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[Bogroll]

It’s flawless enough I’d say, if you can say such a thing lol
I haven’t finished the career though but I’ve come a long way, so far I’ve only noticed dips for like a second or two at the first crowded turn, as the field spreads out the fps drops has gone away completely. Honestly, if there is a small texture assets differences at this point then I hope they keep it that way, I don’t want anything minor I won’t notice anyway ruining things now that it’s finally running well.
They should focus on making sprint races working instead!

You can tell the game was unfinished and while not perfect its at lot better now.

Btw Any idea what the button press "revert" does? As there is a "default" button when selecting options.

 

[Tickle My Tendies]

The game is on sale for 40 bucks, and even though I am not a huge racing game fan (I do love Forza Horizon, though), I am thinking of picking it up just to see it for myself after reading through all the analysis threads dedicated to the game.

I mean, is it a good game at least? Is it fun enough? I read it is a pretty easy Plat, 18-20 hours, so might pull the trigger on it today

 

[phil_t98]

It's been confirmed that it uses vrs (a disgusting feature that makes game look horrible and out of focus but somehow it's a pr word now )

But my comment was not that serious as they look very close tbh that no one should care really

Has it been confirmed it’s on Xbox series x because I know it was confirmed for PC

 

[geordiemp]

It's not fine-grained clocks, it's fine-grained clock gating. Clock gating is not tied to the frequency of a specific processor. Even the Pentium 4 had it as a feature, although primitive in comparison. This is one of the major reasons that RDNA 2 has the power savings that it has, and both the XSX and PS5 follow suit.

This is not a performance related feature, merely one that allows the GPUs to use less power.

Variable clocks and clock gating are not the same thing.

Refer once again to the paper here. Tests were done on a i5-2500K 3.3 GHz which was running at a static frequency.

That is a CPU, in a GPU all 4 shader arrays are in use, they are not been switched on and off, they have variable frequencies likely per DCU.

Lets face it, 1.825 GHz for RDNA2 is effectively switched low next to off, PC parts are topping 2.5 GHz average, god knows what individual DCU is hammering out.

I think AMD has not detailed this in full as not to embarrass MS.

 

[Leyasu]

But they didn't, it's like you don't have eyes.

Folliage matches and geometry appear to match with the untrained eye, textures certainly do not, and there's no indication yet of the performance hit, if there is one, which with increased details you'd imagine there would be.

This?



Lighting and reflections far better so didn't notice the sand, although now you've pointed it out, it's clearly far better on PS5 also. Series X seems to have less tessellation, I guess as there are less rocks on the puddle on the left hand side (although some of these appear to be there just not lit properly, some are also clearly missing), AF also noticeably worse still.

Not even sure where you are looking to claim it's better on series x

I've highlight some areas where the difference is stark.



I suspect it's mostly down to the inferior lighting on Series X, but the front highlighted section is not as detailed on series x and appears flat, maybe a lack of bump mapping and lower tessellation being applied. Probs need NX Gamer to throw his expertise at it, the guy that did this video, usually does it first which is good, but doesn't really know what he's talking about and doesn't line up his shots so they are like for like, each side by side is slightly offset from the one next to it.

Not to be too picky. But,

The shots are not exactly aligned and the time of day/weather conditions are not the same.

That is not the best shot imo

 

[Bogroll]

The game is on sale for 40 bucks, and even though I am not a huge racing game fan (I do love Forza Horizon, though), I am thinking of picking it up just to see it for myself after reading through all the analysis threads dedicated to the game.

I mean, is it a good game at least? Is it fun enough? I read it is a pretty easy Plat, 18-20 hours, so might pull the trigger on it today

Its ok, I got it for £15 digital and I'm glad I never paid more. Definitely a ddrop in quality from the usual Dirt games imo.
If you want it Id buy on disk then sell on.

 

[Derktron]

This comparison is such garbage only because they don’t show actual gameplay to show off the game and it’s performances.

 

[HoofHearted]

This comparison is such garbage only because they don’t show actual gameplay to show off the game and it’s performances.

Eh - That's because the overall gameplay is going to be the same on both systems..

This game seems to swing both ways (depending on which patch you're running) with respect to rendering of assets/images.

