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[Freelance Yakuza]

Sony's most valuable asset

 

[Katatonic]

Adamsapple watching on the sidelines, unable to create the narrative spinning summary:

 

[MasterCornholio]

Adamsapple watching on the sidelines, unable to create the narrative spinning summary:

To be fair he usually does a good job with Digital Foubdry comparisons. It's news that he tends to manipulate to a certain degree. Like FF16 being a hard flop for example.

 

[Mr Moose]

Been a while since I played it. I do remember it being much sharper at launch on SX but it felt horrible to play. If PS5 feels the same hopefully they should drop the resolution.

It was 1440p back then too.

According to John's cancelled video from the release, it was always running DRS around 1440p on Series X and 1080p on Series S with a fairly close grip on 60fps despite the choppy update.

 

[Lysandros]

As an additional info; PS5 pushes ~110% more pixels compared to XSX in quality mode and ~55% more pixels in performance mode currently. I think this big gap should be reduced somewhat to stabilise the performance to XSX levels (edit: in performance mode, quality mode is running fine apparently.)

 

[Katatonic]

To be fair he usually does a good job with Digital Foubdry comparisons. It's news that he tends to manipulate to a certain degree. Like FF16 being a hard flop for example.

Maybe spinning sounds too harsh. Controlling then.

 

[RoboFu]

I wonder if non gamers ever look at DFs 400 x zoomed pics and think to themselves.. " wow games look like shit these days huh? "

 

[TrueGrime]

Thread is pretty funny, lol. Especially the first page. Did more than a few people go through the entire video?

DF: Series X and S are the more polished versions for various reasons.

Thread:

 

[MasterCornholio]

Maybe spinning sounds too harsh. Controlling then.

Like choosing what title to put and what sources to show. Which didn't reflect the actual situation. To be fair he isn't the only one that does this.

 

[Mr Moose]

Thread is pretty funny, lol. Especially the first page. Did more than a few people go through the entire video?

DF: Series X and S are the more polished versions for various reasons.

Thread:

The quality mode on PS5 is fine (and 4k), the only issue is in the performance mode.

Thankfully, the quality mode - which targets 30fps - doesn't seem to have this issue at all and maintained a locked frame-rate throughout my capture

 

[Gudji]

Bo_Hazem thread PS5 better version confirmed.

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

Holy shit, last time I was quoted this much my wife was PISSED at me.

Has a wife…humble brag

 

[TrueGrime]

The quality mode on PS5 is fine (and 4k), the only issue is in the performance mode.

Agree. Most likely a tool issue that can easily be patched. The AO exclusion on PS4/PS5 vice the S/X systems is an odd one though.

 

[Imtjnotu]

 

[DeepEnigma]

Agree. Most likely a tool issue that can easily be patched. The AO exclusion on PS4/PS5 vice the S/X systems is an odd one though.

It's the same bug the Xbox had and was patched. All the same early bugs are here and will probably get patched as well.

 

[Vox Machina]

You can tell a lot of people didn’t actually watch the video.

There's really never a need to watch a DF head-to-head video tbh. The warriors (either way) will summarize it for you faster than anyone can actually watch it.

 

[DeepEnigma]

There's really never a need to watch a DF head-to-head video tbh. The warriors (either way) will summarize it for you faster than anyone can actually watch it.

 

[Vox Machina]

Nah, it isn't.

Anyways, I'd encourage those interested in the game to give it a try. It's definitely not for everyone, but it's exactly the type of game that needs to keep existing in the AA space. Had a fair bit of fun with this one on PC.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Nah, it isn't.

Is it... is it self aware?

 

[TrueGrime]

There's really never a need to watch a DF head-to-head video tbh. The warriors (either way) will summarize it for you faster than anyone can actually watch it.

Not true. One would think the definitive version was PS5 just off the first page alone and it would be if we're going off pixel count alone, but that's not the case. DF gives their opinion of the best version. However, this is a VS thread and I expected warrior battles to happen when it comes to everyone's favorite plastic box. The sad thing is that it'll just never stay in VS threads, unfortunately.

Amusing to see the die-hard emotions either way.

 

[Fabieter]

Why does the PS5 IQ look better? More time as it cane out later? Not my type of game so never gonna play it, just asking out of interest. Do they conclude why in the video?

I think that's the case yes.

 

[Vox Machina]

Is it... is it self aware?

You need some new material. Your bot is looping.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

As an additional info; PS5 pushes ~110% more pixels compared to XSX in quality mode and ~55% more pixels in performance mode currently. I think this big gap should be reduced somewhat to stabilise the performance to XSX levels (edit: in performance mode, quality mode is running fine apparently.)

