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[Md Ray]

tbh, 1260p on next gen consoles is pretty trash.

Not really. Especially if the game's targeting 60fps to begin with. If it was 30fps with crappy visuals, I'd agree with you.

You have to understand that these console GPUs, in reality, are much closer to the GPUs meant for 1440p gaming.

6700 XT - a GPU that should be a good bit faster than PS5/XSX GPU is marketed as "the sweet spot for 1440p gaming". Consoles, while being slower are marketed as "True 4K gaming". And we can see in this game neither of the "4K consoles" are actually hitting that 2160p.

 

[DarkMage619]

From same era thread:

XSX:



PS5:

This lends support to the PS5 version getting tailored treatment while Xbox getting the PC port. It makes sense with the Xbox GDK but developers will take time optimizing PS5 versions especially when they think it will sell the best. At least if Xbox won't get specific treatment it will get better graphical settings at cost of framerate.

 

[Concern]

So much for "dynamic res". Its 1800p with gimped physics and lower details on Ps5.

I'd like to see how it would perform pushing the same effects rather than cutting corners.

 

[M1chl]

This lends support to the PS5 version getting tailored treatment while Xbox getting the PC port. It makes sense with the Xbox GDK but developers will take time optimizing PS5 versions especially when they think it will sell the best. At least if Xbox won't get specific treatment it will get better graphical settings at cost of framerate.

Devs don't do much honestly, if it's UE4 for example, you just tweak the build, there isn't really much to do with platform specific code targeting the "to the metal" API, you can, but most devs don't touch it and it has a good reason, you can fuck something which engine is already doing on same API.

Because Cryengine sucks, we had to experiement a lot with KC: D and that's why the game was so buggy at launch.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

Struggles with 30 fps?!! Sounds like last gen slideshow

 

[longdi]

This lends support to the PS5 version getting tailored treatment while Xbox getting the PC port. It makes sense with the Xbox GDK but developers will take time optimizing PS5 versions especially when they think it will sell the best. At least if Xbox won't get specific treatment it will get better graphical settings at cost of framerate.

i dont think devs made special treatment for ps5 versions. it is more like sony api is really good, lean and fast. so devs are able to access the hardware fuller potential easily

 

[DForce]

So much for "dynamic res". Its 1800p with gimped physics and lower details on Ps5.

I'd like to see how it would perform pushing the same effects rather than cutting corners.

And you try to act like a neutral.

 

[M1chl]

And you try to act like a neutral.

U Concerned?

 

[Great Hair]

From same era thread:

XSX:



PS5:

So early in the gen and the PS5 already lowering effects in some games. Like our good old Era friends would say "Yikes"!

 

[Bo_Hazem]

How about this from VGtech?

Seems like gimped graphics (HW VRS is the suspect). Source: Lysandros

Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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[M1chl]

How about this from VGtech?

Seems like gimped graphics (HW VRS suspect). Source: Lysandros

Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

www.neogaf.com

Editing OG post, thanks for info : )

 

[SLB1904]

How about this from VGtech?

Seems like gimped graphics (HW VRS is the suspect). Source: Lysandros

Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

www.neogaf.com

Absolutely disgusting

 

[rickybooby87]

PS5 version has worse lighting and other graphical effects. it looks awful in comparison.

From era.

PC: (Same as xbox)

PS5

I wonder why DF didn't call that out? I am gonna boot up the demo on my PS5 to see if I can get similar image quality results.

 

[Tickle My Tendies]

I must not comment much i keep getting banned from spitting straight facts, mods hate me but I love them it's OK here's another fact :

SX is a poorly design system, 12tflops should be producing much better results but FLOPS isn't everything.

This is really your takeaway from all this? Everything presented in this thread and your first thought is "XsX bad?"

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Absolutely disgusting

Seems like DF's 800% zoom is glitched and can't zoom in and investigate like neutral tech channels.