We've seen enough details across multiple cross-gen multi-plat games now to confirm that both of these systems will yield the expected resolution and 60fps target(s) 99.999% of the time.

So far we've had:

• Initial release of this game on XSX was wrong build target for high resolution/graphical modes (fixed)
• Latest patch supposedly introduces some FPS instability on PS5 (at least for some)
• Of particular note -
  • Compared to the original #headlightgate cutscene:
    • Not sure WTF is going on with the garage cutscenes between XSS/XSX/PS5 -
    • It's appears to be much more than just lighting source/location?
    • Whatever it is - there's clearly a significant difference there in overall visual presentation:
      • Example - Look at 16:07 (Resolution mode - timestamped)
        • Check out differences in lights
        • Check out the sharpness details in the tires (treads / sidewall)
        • Check the hood - lines, decals, etc.
        • Check the detail and clarity inside the car (right above the tire)
        • Check the seat through the window
        • Check the overall lighting and shadows:
          • Crossbars
          • Wheels
          • Windshield wiper
          • Underneath the vehicle
    • Overall PS5 looks bland, muted, flat, and out of focus compared to XSS/XSX here - certainly not expected (should be the same)...

 

[Fredrik]

You can tell the game was unfinished and while not perfect its at lot better now.

Btw Any idea what the button press "revert" does? As there is a "default" button when selecting options.

Revert just goes back to your HDR settings from last time you went out of the menu to the game, default is the standard default settings from the dev.

 

[Tickle My Tendies]

Its ok, I got it for £15 digital and I'm glad I never paid more. Definitely a ddrop in quality from the usual Dirt games imo.
If you want it Id buy on disk then sell on.

Thanks for the reply. I decided to wait it out for an even cheaper sale.

 

[Leyasu]

So PS5 wins again... no surprises here then.

PS5 has cemented its legacy as the most powerful console in the world. Well done Mark Cerny

Lol @ using this game for anything. Forza horizon @ 60hz annihilates this game at the same settings. If it a had 120hz mode it would still be the same.

GT sport looks better than dirt 5 too

 

[DarkMage619]

It appears that the PS5 version is missing some reflections here. This might not be the best title to gloat about the PS5 performance prowess. Let's just stick with every platform has pros and cons and leave it at that.

 

[DJ12]

Not to be too picky. But,

The shots are not exactly aligned and the time of day/weather conditions are not the same.

That is not the best shot imo

Not to be picky, but have you watched the video?

Track previews all seem to be like for like. In addition to that the videos look the same the ps5 just is emerging from dark to light so looks brighter. Before it looks to be an identical time of day and weather like all the other track previews

 

[Panajev2001a]

It appears that the PS5 version is missing some reflections here. This might not be the best title to gloat about the PS5 performance prowess. Let's just stick with every platform has pros and cons and leave it at that.

The reflections are still there, you are looking at specular highlights and the XSX|S scene has a different lighting setup (ToD maybe) than the PS5 screen there.

Still yes, they each have their pros and cons which is what PS5 fans have always said when the topic was just 12>10 or 9 repeated ad nausea and 18% in favour of XSX being the minimum difference you can expect vs PS5. Glad you agree now .

 

[MasterCornholio]

It appears that the PS5 version is missing some reflections here. This might not be the best title to gloat about the PS5 performance prowess. Let's just stick with every platform has pros and cons and leave it at that.

So why does the Series S has it if the PS5 can't handle those reflections?

It could just be a bug like the headlights the XSX version had before the patch.

 

[Hayabusabruh]

Textures on the road on that dirt track on PS5 on FPS mode still look better. Other than that looks pretty similar. So far.

Edit: damn FPS mode looks like shit on Series S. A better looking shit on the X a bit better looking shit on PS5.

Edit 2: still saw tearing on the SX version here and there, on intro scenes. Overall it looks 99% identical to PS5 though, so good for the X owners. It's almost as good as PS5 now, at release it looked so bad in comparison

Dude you're Pony af! The passion!

 

[DarkMage619]

The reflections are still there, you are looking at specular highlights and the XSX|S scene has a different lighting setup (ToD maybe) than the PS5 screen there.

