaf so it wouldn't even cost that much to host them.

The issue is probably that direct feed files mostly don't exist anymore, since they just send them straight to youtube.

Oh wait, I just had a thought, Sony could release their trailers on the Bravia Core service in higher quality, since that seems to be the point of that service. Sounds like too much of a niche case though.

Just FYI, YouTube often looks significantly better if you use the app rather than your browser.

 

[Krizalidx11]

Demon Souls doesn't run at 1080P and Spiderman 30 FPs RT mode isn't at 1080P.

Also both systems have 4K on the box and have demonstrated the ability to play 4K titles. They also have 8K as well but that hasn't been shown in any games yet. No idea what you're trying to say here but you really should so some research.

You're nitpicking, Spiderman MM performance RT locks the fps to a dynamic 1440p meaning it goes down to around 1080p

 

[MasterCornholio]

You're nitpicking, Spiderman MM performance RT locks the fps to a dynamic 1440p meaning it goes down to around 1080p

But you're saying that Demon Souls was 1080P as well as Ratchet. Also Miles Morales still has a 30FPS mode with RT that's much higher than 1080P. You're the one ignoring all the other modes and calling the games fake.

 

[muteZX]

You're nitpicking, Spiderman MM performance RT locks the fps to a dynamic 1440p meaning it goes down to around 1080p

imagine Cyber77 at 4K/RT ultra and poor 400 watt Nv 3090 unable to hold stable 30 fps .. so dropping resolution to 1800p or 1440p .. same shit.

 

[megreotsugua]

Judging by just the massive number of people Ratchet & Clank has triggered, we can say it with 100% certainty that it is definitely the best looking game out there.

Exactly.

 

[HAL-01]

But you're saying that Demon Souls was 1080P as well as Ratchet. Also Miles Morales still has a 30FPS mode with RT that's much higher than 1080P. You're the one ignoring all the other modes and calling the games fake.

Leave it, it’s a garden variety troll. They know they’re not saying anything in good faith

 

[Krizalidx11]

But you're saying that Demon Souls was 1080P as well as Ratchet. Also Miles Morales still has a 30FPS mode with RT that's much higher than 1080P. You're the one ignoring all the other modes and calling the games fake.

So my point about SM is true?!

Anyway i didn't mention DS because SM is clearly the heavier game on the console because of RT

 

[Kilau]

I’m not liking that ratchet design. He reminds me of talking Tom.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Leave it, it’s a garden variety troll. They know they’re not saying anything in good faith

Yeah I'll let Mod of War determine what's needs to be done. I'm going to stop feeding him.

 

[Krizalidx11]

imagine Cyber77 at 4K/RT ultra and poor 400 watt Nv 3090 unable to hold stable 30 fps .. so dropping resolution to 1800p or 1440p .. same shit.

RT on PC is a lot heavier than n consoles, you can lowered down to console levels and push at least 90fps 4k which is awesome with DLSS Quality mode

 

[megreotsugua]

This game looks like a Pixar CGI movie. I can only imagine what first party games from Sony Santa Monica and Guerilla will look like.

Sony will once again have the best-looking games this generation. Exciting times ahead!

 

[MasterCornholio]

This game looks like a Pixar CGI movie. I can only imagine what first party games from Sony Santa Monica and Guerilla will look like.

Sony will once again have the best-looking games this generation. Exciting times ahead!

I'm not sure if they will have the best but their games will certainly be up there.

 

[Heisenberg007]

This game looks like a Pixar CGI movie. I can only imagine what first party games from Sony Santa Monica and Guerilla will look like.

Sony will once again have the best-looking games this generation. Exciting times ahead!

Imagine God of War Part III that comes as a PS5 exclusive near the end of this generation, or if ND decides to make Uncharted 5 (or a new IP) for a 2026 release. Or Ghost of Tsushima 3. Or Horizon 3.

The possibilities are endless, and I can't imagine what beautiful things these first-party studios will be doing with the PS5. It's so great and honestly really hard to imagine.

 

[muteZX]

RT on PC is a lot heavier than n consoles, you can lowered down to console levels and push at least 90fps 4k which is awesome with DLSS Quality mode

Cyber77 is a PS4 / XO class game, it is not a native DX12 project, no mesh shader or RT only game so how do I actually have to use that 2000 euro 400 watt GPU .. turn off RT and play at XO level at 4K? At what resolution does 3090 actually tighten that full RT / rock solid 60+ fps .. at 1080p .. 900p ? Holy shit, totally shame. For now, I'm ignoring DLSS bullshittery.

