SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
good. Article needs to be updated then.
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Reindeer
Member
They're talking about average and not a single frame.This is bugging me way too much. It's straight up misleading to have DF write this in the article. Math simply doesnt add up.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
So it's not a 1440p/60 that they advertised?
"Just down the rez to 1440p, flip the switch from Series X, framerate will be the same. No issues."
We heard this for months.
ethomaz
Banned
Nikana, you know you and me have big discrepancies in the way we view things.... that generated friction between us not only but a lot of times.
So because I said I expect Xbox to have better mutli plats and was wrong that makes me not 50/50? Come off it man. You have been here what? Little over a year? I worked in this industry for 5 years and have been here for close to 5. You dont know my history and you dont know my preferences. Believe whatever you want to believe. But this painting of people based on the little exposure you have to them like you are in prison is beyond stupid.
But you know too I'm blue side... so it is fine to admit the side you are... there is nothing wrong in being a fan of one of the consoles.
IMO for me you were always on green side... every single time we discussed... so I agree with fish here.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Colteastwood is hurting.
Gamers who buy into this bullshit, only have yourselves to blame. FFS, he is the video form of MisterMediaX... wait a second... ?
waquzy
Member
This is bugging me way too much. It's straight up misleading to have DF write this in the article. Math simply doesnt add up.
Actually 12fps difference is 20%.
60 = 100%
12 = X%
X = 12 x 100 = 1200, 1200 divided by 60 = 20
nowhat
Member
Bo_Hazem
Banned
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Nope.. Read it again. He says at its worst. Not on average.
sircaw
Banned
So because I said I expect Xbox to have better mutli plats and was wrong that makes me not 50/50? Come off it man. You have been here what? Little over a year? I worked in this industry for 5 years and have been here for close to 5. You dont know my history and you dont know my preferences. Believe whatever you want to believe. But this painting of people based on the little exposure you have to them like you are in prison is beyond stupid.
i am just saying how it looks dude, i have seen you all in a lot of xbox threads, you seem to gravitate a lot more to spreading positively about xbox than ps5, these are my own personal thoughts, this is not some troll thing i am saying and i suspect a lot of people kinda notice the same thing.
If you think you're fair and spilt down the middle, fair enough and good for you, maybe you cant see your own bias or something, i don't know. but i think a lot of people will agree with me, it does not look that way.
But at the end of the day, does it really matter anymore.
Reindeer
Member
I can see this gen lasting at least 8 years looking at how much better these consoles are positioned than consoles in the past.
JackMcGunns
Member
its performing 25% better.
60/48 = 25%. DF's math is wrong.
If you think the entire game is running at 47 FPS on Series X, then something is definitely wrong, and I'm not talking about math
Reindeer
Member
They should update their article then, it's an obvious error.
ethomaz
Banned
I don't know the gens seems to be shrinking... even the mid-gen upgrades didn't help to last gen to be the smaller one.
It is a error... he admitted already.
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sircaw
Banned
what is that video with that guy singing, crying screaming in the clouds, you know the one bo its the best lol
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Riky
$MSFT
If you think the entire game is running at 47 FPS on Series X, then something is definitely wrong, and I'm not talking about math
Exactly, it's only certain scenes.
Luckily Xbox gives you a way to overcome poor ports with VRR, DF said it makes it perfect. It shouldn't be needed but in this case gives you the best way to play on console.
This didn't age well!
Mr Moose
Member
25% more, 20% less.
Great Hair
Banned
here the files (looks like he deliberately captured it at 240p settings on the PS5, while the XSX on highest ... as if he is after some narrative to fit his agenda. Capture both at max quality or f*ck off!)
TOP PS5 608kb
BOTTOM XSX 2,381kb
mansoor1980
Gold Member
this is ubi softs fault
Reindeer
Member
Last gen's consoles had horrible CPUs, this gen we getting 120fps option in some cross gen games, that's a massive difference. I think these consoles are much better positioned to go on at least a year longer, but Series S is a dead console.
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Die Namek Ability
Member
So its becoming a trend as opposed to an anomaly. If we get many more of these i will most likely skip Xbox this gen. Im glad i decided to get a PS5 first!
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
here the files (looks like he deliberately captured it at 240p settings on the PS5, while the XSX on highest ... as if he is after some narrative to fit his agenda. Capture both at max quality or f*ck off!)