Still yes, they each have their pros and cons which is what PS5 fans have always said when the topic was just 12>10 or 9 repeated ad nausea and 18% in favour of XSX being the minimum difference you can expect vs PS5. Glad you agree now .

It's the same scene. Every other shot in the video is like for like. This is the same internal garage shot and the car reflections are missing on PS5. I am making no claim to power differential as some Sony fans are making only that these cross generational launch titles aren't something for Sony fans to be boasting about. I played no part in any references about 12, 11, 10 or 9 anything I am only commenting on what the picture shows.

So why does the Series S has it if the PS5 can't handle those reflections?

It could just be a bug like the headlights the XSX version had before the patch.

I never said anything about PS5 not being able to handle anything. It could be a bug and perhaps just perhaps we shouldn't be using these cross gen titles to make any claims about power. Just a thought. thicc_girls_are_teh_best make a thread about this very point and was attacked pretty quickly.

 

[DJ12]

It's the same scene. Every other shot in the video is like for like. This is the same internal garage shot and the car reflections are missing on PS5. I am making no claim to power differential as some Sony fans are making only that these cross generational launch titles aren't something for Sony fans to be boasting about. I played no part in any references about 12, 11, 10 or 9 anything I am only commenting on what the picture shows.


I never said anything about PS5 not being able to handle anything. It could be a bug and perhaps just perhaps we shouldn't be using these cross gen titles to make any claims about power. Just a thought. thicc_girls_are_teh_best make a thread about this very point and was attacked pretty quickly.

He made the thread as he thought it was safe to do so now dirt had apparently been fixed, turns out its still not got the same quality settings in all modes as ps5. The only thing quick to judge round here are xbox fans desperate for the dub ya.

At least wait until there's been some comparisons. It will stop half this damage control, the other half you do for the lols

 

[Bogroll]

It's the same scene. Every other shot in the video is like for like. This is the same internal garage shot and the car reflections are missing on PS5. I am making no claim to power differential as some Sony fans are making only that these cross generational launch titles aren't something for Sony fans to be boasting about. I played no part in any references about 12, 11, 10 or 9 anything I am only commenting on what the picture shows.


I never said anything about PS5 not being able to handle anything. It could be a bug and perhaps just perhaps we shouldn't be using these cross gen titles to make any claims about power. Just a thought. thicc_girls_are_teh_best make a thread about this very point and was attacked pretty quickly.

Also some reflections missing on cars in gameplay on Ps5.

 

[Bogroll]

He made the thread as he thought it was safe to do so now dirt had apparently been fixed, turns out its still not got the same quality settings in all modes as ps5. The only thing quick to judge round here are xbox fans desperate for the dub ya.

At least wait until there's been some comparisons. It will stop half this damage control, the other half you do for the lols

Just keep reloading your games as that gpu needs a rest as it can't keep up its performance. The Ps4 loads games faster on average the amount of times you have to reload the games on PS5.

 

[DarkMage619]

He made the thread as he thought it was safe to do so now dirt had apparently been fixed, turns out its still not got the same quality settings in all modes as ps5. The only thing quick to judge round here are xbox fans desperate for the dub ya.

At least wait until there's been some comparisons. It will stop half this damage control, the other half you do for the lols

Are you saying one of those quality setting on the PS5 removes the reflections? And this is a win for the PS5 because no reflections is better? And all of this means Xbox fans are desperate? Makes perfect sense to me

 

[ethomaz]

Just keep reloading your games as that gpu needs a rest as it can't keep up its performance. The Ps4 loads games faster on average the amount of times you have to reload the games on PS5.

Do you have to reload games on PS5? Are your PS5 faulty?

 

[Bogroll]

Do you have to reload games on PS5? Are your PS5 faulty?

Yes all 27 of them.

 

[ethomaz]

Yes all 27 of them.

You should ask a replacement if that is the case.

 

[Mr Moose]

It appears that the PS5 version is missing some reflections here. This might not be the best title to gloat about the PS5 performance prowess. Let's just stick with every platform has pros and cons and leave it at that.

Only one has reflections in this shot.