 

[MightySquirrel]

Cyber77 is a PS4 / XO class game, it is not a native DX12 project, no mesh shader or RT only game so how do I actually have to use that 2000 euro 400 watt GPU .. turn off RT and play at XO level at 4K? At what resolution does 3090 actually tighten that full RT / rock solid 60+ fps .. at 1080p .. 900p ? Holy shit, totally shame. For now, I'm ignoring DLSS bullshittery.

Played 4K ultra with RT ata locked 60 on 3080 with DLSS. Most impressive game visually for now. [R&C won't change that]

 

[Rea]

So my point about SM is true?!

Anyway i didn't mention DS because SM is clearly the heavier game on the console because of RT

Demon's souls looks better, despite it is not using RT hardware.

 

[muteZX]

Played 4K ultra with RT ata locked 60 on 3080 with DLSS. Most impressive game visually for now. [R&C won't change that]

I am not buying 2000 euro GPU with 1000 watt PSU to play 1080p upscaled XO games, sorry.

 

[Soulblighter31]

Cyber77 is a PS4 / XO class game, it is not a native DX12 project, no mesh shader or RT only game so how do I actually have to use that 2000 euro 400 watt GPU .. turn off RT and play at XO level at 4K? At what resolution does 3090 actually tighten that full RT / rock solid 60+ fps .. at 1080p .. 900p ? Holy shit, totally shame. For now, I'm ignoring DLSS bullshittery.

Cyberpunk is not a console game. Its not a ps4/xo class game at all. I think its pretty clear by now they ported that shit from PC to consoles a month before launch. Cyberpunk was always a basically high end PC exclusive game. Since the first gameplay snippets appeared in 2018, it ran on a 1080TI, at 30 frames. Then it was showed running on a 2080TI. Then before launch it was on 3080s. You wont find too soon a console game that matches its visual output, simply because the hardware isnt there to do it in either of the new consoles. Fully realised ray tracing features in a vast open world city at the fidelity that Cyberpunk shows, its gonna be a tough benchmark to match, nevermind beat

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

imagine Cyber77 at 4K/RT ultra and poor 400 watt Nv 3090 unable to hold stable 30 fps .. so dropping resolution to 1800p or 1440p .. same shit.

Can't even hit 30fps with TRUE 4K.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Cyberpunk is not a console game. Its not a ps4/xo class game at all. I think its pretty clear by now they ported that shit from PC to consoles a month before launch. Cyberpunk was always a basically high end PC exclusive game. Since the first gameplay snippets appeared in 2018, it ran on a 1080TI, at 30 frames. Then it was showed running on a 2080TI. Then before launch it was on 3080s. You wont find too soon a console game that matches its visual output, simply because the hardware isnt there to do it in either of the new consoles. Fully realised ray tracing features in a vast open world city at the fidelity that Cyberpunk shows, its gonna be a tough benchmark to match, nevermind beat

It hasn't been ported to XSX/PS5 yet.
Keep trying though.

 

[Dream-Knife]

It hasn't been ported to XSX/PS5 yet.
Keep trying though.

It is currently on PC, so we can see what better hardware than the consoles, with the same gen stuff (Zen 2 and RDNA 2) looks like.

 

[kyliethicc]

No one has authority on how something looks. It clearly doesn't look like CG in gameplay. That's the most ridiculous statement I've heard on these boards.

 

[Soulblighter31]

It hasn't been ported to XSX/PS5 yet.
Keep trying though.

Keep trying what ? What do you believe its gonna happen when they release a native ps5 patch ? Huh ? The game goes bellow 60, at 1080p with RT on medium on a 6900XT. A 6900Xt is more than twice as fast than whats in a ps5/series x.

 

[sendit]

Played 4K ultra with RT ata locked 60 on 3080 with DLSS. Most impressive game visually for now. [R&C won't change that]

DLSS has multiple settings in Cyberpunk on the PC, which one did you use? DLSS is also a upscaling technique which reduces native resolution. Using DLSS Ultra Performance on Cyberpunk 2077 degrades the image quality considerably. There is no way your 3080 (I have a 3090) is running with anything other than DLSS Ultra Performance to achieve a solid 60 FPS at the settings you're playing at. Additionally, DLSS Ultra Performance reduces the native rendering resolution to 720p and upscales it to 4k.