TOP PS5 608kb
BOTTOM XSX 2,381kb
And the draw distance is still the same.
I bet they are even captured on just one machine as well.
Vaztu
Member
Not just the article. Even in the Youtube presentation he says 15% IN THIS SCENE. It seems its as low as 22% and as high as 30%.
Timestamped.
Aceofspades
Banned
That was such a wondrous video to watch. We knew that PS5 had an edge, probably in CPU bound scenes, but that really was a complete reversal of expectations from before launch. I expected the two consoles to be close, but for the SX to be a bit better, especially on multiplatform titles. XBox fans, on the other hand, took marginal paper spec advantage as actually translating into some huge advantage, often twisting PS5 architecture to justify their believed superiority, there was simply no argument other than the SX was significantly more powerful. They were far too invested in this fiction.
There is a German word for this enjoyment I believe: schadenfreude. If only the Great White Shark was still around.
In the medium to longer term I still expect the SX to pull ahead a bit, but not by much, paper specs usually do indicate a real difference, we'll see. I'm hoping we get some insight into this current lead the PS5 is enjoying with CPU bound games -- not convinced on GDK being the issue, but fascinating whatever the cause.
There is a German word for this enjoyment I believe: schadenfreude. If only the Great White Shark was still around.
In the medium to longer term I still expect the SX to pull ahead a bit, but not by much, paper specs usually do indicate a real difference, we'll see. I'm hoping we get some insight into this current lead the PS5 is enjoying with CPU bound games -- not convinced on GDK being the issue, but fascinating whatever the cause.
Knitted Knight
Banned
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Quantum253
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Was the 15% on average or was it taking the single lowest and highest frame variance to determine the delta? If the highest and lowest shift was used, I think he should edit the article with the correct percentage or clearly state how he arrived at the percentage.This is bugging me way too much. It's straight up misleading to have DF write this in the article. Math simply doesnt add up.
ethomaz
Banned
Basically where there is shadow less detail are showed.
That is true for both version... if the guy focused in a part where there is shadow on Xbox and not on PS5 he will realize the Xbox has less details.
Exemple... the rock just below where he pointed... in PS5 it is clear but in Xbox you can barely see it.
DarkParadise
Member
Yeah, there really is no excuse for that Halo demo. Thanks for your answer!
FALCON_KICK
Member
Just ask either John or Alex over twitter to get this issue sorted out.
xacto
Member
Tears were shed at the Crysis altar after Alex had to admit that PS5 outperforms the XSX up to 15%. This was not a good day. But, to his credit, he took it in stride. Probably acceptance setting in.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I am still going with both captured from the same box, and he fiddled with one of the photos, hence the file size comparison and resolution.
ethomaz
Banned
He deleted yesterday this tweet after I (and dozen of others) asked him what happened.Recap
ethomaz
Banned
Well that could be way disgusting.
Said that what I said is true... the game engine hide details when there is shadow in the surface... not really wrong if you are trying to simulate day/night.... more darker the scene you will see less.
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Skifi28
Member
If the Xbox comes bundled with a vrr TV, I agree.
Md Ray
Member
I have a theory. These fps dips on Series X looks like the game is bandwidth starved. You may say how is that possible? Because 560 GB/s is greater than PS5's 448GB/s.
Ouch.
But let's not forget there's also the 336 GB/s of the so-called "standard memory". What if the game's wrongly tapping into the standard memory system here instead of the "GPU optimal memory" (560 GB/s)? This Ubisoft after all.
336 GB/s to 448 GB/s is a 33% increase, and judging from this gif I see nearly a 30% difference in frame-rate in favor of PS5 here.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
For real? Some of these people have zero integrity or principals. All ego and virtual pride?
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Gediminas
Banned
while i very well enjoy this shitting on xbox fans because they deserved it. but i don't supporting it.
lets praise sony more than shit on xbox. sony deserves all the praise. you never know when the tide will change, so be humble
p.s. i would add, it is ubisoft fault? so COD running better on PS5 ,so it is Activision fault? NVS running smoother on PS5, it is a developer fault again? we see here a pattern with these excuses.
lets praise sony more than shit on xbox. sony deserves all the praise. you never know when the tide will change, so be humble
p.s. i would add, it is ubisoft fault? so COD running better on PS5 ,so it is Activision fault? NVS running smoother on PS5, it is a developer fault again? we see here a pattern with these excuses.
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Self High Five
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The real fun is coming folks