 

[II_JumPeR_I]

No, XSX has static clocks. Go look up what Pervasive and fine clock gating means.



The XSX CPU is server class, MS said so and its CU arrangement is also server arrangement, thats why 52 CU is just about matching 36 CU if thats not too hard a concept for you.

Crying, how old are you son ?

No you have not shown any understanding in any post.

You really dont know what you are talking about... but warriors need their bs i guess

 

[M1chl]

No, XSX has static clocks. Go look up what Pervasive and fine clock gating means.



The XSX CPU is server class, MS said so and its CU arrangement is also server arrangement, thats why 52 CU is just about matching 36 CU if thats not too hard a concept for you.

Crying, how old are you son ?

No you have not shown any understanding in any post.

CPU is "server class" as in Ryzen Pro, for additional security, which is something I believe both console using.

 

[MasterCornholio]

I never said anything about PS5 not being able to handle anything. It could be a bug and perhaps just perhaps we shouldn't be using these cross gen titles to make any claims about power. Just a thought. thicc_girls_are_teh_best thicc_girls_are_teh_best make a thread about this very point and was attacked pretty quickly.

If there's a significant difference between the two it should show with cross gen games. Kind of like how CoD Ghosts ran at a higher resolution on the PS4 than the X1.

Now if the systems are extremely close like then it can go either way with cross gen games. Maybe the XSX will start beating the PS5 in every single multiplat but there's no indication of that happening yet and maybe it will never be a thing.

No idea what people are supposed to wait for because both systems will get better with age.

Edit: Now before you misunderstand I'm not saying that either is vastly more powerful than the other. They are very similar and each will have its own set of advantages. Definitely not a PS4 vs X1 kind of situation.

 

[Leyasu]

Not to be picky, but have you watched the video?

Track previews all seem to be like for like. In addition to that the videos look the same the ps5 just is emerging from dark to light so looks brighter. Before it looks to be an identical time of day and weather like all the other track previews

The skybox looks cloudy on one and sunny on the other. Also, the reflecting puddles in the ps5 shot are not in the XsX version because the shot was taken when they are further away and not in view. Thus you can’t tell in your pic if they have the same reflections or not.

Like I said, not the best picture to compare missing reflections

 

[DJ12]

Are you saying one of those quality setting on the PS5 removes the reflections? And this is a win for the PS5 because no reflections is better? And all of this means Xbox fans are desperate? Makes perfect sense to me

I would say overly shiny cars are the issue, ps5 has rejections ache th feet are higher quality than xbox as seen in the glass and plastic. Guess the dev in charge of the ps5 settings choose more realistic settings rather than the more arcadey looking xbox version.

Reflections in game match that of ps5 in both versions.

I have no horse in this race but if you are happy to have what you perceive to be better reflections I'm sure ps5 owners will prefer to have better quality in absolutely everything else.

You grab that dub ya on reflections and ignore everything thats better on ps5 if it makes you happy.

 

[DarkMage619]

If there's a significant difference between the two it should show with cross gen games. Kind of like how CoD Ghosts ran at a higher resolution on the PS4 than the X1.

Now if the systems are extremely close like then it can go either way with cross gen games. Maybe the XSX will start beating the PS5 in every single multiplat but there's no indication of that happening yet and maybe it will never be a thing.

No idea what people are supposed to wait for because both systems will get better with age.

With the timing of the release of these consoles and the similarly of their architecture there will never be a difference like the PS4 and X1. The X1 had MUCH slower main system ram and way less compute power. The 'wait for better performance' has already proven itself with the numerous patches that have come out that have improved BOTH PS5 and Xbox versions of these launch titles. I highly doubt we'll see either of these consoles 'beating' the other in any significant way. Most 3rd parties will be shooting for parity. I'll keep saying that these launch titles aren't anything to really be crowing about.

I would say overly shiny cars are the issue, ps5 has rejections ache th feet are higher quality than xbox as seen in the glass and plastic. Guess the dev in charge of the ps5 settings choose more realistic settings rather than the more arcadey looking xbox version.

Reflections in game match that of ps5 in both versions.

I have no horse in this race but if you are happy to have what you perceive to be better reflections I'm sure ps5 owners will prefer to have better quality in absolutely everything else.