 

[Bigdrakegreenblood]

INB4 the Xbox salt!

 

[Evilms]

How about this from VGtech?

Seems like gimped graphics (HW VRS is the suspect). Source: Lysandros

Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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[Loxus]

From same era thread:

XSX:



PS5:

Serious question.
How does one know it's the PS5 version?
Could be the PS4 version, seeing it's from reset.
Look nothing like from DF analysis.

 

[M1chl]

Serious question.
How does one know it's the PS5 version?
Could be the PS4 version, seeing it's from reset.
Look nothing like from DF analysis.

Well it, we don't know. So I didn't put that in OP.

 

[SLB1904]

INB4 the Xbox salt!

Too late. Some concerns already lost it

 

[alabtrosMyster]

We are going to keep having this 'fight' about resolution vs fps, aren't we?

It's not about resolution VS FPS, some people want to see a hint of superiority in their choosen console and they are willing to use inconclusive data to "prove" their point.

It's just annoying.

 

[Concern]

And you try to act like a neutral.

You seem concerned

Two threads have been made calling both versions 4k and dynamic resolution. Both were obviously wrong. Wanting real parity is a bad thing all of a sudden? Lol

 

[jroc74]

One X battling with PS5 on the resolution department. Another win for XSX as expected.

Edit: also PS5 have lower graphical and physics preset. Looks ugly.

So that clearly means the One X is way more powerful than the Series S then.

Thanks for clearing this up.

 

[v_iHuGi]

This is really your takeaway from all this? Everything presented in this thread and your first thought is "XsX bad?"

No no no, I didn't said SX is bad by any means, the value of SX is still incredible.

I just said that by tflops, the gpu should be producing better results, which points to a bottleneck elsewhere in the system, my bet? The Split RAM, hence the poorly designed approach I'm talking.

It's not a bad console lol

 

[DForce]

You seem concerned

Two threads have been made calling both versions 4k and dynamic resolution. Both were obviously wrong. Wanting real parity is a bad thing all of a sudden? Lol

Lets see..

You ignored the fact that people have pointed out texture filtering and frame-rate issues on XsX. Somehow no one can really spot any difference in most of the footage that was released only in certain areas that are located in certain parts of the game.

Look, I know people are always looking for the win, but people have to start being honest. It makes people look desperate. lol

 

[Dibils2k]

How about this from VGtech?

Seems like gimped graphics (HW VRS is the suspect). Source: Lysandros

Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

www.neogaf.com

he probabky used the wrong output ashe is known to do

 

[alabtrosMyster]

I get that resolution isnt everything but when you start hitting 1260p, it starts to look really blurry on 4k screens. 1440p already looks soft as it is. I'd rather games try and hit 1800p at 30 fps with higher graphical fidelity. 30 fps shooters like Gears, Uncharted, Mass Effect and Halo felt great to play. You just need good motion blur and proper framepacing.

Don't ruin another generation with a focus on resolution.

At least a lot of games offer the low fps option for those that are into this kind of thing. I mean sure you can play these shooters at 30fps, but try to switch between 30fps at whatever resolution and switch to 1440p 60, 30 invariably feels broken.

 

[GymWolf]

I don't know what the fuck they tested, but the ps5 version is not 60 locked in all situations, especially with hell on screen.

No huge dips of course, but no locked 60 either.

But in a game with mediocre graphic and fast paced gameplay, framerate is more important than resolution, so ps5 ha this one in the bag for now.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

PS5 has lower resolution and other settings, XSX can apparently drop a few frames? Who is the winner

 

[longdi]

PS5 has lower resolution and other settings, XSX can apparently drop a few frames? Who is the winner

SX imo. clearly.
5fps drops and still above 55fps with better graphics? not long ago, we were happy with 30fps on consoles

 

[Loope]

I don't know what the fuck they tested, but the ps5 version is not 60 locked in all situations, especially with hell on screen.