 

[Faust]

Stick to the topic, folks. Enough with the derails around Cyberpunk and PC.

 

[Shmunter]

I love love love the Xbox gamers! Their minds aren't diluted. Possibly because they know their games will be shared with PC and so that keeps their heads level. Can't wait for the Sony ports to get rid of this nonsense jargon.

Carry on...

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[megreotsugua]

This is the best-looking game on any platform for now. Spider-man 2 from Insomniac will be in the oven longer than this game and that game will destroy any game in terms of graphics.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Anything is possible when the res hit that sweet 1080p

Do i need to remind you that PS5 box got 4k and 8K logos on it?

Like The Medium on Xbox?

 

[Heisenberg007]

Can't even hit 30fps with TRUE 4K.

This is something that I do not understand. When console games (such as R&C RA) shifts to dynamic 4K or reconstructed 4K for the 60 FPS mode, certain people go "brrrr, can't even do 4K / 60, while my $1,000 GPU does 4K at 60". But then the same people also praises the DLSS tech that their GPU has.

Don't they realize that DLSS is also Reconstructed? And their GPU isn't hitting native 4K either? It's so absurd.

 

[J_Gamer.exe]

Why is no one talking about how fucking beautiful smoke particles effects from explosion in R&C. It's so mesmerizing.

Explosions in particular looks cg like to me as does lots of the game at times and does probably to 99% of average people watching not looking for tiny differences.

The lack of visible edges on characters at times etc is very impressive. As is the post processing and all the methods used to give us that clear clean image with atmosphere.

Its a very good looking game.

When you get this close to cg there's not much further you can go in some areas. But the art style of ratchet leans itself to be closer to cgi easier imo.

The cg from recent Disney movies for eg has moved onto unbelievable levels in the last years, like lion king or even more recent, they look completely real its incredible. To completely match that level is almost impossible but as with diminishing returns you can get closer and closer all the time and the difference is less and less visible to the average consumer imo.

We have to remember this is effectively a launch game made in part in a pandemic with devs working from home probably.

Can't wait to see what games look like near the end of the gen.

 

[MightySquirrel]

DLSS has multiple settings in Cyberpunk on the PC, which one did you use? DLSS is also a upscaling technique which reduces native resolution. Using DLSS Ultra Performance on Cyberpunk 2077 degrades the image quality considerably. There is no way your 3080 (I have a 3090) is running with anything other than DLSS Ultra Performance to achieve a solid 60 FPS at the settings you're playing at. Additionally, DLSS Ultra Performance reduces the native rendering resolution to 720p and upscales it to 4k.

Heres my recommendation at 4K resolution:

Preset: Ray Tracing: Ultra
FG and abomination both Off
RT reflections ON
RT shadows ON
RT lighting OFF
DLSS Performance

= 60 fps locked visual bliss

[so you're right not every RT feature on]

 

[Darius87]

Ah i see u got triggered


well then, this will calm u down



Don't ignore the shadowing next time even in different day time lighting

is that suppose to show a downgrade?

 

[small_law]

After watching this, I took a look at my shelf and noticed that I've purchased and played every single ratchet & clank game. It's one of those series that you tend to forget how much you enjoy. I'm really looking forward to this one.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

This is something that I do not understand. When console games (such as R&C RA) shifts to dynamic 4K or reconstructed 4K for the 60 FPS mode, certain people go "brrrr, can't even do 4K / 60, while my $1,000 GPU does 4K at 60". But then the same people also praises the DLSS tech that their GPU has.

Don't they realize that DLSS is also Reconstructed? And their GPU isn't hitting native 4K either? It's so absurd.

exactly my point

 

[FranXico]

Congrats, you’ve argued that we shouldn’t discuss any game’s graphics before release on the minuscule possibility that they’re all faked. Wrap it up, everyone go home

He has a point though.
Look at this much more recent example of a trailer misrepresenting the actual game:


And where are my manners? Krizalidx11 welcome back, meirl!