You grab that dub ya on reflections and ignore everything thats better on ps5 if it makes you happy.

I simply pointed out that there are effects missing on the PS5 version as some in this very thread cheered that this was some sort of PS5 victory. This title should not be used as some sort of victory for the PS5. Real life reflections don't pick and choose what gets reflected. The lights on the windshield should be reflected on the car body too. Notice I haven't said this was a big victory for Xbox either. Cross gen titles are horrible indicators of system performance.

 

[Bogroll]

I would say overly shiny cars are the issue, ps5 has rejections ache th feet are higher quality than xbox as seen in the glass and plastic. Guess the dev in charge of the ps5 settings choose more realistic settings rather than the more arcadey looking xbox version.

Reflections in game match that of ps5 in both versions.

I have no horse in this race but if you are happy to have what you perceive to be better reflections I'm sure ps5 owners will prefer to have better quality in absolutely everything else.

You grab that dub ya on reflections and ignore everything thats better on ps5 if it makes you happy.

Lol Realistic reflections. Where are the above strip lights on the car body. Looks odd.

 

[geordiemp]

You really dont know what you are talking about... but warriors need their bs i guess

People with low IQ can only do Ad hominem, thats all they are capable off, cheap insults.

You cant discuss any point I made so you insult like a child.

I thought you might compare VEGA vs RDNA2 architecture and how it is arranged, or something simple like shared Local data store and parameter cache on large array designs ....or ur duh I am thick.....just call me names..

 

[MasterCornholio]

With the timing of the release of these consoles and the similarly of their architecture there will never be a difference like the PS4 and X1. The X1 had MUCH slower main system ram and way less compute power. The 'wait for better performance' has already proven itself with the numerous patches that have come out that have improved BOTH PS5 and Xbox versions of these launch titles. I highly doubt we'll see either of these consoles 'beating' the other in any significant way. Most 3rd parties will be shooting for parity. I'll keep saying that these launch titles aren't anything to really be crowing about.

I think it's really proof that the PS5 isn't as underpowered as some people were saying. At least that's the conclusion that most people can make early on. Everything else could need more time though.

 

[geordiemp]

CPU is "server class" as in Ryzen Pro, for additional security, which is something I believe both console using.

The 2 CPU halves are quite far apart for starters on the die on XSX for starters. But neither console is CPU limited so it does not matter

 

[DarkMage619]

I think it's really proof that the PS5 isn't as underpowered as some people were saying. At least that's the conclusion that most people can make early on. Everything else could need more time though.

Who said the PS5 was 'underpowered'? Everything said here was the PS5 had the fastest IO, non server components designed for actual gaming, the best games on the planet, and multiple devs have been singing its praises for months. I hope you aren't going to Twitter for console info. The PS5 is not the PS3.

 

[Zathalus]

That is a CPU, in a GPU all 4 shader arrays are in use, they are not been switched on and off, they have variable frequencies likely per DCU.

Lets face it, 1.825 GHz for RDNA2 is effectively switched low next to off, PC parts are topping 2.5 GHz average, god knows what individual DCU is hammering out.

I think AMD has not detailed this in full as not to embarrass MS.

It's the same thing for CPUs and GPUs, clock gating has got nothing to do with allowing for variable or higher clock speeds. They are two different concepts, as I have backed up with many different sources. Also, the shader arrays are not turned off, as it's fine clock gating, the power savings go way finer then that, to the register level.

The XSX is clocked lower then the PS5 not due to it missing any features that allow for higher clock speeds, or that the GPU can't run at those frequencies, but because it is constrained by the thermal and power limits of the consoles design. A 52 CU GPU clocked at the frequency of the PS5 GPU will draw way more power and require a larger cooling system. It's the same reason you are not seeing the PS5 pull frequencies in excess of 2.6Ghz, the GPU can likely do it, but it will blow past the allowed power limits and thermal dissipation of its cooler.

The XSX is a larger GPU then the RX 5700 XT running at similar frequencies but drawing 100w less under load. How do you think that was achieved? By perhaps having the RDNA2 architectural changes that AMD mentioned (such as the clock gating) that allows for greater than 50% performance-per-watt gains?