In performance mode PS5 is running at an average of 1800p in performance mode whereas Series X is at 1440p. But the framerate on the PS5 can suffer from frame rate drops in performance mode whereas Oliver said that the Series X stays at a locked 60fps. Here's an example of the PS5 fps drops:

Both comments added to the OP.

 

[Lysandros]

Both comments added to the OP.

Quality mode is 2160P for PS5 compared to XSX' 1440P, maybe to be precised as well.

 

[DeepEnigma]

You need some new material. Your bot is looping.

There's definitely a joke in there.

 

[shamoomoo]

Thread is pretty funny, lol. Especially the first page. Did more than a few people go through the entire video?

DF: Series X and S are the more polished versions for various reasons.

Thread:

Yeah, after being patched for performance problems,with the other consoles being an afterthought.

 

[cormack12]

Has a wife…humble brag

It's OK, the mistress does the heavy lifting.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Quality mode is 2160P for PS5 compared to XSX' 1440P, maybe to be precised as well.

 

[rofif]

I hate this game. Not as much as atomic heart though

 

[Freelance Yakuza]

Its a fun game, I hope more people get the chance to try it.

 

[Venom Snake]

It looks sharper yes, but those animation pacing issues along with the fps drops don't make it any better than the Xbox version.

If they can iron it out without changing image quality, i'll applaud them.

 

[Fbh]

GAF: "We want 60fps"
DF: "Performance mode runs like crap but the resolution is higher"
GAF:

 

[DeepEnigma]

I hate this game. Not as much as atomic heart though

Its a fun game, I hope more people get the chance to try it.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

GAF: "We want 60fps"
DF: "Performance mode runs like crap but the resolution is higher"
GAF:

 

[Games of Today]

A game that launched on Xbox as a timed exclusive has a higher resolution on PS5 even in quality mode?

Where's your powerful XSX now huh?

Jk lmao. But seriously that is strange.

 

[Physiognomonics]

What people don't understand is that Sony tools are also constantly improving.

 

[Xcell Miguel]

A game that launched on Xbox as a timed exclusive has a higher resolution on PS5 even in quality mode?

Where's your powerful XSX now huh?

Jk lmao. But seriously that is strange.

Maybe they'll update the Xbox and PC versions someday ?
On PC it has not been updated since March it seems.

Version on my PC (from the Windows Store) is 1.11.5668.0

 

[Roberts]

They will most likely patch it up very soon just like they did xbox version (day one version ran like crap and on the next day the patch made a whole lot of difference), but right now xbox version is clearly superior even with the lower resolution.

 

[rickybooby87]

 

[RobRSG]

Bigger resolution in expense of framerate is often what XSX does. Complaints are there every time it happens.

When the PS5 does it, it is somehow perceived as a win.

Funny ways for the fanboys to operate.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Bigger resolution in expense of framerate is often what XSX does. Complaints are there every time it happens.

When the PS5 does it, it is somehow perceived as a win.

Funny ways for the fanboys to operate.

 

[MarkMe2525]

What people don't understand is that Sony tools are also constantly improving.

This is very true, but I don't understand how that applies to this situation. At least with the current state of the game.

 

[Die Namek Ability]

Bigger resolution in expense of framerate is often what XSX does. Complaints are there every time it happens.

When the PS5 does it, it is somehow perceived as a win.

Funny ways for the fanboys to operate.

Something something VRR something something. It goes both ways my friend.

 

[Lysandros]

Bigger resolution in expense of framerate is often what XSX does. Complaints are there every time it happens.

When the PS5 does it, it is somehow perceived as a win.

Funny ways for the fanboys to operate.

Just to remark without the win/loose narrative: Quality mode is 2160P at a locked 30 FPS on PS5, it's a 110% higher resolution compared to XSX. So there is no "in expense of framerate" to be found there at least.

 

[MikeM]

I’d take the Xbox version. That performance mode is hot trash

 

[8BiTw0LF]

Performance mode:

XSS: ~1080p
XSX: ~1440p
PS5: ~1800p

 

[Duchess]

I wait for a patch. And a price drop.

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

It's OK, the mistress does the heavy lifting.

Has a mistress…super Chad

 

[Killjoy-NL]

I wonder if non gamers ever look at DFs 400 x zoomed pics and think to themselves.. " wow games look like shit these days huh? "

The majority of gamers don't give a sh*t unless things are pointed out and then they still don't really care.

But comparisons are always fun. Especially when a "9 Tflop" console outperforms his "significantly more powerful" competitor.

 

[lh032]

that 5 high on life fanboy must be very sad or excited on DF PS5/Series X comparison.