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[BlueXImpulse]

Insomniac Community Director James Stevenson got into a small Twitter exchange yesterday regarding comments that ray-tracing in Spider-Man: Miles Morales is 70% SSR. This is what he had to say:



John from DF seemed to agree that it was superior to all console implementations.



How was Sony able to pull this off, while achieving superior graphical fidelity overall to the new Ubisoft ray-tracing showcase? We have a hint here from a recent Sony corporate report.

"Custom I/O systems with integrated ultra-high-speed custom SSDs, for instance, can substantially reduce game load times, dramatically changing game experiences for users.

"The PS5 supports ray tracing technology to simplify the rendering process, a major burden for game creators.

"For ray tracing to be effective it must be fast, requiring not only superb hardware performance, but excellent software to make the most of the hardware. To draw the best from hardware performance, we are building data structures essential to faster ray tracing and developing libraries to offer game creators, whose voices we will be considering throughout the process."

 

[Killer Sakoman]

Sony 1st party leads the way

 

[LeftThumbstick]

This just in, company defends itself and praises it's own work as expected.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Include this in the OP!


Gonna make some screenshots of RT!

 

[Yoboman]

This just in, company defends itself and praises it's own work as expected.

When you do something so good, why not?

 

[Dampf]

Yes, it is extremly well optimized.

TBH I would say it is industry leading for PC as well. Devs gotta a lot to learn from Insomniac.

 

[geordiemp]

Spiderman RT is so impressive, look forward to an interview where Insomniac tell us how they did it on console.

Hopefully sony apis allow other third parties to do similar, but I dont have high hopes for ubisoft on console.

 

[Elias]

He's welcome to his opinion, I guess

 

[BlueXImpulse]

He's welcome to his opinion, I guess

It sounds like you disagree. Which is fine, do you have anything better on console?

 

[Jon Neu]

 

[geordiemp]

He's welcome to his opinion, I guess

And Digital foundry agree/

Your welcome to your opinion, I guess.

 

[Agnostic2020]

Yea it looked gorgeous and if u watch DF they agree

 

[Yoboman]

Nice meme

 

[Shmunter]

The only proof we needed that Spider-Man is best in class RT was VFXvet flying in on his high horse abusing everyone that likes the look. Signed, sealed and delivered.

 

[mejin]

Next gen launch in 4 days. We are almost there, folks.

 

[Md Ray]

Include this in the OP!


Gonna make some screenshots of RT!

I have to say, Sony first-party games are always on a different level, consistently. Those detailed textures, GPU particles, industry-leading RT reflections, very high quality image quality, hair rendering, etc. are something else and truly a joy to behold!

 

[-Arcadia-]

You kind of have to give it to them. It really is best-in-class.

I certainly did not, when we first even started talking about ray tracing at a consumer level, a year or two ago, even expect it on the next-gen consoles. Maybe in tiny bits and pieces, or with a crazy resolution penalty or a very small game.

Here we are at launch, in 4K, across a whole open world city, in a fantastic looking game, with real ray traced reflections everywhere.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Thanks to F Falc67 , crazy screenshots, I think direct feed from PS5:

INSANE DETAILS!

Mindblowing!

I've never seen a game this sharp, clean, with mindblowing RT implementation and graphics!

Source:

We may have been sent our Playstation 5 pretty early (about a week and a half ago), we may only have received 2 of the launch exclusives (out of 4), preparing the coverage of a new console takes time. That's why we decided to focus on a video review

We may have been sent our Playstation 5 pretty early (about a week and a half ago), we may only have received 2 of the launch exclusives (out of 4), preparing the coverage of a new console takes time. That's why we decided to focus on a video review only for Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales...

www.gamersyde.com

 

[Starfield]

I still dont understand why there is a black spiderman. Is it a comic thing or is it a gender/race thing?

Also reflections are cool but its by no means "state of the art" RT

 

[BlueXImpulse]

Thanks to F Falc67 , crazy screenshots, I think direct feed from PS5:

This is spectacular!

 

[Von Hugh]

Thanks to F Falc67 , crazy screenshots, I think direct feed from PS5:

INSANE DETAILS!

Mindblowing!

I've never seen a game this sharp, clean, with mindblowing RT implementation and graphics!

Source:

We may have been sent our Playstation 5 pretty early (about a week and a half ago), we may only have received 2 of the launch exclusives (out of 4), preparing the coverage of a new console takes time. That's why we decided to focus on a video review

We may have been sent our Playstation 5 pretty early (about a week and a half ago), we may only have received 2 of the launch exclusives (out of 4), preparing the coverage of a new console takes time. That's why we decided to focus on a video review only for Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales...

www.gamersyde.com

Are you a Sony brand ambassador?

 

[Bo_Hazem]

I still dont understand why there is a black spiderman. Is it a comic thing or is it a gender/race thing?

Also reflections are cool but its by no means "state of the art" RT

2011:

Miles Morales - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Are you a Sony brand ambassador?

Far from being so, but won't refuse the offer.

 

[-Arcadia-]

I still dont understand why there is a black spiderman. Is it a comic thing or is it a gender/race thing?

Also reflections are cool but its by no means "state of the art" RT

Social justice. If you trace it all the way back, pulling the creator’s quotes, it is transparently the intention.

The thing is, I actually really like Miles Morales. Some kind of cosmic accident happened, and he actually ended up being a cool, really likable character across multiple forms of media, instead of a paper-thin placeholder for an agenda.

 

[Starfield]

2011:

Miles Morales - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Far from being so, but won't refuse the offer.

America you are weird with your comic culture

 

[Bittermich]

Shocking!
First party praises first party title. Who would have thought?!