I've seen drops to 57~59 fps on the vgtech video, but it's not as bad as the MS console. Stiil, dont' understand how people call it locked.

 

[Loxus]

How about this from VGtech?

Seems like gimped graphics (HW VRS is the suspect). Source: Lysandros

Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

www.neogaf.com

So again.
PS5 out here pushing higher quality texture while maintaining 60@1800p.
And people bragging about higher res with lower quality texture with unstable frame rate.

PS5 should be nickname Undertaker for going 25-2 win/lost against the world's most powerful console.

 

[GymWolf]

I've seen drops to 57~59 fps on the vgtech video, but it's not as bad as the MS console. Stiil, dont' understand how people call it locked.

Yeah, it's not locked, like 99,99% of framerate modes on console.

But i guess it's an improvement from past gen performance modes where 60 frames were obtainable by watching a wall or the sky except for 2-3 games in the entire gen.

 

[Md Ray]

PS5 should be nickname Undertaker for going 25-2 win/lost

 

[Concern]

Lets see..

You ignored the fact that people have pointed out texture filtering and frame-rate issues on XsX. Somehow no one can really spot any difference in most of the footage that was released only in certain areas that are located in certain parts of the game.

Look, I know people are always looking for the win, but people have to start being honest. It makes people look desperate. lol

Desperate indeed.

Somehow asking for both to run identical settings is a bad thing lol. Thats quite a reach even for you.

The fact that we're only in the beginning of the gen and we already have a console cutting corners makes you wonder how will full new gen games run on these consoles.

But rage on

 

[SLB1904]

I cant believe this demo milked 3 threads lol

 

[J_Gamer.exe]

Why do developers insist on high resolution with the Series X when it’s clearly struggling to hold a consistent framerate?!

Anyway...ANOTHER ONE!

Its like a mandate from xbox hq.... we need wins.

"We have the highest resolution version"

Yes but at the cost of performance.

What next PS5 targest 6k at 20 fps.

"PS5 has the highest res version guys. "

They need to stop overstretching xbox hardware.

Xbox is around 55fps at points where ps5 is 60 but has to be way above in areas to only drop 1 frame here and there, probably like 70 for lots.

Weird why devs keep doing this though when the higher res xbox cant handle the res increase.

 

[DForce]

Desperate indeed.

Somehow asking for both to run identical settings is a bad thing lol. Thats quite a reach even for you.

The fact that we're only in the beginning of the gen and we already have a console cutting corners makes you wonder how will full new gen games run on these consoles.

But rage on

See how you ignored all the issues in regards to the Xbox version?

Don't need to pretend, dude. We can see right through it. lol

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Ok this is from the more professional VGTech:




From the description:

The versions tested were 1.003.000 on PS5 and 2.3.2102.230 on Xbox Series X|S. Note that these version numbers correspond to 0.1.0.0 in-game.

Xbox Series X uses a dynamic resolution with the highest native resolution found being approximately 3456x1944 and the lowest native resolution found being approximately 2261x1272. On Xbox Series X a form of temporal reconstruction is used to increase the resolution up to 3840x2160.

Xbox Series S uses a dynamic resolution with the highest native resolution found being approximately 2304x1296 and the lowest native resolution found being approximately 1536x864. On Xbox Series S a form of temporal reconstruction is used to increase the resolution up to 3840x2160.

PS5 uses a dynamic resolution with the highest native resolution found being approximately 3008x1692 and the lowest native resolution found being approximately 2112x1188. On PS5 a form of temporal reconstruction is used to increase the resolution up to 3840x2160.

The native rendering resolution changes often on PS5 and Xbox Series X. The native rendering resolution on Xbox Series S seems to usually be below 1920x1080.