 

[jroc74]

Only one has reflections in this shot.

Very interesting observation.

He made the thread as he thought it was safe to do so now dirt had apparently been fixed, turns out its still not got the same quality settings in all modes as ps5. The only thing quick to judge round here are xbox fans desperate for the dub ya.

At least wait until there's been some comparisons. It will stop half this damage control, the other half you do for the lols

Agree with this.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Who said the PS5 was 'underpowered'? Everything said here was the PS5 had the fastest IO, non server components designed for actual gaming, the best games on the planet, and multiple devs have been singing its praises for months. I hope you aren't going to Twitter for console info. The PS5 is not the PS3.

Many said the PS5 was underpowered especially after the GitHub leaks happened. Then there was all the questionable design decisions that Cerny made with the system like the variable clocks. What I will say is that no actual developers said that. It was either people on twitter or people that said developers told them these things like Chris Grannel for example.

The PS5 does have the fastest I/O however I believe it's capabilities have been greatly exaggerated. It only seems to load content a little faster than the XSX not twice as fast. However that few seconds advantage could lead to alot more data being transferred but that needs to be proven.

About the server components. We do know that Microsoft is pushing streaming quite heavily with Xcloud. With that said I would be surprised if their servers use components similar to what's in the XSX. It makes sense to use the same APUs in their servers that they do in their consoles. Definitely cheaper to do that then to design something completely different for those servers. Whether or not that's a negative for the XSX I don't really know.

The part about games though. That's entirely subjective and if you think Sony 1st party games are terrible your entitled to have that opinion. However I will say that many do seem to enjoy them and they usually do quite well with the critics. Whether that means Sony has the best games is for you to decide. All I'll say about that is that Sony produces the games that I enjoy the most. There's nothing wrong with that or you thinking differently.

As for developers praising the system for months I've seen them actually say that. For the most part they seem to be quite happy with making games for the system and I don't think they are lying about that. If it was as bad as the PS3 it would show in the games. But so far games seem to work pretty well on the system. We are definitely not getting a Bayonetta type situation with anything.

 

[NullZ3r0]

Nothing but confirmation bias so far in this thread.

 

[Agnostic2020]

Who said the PS5 was 'underpowered'? Everything said here was the PS5 had the fastest IO, non server components designed for actual gaming, the best games on the planet, and multiple devs have been singing its praises for months. I hope you aren't going to Twitter for console info. The PS5 is not the PS3.

U r joking ? On this site no one was allowed to be excited for ps5 cause of "staggering power difference " between ps5 and xsx and ps fans were advised to avoid DF thread upto 1 month before launch Riky Suggested even xss is more powerful than ps5 at some point when xbox fans went crazy with accepting bullshits from dealer and colt (uneducated pricks). so to see the fall from grace and blow back in their faces has been nothing but amusing to watch

Seeing ps5 edging out xsx 95% of games has been an amazing sight due to reactions from xbox fans who shat on ps5 for downclocking severly , weak , last minute up clock to catch up , rdna 1.5 , 9 tf etc...

Maybe they will learn a lesson? Hope so but I doubt it.

 

[DarkMage619]

U r joking ? On this site no one was allowed to be excited for ps5 cause of "staggering power difference " between ps5 and xsx and ps fans were advised to avoid DF thread upto 1 month before launch Riky Suggested even xss is more powerful than ps5 at some point when xbox fans went crazy with accepting bullshits from dealer and colt (uneducated pricks). so to see the fall from grace and blow back in their faces has been nothing but amusing to watch

Seeing ps5 edging out xsx 95% of games has been an amazing sight due to reactions from xbox fans who rather live in denial than reality.

Maybe they will learn a lesson? Hope so but I doubt it.

There are more Sony fans here on this forum and on the Earth. There is no way that a minority of Xbox fans are going to keep Sony fans from loving everything that Sony does. I've noticed far more Sony fans actually advocating that the Xbox not exist at all and I have not seen that fervor from the Xbox fans. People like Colteastwood, Dealer, and Zalker all have PS5 consoles so even the biggest Xbox fans have the PS5 too. The reverse can't really be said.