 

[Redlight]

I agree with you. The degree that microsoft got outmaneuvered by cerny and sony on a hardware front is completely embarassing. The 12tflops is total paper tiger given the split memory pool. Maybe if all the memory was at the faster speed it would have stood a chance. It's obvious that sony recognized that memory would be the bottleneck of this gen and created a bespoke I/O system in an attempt to overcompensate - the goal being a REYES type of graphics rendering. The ps5 is the start/practice for devs - ps6 will continue and perfect this trend

But then again - the xsx was just built to be the ultimate game pass machine. They'll be successful in that regard.

Truly embarrassing.

 

[sendit]

Heres my recommendation at 4K resolution:

Preset: Ray Tracing: Ultra
FG and abomination both Off
RT reflections ON
RT shadows ON
RT lighting OFF
DLSS Performance

= 60 fps locked visual bliss

[so you're right not every RT feature on]

DLSS Performance drops the native rendering resolution to 1080p.

 

[demigod]

Ah i see u got triggered


well then, this will calm u down



Don't ignore the shadowing next time even in different day time lighting

lol meirl, what a fucking loser you are. Why you keep coming back after being permabanned just to get owned?

 

[jroc74]

I remember when this doctored screenshot made fanboys like "PS3 GOT CGI LEVELS !!!!"

Yeah this happens every few years because some people don't understand what CGI is

Let's wait for RnC then

But i'll leave you with some Sony exclusives

Ah i see u got triggered


well then, this will calm u down



Don't ignore the shadowing next time even in different day time lighting

You do realize that for PS5 games they start using the 'Captured on PS5" for a reason....right?

This game also had mix of game play and cinematic footage.

.......DF just broke down the footage and talks about the transition from cut scenes to gameplay....

But I know "some folks are always trying to ice skate uphill...."

He has a point though.
Look at this much more recent example of a trailer misrepresenting the actual game:


And where are my manners? Krizalidx11 welcome back, meirl!

 

[Raonak]

Best looking game I've seen, technically, artistically and philosophically.

And the fact they could do it with a power budget makes it even more impressive.

 

[MasterCornholio]

He has a point though.
Look at this much more recent example of a trailer misrepresenting the actual game:


And where are my manners? Krizalidx11 welcome back, meirl!

Meirl and his many friends. I haven't seen one of his alts in a while.

 

[SLB1904]

NOPE, i need to get my hands on it 1st


I remember the days of this man telling us PS3 can be your PC

Imagine accepting that because he "showed it" to the world ?!

dude is there anything going on on xbox side of things?

 

[Werewolfgrandma]

I’m not liking that ratchet design. He reminds me of talking Tom.

Oh shit thanks for that. It's now all I see. My youngest had one and my deep in dementia grandmother stole it, stopped taking to us and only hung out with Tom.

 

[Azurro]

I don't care what they say. No one has authority on how something looks. It clearly doesn't look like CG in gameplay. That's the most ridiculous statement I've heard on these boards.

Man, why are you picking fights on how "unimpressive" this looks, when everyone and their mothers are impressed with the visuals? Just because you think it's not using some specific shaders that would make it good looking for you? I remember you loved how Watchdogs looks despite looking extremely pedestrian and how you thought some indie Souls rip off like Mortal Shell looked as good as Demon's Souls? You aren't without your biases and you aren't even aware of them.

 

[dr guildo]

More pics :

 

[Elios83]

Lol I see that this game looks so good that some people are losing it trying uselessly to downplay it
And it's just the beginning, a first gen PS5 conceived game.
In a couple of months we'll see a full round of next gen Sony exclusives.

 

[MasterCornholio]

More pics :

Wow seeing those pics it definitely got an upgrade. Also nice butt.

 

[Redlight]

Best looking game I've seen, technically, artistically and philosophically.

Oh my.

You should know that people may not recognise satire if you don't mark it.

 

[SLB1904]

I remember when this doctored screenshot made fanboys like "PS3 GOT CGI LEVELS !!!!"

Yeah this happens every few years because some people don't understand what CGI is

that photo still looks like cgi to me.

Like Killzone 2 demo ?!!

The truth about a suspicious Killzone 2 trailer in 2005 finally comes out

Did you think first Killzone 2 footage looked fishy? Turns out, you weren't alone.

arstechnica.com

dude that was 16 years ago wtf