PS5 and Xbox Series X have some graphical improvements compared to the Xbox Series S such as extra trees and foliage, some higher quality textures and an improved draw distance for some shadows. PS5 has improved texture filtering compared to Xbox Series X http://bit.ly/3b0UCbw

Stats: http://bit.ly/37TWDEq
Frames Pixel Counted: http://bit.ly/3aXYNFd

Overall, XSX is showing much worse clarity, low resolution assets to "fake" its way to "arguably" higher resolution:

Taken from VGTech Google Drive: (Thanks to Lysandros for the side by side crop)

PS5 and Xbox Series X|S Comparison - Google Drive

drive.google.com

[VGTech] Outriders PS5 and Xbox Series X|S Frame Rate Test (Demo)

We left this open overnight in the hope some actual conversation would take place, it's clear that this is not the intention of the thread. Instead of expending effort reply banning the usual culprits, we're just going to start closing these. We're not posting these video's just for a childish...

www.neogaf.com

 

[Mr Moose]

You seem concerned

Two threads have been made calling both versions 4k and dynamic resolution. Both were obviously wrong. Wanting real parity is a bad thing all of a sudden? Lol

They use dynamic resolution in this demo, how were both wrong?

 

[Loope]

So again.
PS5 out here pushing higher quality texture while maintaining 60@1800p.
And people bragging about higher res with lower quality texture with unstable frame rate.

PS5 should be nickname Undertaker for going 25-2 win/lost against the world's most powerful console.

So, the resolution varying between 1260p and 1800p means it maintains 60fps at 1800p. Ignoring the resolution assumption, going by the vgtech video it has drops also.

What is the texture resolution used on each console? Since you're talking about low quality textures compared to PS5. Bragging about wins on a demo and counting as a win is a bit worse than bragging about higher resolution.

 

[Concern]

See how you ignored all the issues in regards to the Xbox version?

Don't need to pretend, dude. We can see right through it. lol

You quoted me first crying over me asking for parity lol. But nice try. Go cry to someone who actually values your conspiracies and hot takes.

 

[Concern]

They use dynamic resolution in this demo, how were both wrong?

There's no 4k. One said its native and the other said dynamic 4k.

People just want to be the first to make a video/article regardless of how misleading or wrong their info is.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

So again.
PS5 out here pushing higher quality texture while maintaining 60@1800p.
And people bragging about higher res with lower quality texture with unstable frame rate.

PS5 should be nickname Undertaker for going 25-2 win/lost against the world's most powerful console.

PS5 is killing it, indeed. The most powerful console in the world.

 

[Mr Moose]

There's no 4k. One said its native and the other said dynamic 4k.

People just want to be the first to make a video/article regardless of how misleading or wrong their info is.

Oh I see, yeah if it ever does reach 4k it would be very very rare, even looking at the sky with nothing happening seems to get below it.

 

[Loxus]

So, the resolution varying between 1260p and 1800p means it maintains 60fps at 1800p. Ignoring the resolution assumption, going by the vgtech video it has drops also.

What is the texture resolution used on each console? Since you're talking about low quality textures compared to PS5. Bragging about wins on a demo and counting as a win is a bit worse than bragging about higher resolution.

Why you so butt hurt about my opinion?

 

[JackMcGunns]

Neither frame rate.

Yea, no one seems to notice Series X has no framerate.

 

[Concern]

Oh I see, yeah if it ever does reach 4k it would be very very rare, even looking at the sky with nothing happening seems to get below it.

The fucked up thing is these are still cross gen games. Looking like we will be needing pro consoles sooner than later. Or maybe these devs just need more time with the dev kits.

 

[Mr Moose]

The fucked up thing is these are still cross gen games. Looking like we will be needing pro consoles sooner than later. Or maybe these devs just need more time with the dev kits.

First party will make them shine We got some great looking games on PS4/Xbox One from first party teams.

 

[Concern]

First party will make them shine We got some great looking games on PS4/Xbox One from first party teams.

Easily they will. Still a shitty situation for our third-party games. Especially considering thats where most of our multiplayer games come from.