If you are a Sony only fan you in the majority and there are far more safe spaces for you to feel confident in your purchase than the Xbox where there is a constant chorus of the 'Xbox having no games'. I'm just glad that MS is still in the game because there are a few areas where I prefer their gaming vision. I still think they have the best online implementation, and things like 'Smart Delivery', and Game Pass are nice offerings Sony can't or won't do. The only reality is that Sony isn't going anywhere and thankfully neither will MS so there is something for everyone.

 

[Agnostic2020]

There are more Sony fans here on this forum and on the Earth. There is no way that a minority of Xbox fans are going to keep Sony fans from loving everything that Sony does. I've noticed far more Sony fans actually advocating that the Xbox not exist at all and I have not seen that fervor from the Xbox fans. People like Colteastwood, Dealer, and Zalker all have PS5 consoles so even the biggest Xbox fans have the PS5 too. The reverse can't really be said.

If you are a Sony only fan you in the majority and there are far more safe spaces for you to feel confident in your purchase than the Xbox where there is a constant chorus of the 'Xbox having no games'. I'm just glad that MS is still in the game because there are a few areas where I prefer their gaming vision. I still think they have the best online implementation, and things like 'Smart Delivery', and Game Pass are nice offerings Sony can't or won't do. The only reality is that Sony isn't going anywhere and thankfully neither will MS so there is something for everyone.

All I can tell you is that then probably you were not around here few months back then when every thread was derailed about ps5 with bulkshit fud like downclocking to 8tf etc... non stop . I can even name the 10 users here but I won't. They were minority but they dominated every thread about ps5 and how weak it is

 

[MasterCornholio]

I can even name the 10 users here but I won't.

There's a fine line between just speculating and just making up BS to make something look bad. Even after road to PS5 some things were not clear so was alot of speculation over them. However I do agree that some people fabricated some stuff like the PS5 dropping to 5TFs or that Mark was lying about ray tracing in the system.

Not everyone speculating on the PS5 were trying to make the system look bad.

 

[Insane Metal]

Dude you're Pony af! The passion!

The fuck

 

[Bogroll]

Only one has reflections in this shot.

That is because the Xbox is night time in the garage. When you move the camera around you can see reflections a little but that is because the bright light is dominating from above. Reflections are clearly there in the daytime.

 

[jroc74]

That is because the Xbox is night time in the garage. When you move the camera around you can see reflections a little but that is because the bright light is dominating from above. Reflections are clearly there in the daytime.

Isnt time of day the exact same thing others said about some of PS5 pics posted in here?

 

[Bogroll]

Isnt time of day the exact same thing others said about some of PS5 pics posted in here?

No, you can tell by the colour of the car. I've just tried it.

 

[Fredrik]

Lets not make stuff up, I’m sure anyone with a PS5 could just start the game and go to the garage and check if there are reflections on the cars or not, probably takes 2 minutes tops.

 

[Bogroll]

But they didn't, it's like you don't have eyes.

Folliage matches and geometry appear to match with the untrained eye, textures certainly do not, and there's no indication yet of the performance hit, if there is one, which with increased details you'd imagine there would be.

This?



Lighting and reflections far better so didn't notice the sand, although now you've pointed it out, it's clearly far better on PS5 also. Series X seems to have less tessellation, I guess as there are less rocks on the puddle on the left hand side (although some of these appear to be there just not lit properly, some are also clearly missing), AF also noticeably worse still.

Not even sure where you are looking to claim it's better on series x

I've highlight some areas where the difference is stark.



I suspect it's mostly down to the inferior lighting on Series X, but the front highlighted section is not as detailed on series x and appears flat, maybe a lack of bump mapping and lower tessellation being applied. Probs need NX Gamer to throw his expertise at it, the guy that did this video, usually does it first which is good, but doesn't really know what he's talking about and doesn't line up his shots so they are like for like, each side by side is slightly offset from the one next to it.

I can tell you now this is a load of bollocks. This chap (not the poster the video guy) is playing us, maybe he won't get as many clicks if PS5 don't beat Xbox
I'm not saying its better than PS5 but SX is a lot better than this scene. I will be uploading a pic.