 

[Black_Stride]

Industry leading*

Versus what exactly....isnt the only other title tested WatchDogs?
We have yet to see DMC5SE, GodFall(lol), Bright Memory and Stray get tested, or have those analysis slipped under the radar?

P.S I dont doubt its an amazing implementation, just seems weird to call it out so early when other RT titles are literally waiting in the wings for embargos to lift.



*On Console.

 

[bitbydeath]

Versus what exactly...

Don’t forget PC. They’ve dabbled with a few games like Control.

 

[Garani]

On one side we have someone that has been shitting on Sony since ages ago (it's like they killed his dog or something) spreading FUD.

On the other side we have a game that is essencially a tech demo and in fidelity mode delivers something that is a lot different than what we have seen before.

Honestly, I don't give a fuck if the SSRvsRT is 10, 30, 50 or 70%. I know that I'll be playing that fidelity mode and enjoy my time with it. Meanwhile on the competing console there is no launch title, so we don't know what it can, and cannot do (no, mutiplats are no indicator of performance, especially Ubisoft software).

 

[Black_Stride]

America you are weird with your comic culture

The Ultimate Universe was weird all the way around....dont blame america, blame Brian Michael Bendis, Warren Ellis and Mark Millar.

Miles ended up being an alright character....good enough he was pulled from the Ultimate Universe and brought into the mainline universe.

P.S There are a ton of Spiders in the Marvel canon. If a character in the Marvel universe is popular you can bet your ass they have multiple variants of said character.

 

[Black_Stride]

Don’t forget PC. They’ve dabbled with a few games like Control.

He specifically says Industry Leading on Console because he knows you cant bring a game like Control into the mix.
Thats why Im asking what other RT Console titles are they comparing themselves to, because right now I think only WatchDogs has had any sort of testing done.

 

[Self]

I agree. I was very sceptical about RT implementation so far. MM changed that within a few minutes.

 

[Arun1910]

As someone who has experienced RT on PC, the RT in Miles Morales blows me away. Having all that glass from the buildings really showcases why it is actually a nice thing to have whilst traversing the city.

One of the best RT reflection implementations I've seen, PC or otherwise.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

I agree. I was very sceptical about RT implementation so far. MM changed that within a few minutes.

Don't forget the keywords: NATIVE 4K + Raytracing!

 

[Valued Gamer]

So are DF bought out MS shills still, or are they honest people who should be believed?
It's kinda hard to follow nowadays.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

So are DF bought out MS shills still, or are they honest people who should be believed?
It's kinda hard to follow nowadays.

John has always been neutral if you weren't following.

 

[BlueXImpulse]

So are DF bought out MS shills still, or are they honest people who should be believed?
It's kinda hard to follow nowadays.

Are you impressed by this?

 

[bitbydeath]

He specifically says Industry Leading on Console because he knows you cant bring a game like Control into the mix.
Thats why Im asking what other RT Console titles are they comparing themselves to, because right now I think only WatchDogs has had any sort of testing done.

I read that more as console paving the way. Not neglecting PC.

 

[On Demand]

People mad when the proof is there to see. Fanboy goggles is really glued on to their face.

 

[Killer Sakoman]

John has always been neutral if you weren't following.

John is actually a Playstation fan

Alex Buggaga is a problem

 

[NoviDon]

The graphics look insane. Definitely what I expected from an early next gen AAA title. Wonder what they can do when the ray tracing is even more optimized and they have more more resources to put elsewhere with spiderman 2 in a few years.

 

[FranXico]

This just in, company defends itself and praises it's own work as expected.

If only they had results to show...

... and they do.

 

[onesvenus]

Did somebody expect third parties to reach the same quality level as first parties? In launch games?

 

[Valued Gamer]

Are you impressed by this?

Looks really nice. Can't wait to eventually be able to find a PS5 in stock and get it.

 

[Killer Sakoman]

Did somebody expect third parties to reach the same quality level as first parties? In launch games?

There are first parties that could not match other first parties. You know that better than me. Should I remind you?

 

[Valued Gamer]

John has always been neutral if you weren't following.

How can John be a neutral when he wrote that he hates Microsoft and wishes they had never entered the gaming space?

 

[saintjules]

Thanks to F Falc67 , crazy screenshots, I think direct feed from PS5:

INSANE DETAILS!

Mindblowing!

I've never seen a game this sharp, clean, with mindblowing RT implementation and graphics!

Source:

We may have been sent our Playstation 5 pretty early (about a week and a half ago), we may only have received 2 of the launch exclusives (out of 4), preparing the coverage of a new console takes time. That's why we decided to focus on a video review

We may have been sent our Playstation 5 pretty early (about a week and a half ago), we may only have received 2 of the launch exclusives (out of 4), preparing the coverage of a new console takes time. That's why we decided to focus on a video review only for Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales...

www.gamersyde.com

Just insane stuff.

 

[Lethal01]

Hopefully PC can catch up by the time the 4080 launches.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

How can John be a neutral when he wrote that he hates Microsoft and wishes they had never entered the gaming space?

Then he's a Sony fanboy? Do you have a link of that?

 

[onesvenus]

There are first parties that could not match other first parties. You know that better than me. Should I remind you?

Have I said somewhere that Sony's first parties don't know how to squeeze juice from Sony's hardware? They are some of the bests, no debate around that.

Having said that, comparing a third party cross-gen launch game to a first party game game doesn't seem fair. There are only a handful of third parties that can reach this kind of graphics performance while targeting multiple platforms and I wouldn't expect it to be done at launch

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Hopefully PC can catch up by the time the 4080 lauches.