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AC Valhalla PS5 version runs at upscaled 4K

TigerKnee

Member
Can anyone here, hand on heart say that there's a difference between upscaled 4k and native 4k, while playing a game and not pausing to pixel count?

I prefer FauxK to 4K, with 60fps, no RT and all of the physics, destruction etc, dialled up to 11

I can't even see the benefit Ray Tracing or HDR so I sure as hell don't care about this.
 

01011001

Banned
DMC 5 without RT on XSS, Yakuza 1080p 60fps on XSX are studios fault.
An unseen email is reliable. :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy:

the level of delusion on display here is astonishing.

you are aware that the PS5 version of Yakuza will either run exactly the same way or slightly worse right? that's not a speculation that's a fact.
we know how Dragon Engine games run on PC my dude.
 
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Nikana

Go Go Neo Rangers!
Interesting how Sony drop the embargo for unboxing videos and suddenly all the XsX ones drop the day after.

Demons Souls gameplay drops with incredible visuals in 60fps, the next day Legion with raytracing effects and Valhalla is upscaled on PS5 drops. Do MS have anything 1st party to buy? No.

Me thinks MS has been digging about in their pockets for some third party bells and whistles.
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drotahorror

Member
Interesting how Sony drop the embargo for unboxing videos and suddenly all the XsX ones drop the day after.

Demons Souls gameplay drops with incredible visuals in 60fps, the next day Legion with raytracing effects and Valhalla is upscaled on PS5 drops. Do MS have anything 1st party to buy? No.

Me thinks MS has been digging about in their pockets for some third party bells and whistles.

Get a pc if you're worried about multiplats. Pretty much always been that way.
 
I can't even see the benefit Ray Tracing or HDR so I sure as hell don't care about this.
I agree 100%.

We haven't had physics and destruction on consoles since BF:BC2 on the PS360 or those Red Faction games.

Yet we're talking about fancy lighting, 4k and 30fps with no physics, shite Ai and limit particle/smoke effects. Da Fuq?
 

duhmetree

Member
I agree 100%.

We haven't had physics and destruction on consoles since BF:BC2 on the PS360 or those Red Faction games.

Yet we're talking about fancy lighting, 4k and 30fps with no physics, shite Ai and limit particle/smoke effects. Da Fuq?
Ray Tracing adds an immersive aspect to picture but it will go unoticed by many.

For consoles I'd take dynamic 4K with all the bells and whistles that fit, all day every day over Native.
 

DForce

NaughtyDog Defense Force
people better wait for DF comparisons. Comparing it to the PS4 Pro or Xbox One X situation is pretty dumb.

Upscaled likely means that it's running at a lower resolution and then upscaled to 4K. This lower resolution could very well be slightly under Native 4K. For this to be Pro/Xbox One X all over again, the PS5 version would have to run close to 1440p than Native 4K AND have lower resolution textures.
 

Yoboman

Member
the level of delusion on display here is astonishing.

you are aware that the PS5 version of Yakuza will either run exactly the same way or slightly worse right? that's not a speculation that's a fact.
we know how Dragon Engine games run on PC my dude.

Yakuza is apparently 4k60 on PS5 and 4k30/1080p 60 on Xbox Series X


But obviously just lazy devs like DMC5
 
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DForce

NaughtyDog Defense Force
I don't know why people are making jokes about RDNA 3.

RGT has always said that both consoles will have features of RDNA 3.
 

Chukhopops

Member
Yakuza is apparently 4k60 on PS5 and 4k30/1080p 60 on Xbox Series X
I love how the article says Yakuza 7 is 4K 30fps on the PS4 Pro, which everyone knows isn’t correct in the slightest (it’s 1080p 30fps). You know a publication is serious when they can’t even get correct facts on existing games.

Edit: also the XBX frame rate mode of Yakuza 7 is 1440p 60fps, not 1080p as far as I can tell using a Google search.
 
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Concern

Member
Welp yall done it now. The spec thread warriors are out and about over "upscaled" 4k resolution lol.

Anything even slightly hinting at it doing something worse than the XSX drives them in a frenzy. This shit is beyond stupid.
 

01011001

Banned
Yakuza is apparently 4k60 on PS5 and 4k30/1080p 60 on Xbox Series X


But obviously just lazy devs like DMC5

no obviously false info. the only way that is possible is if it would run at significantly lower settings.
we know the hardware in these systems, we know how the dragon engine games perform on current gen systems and on PC.

it's funny that you folks still act like there can be some magic inside the PS5 that somehow defies both logic and physics in order to be more powerful than it can be on paper.
it's funny and sad at the same time

games with that engine run at 1080p30 on PS4 Pro and 1440p30 on One X.
simply pushing the PS4 pro version of Yakuza Kiwami 2 to 4k60 would necessitate an 8x jump in raw performance!
4x for the resolution jump alone and another 2x for the framerate.

spoiler alert, the PS5 is not 8x as powerful as the PS4 Pro

even the 4x resolution boost to 4k is pushing it, that is hard on the edge of what's possible, and without the improved performance of RDNA2 it wouldn't be possible at all without a significant reduction in settings.
 
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Yakuza having a 1080p mode is used to console war now? Sony fanboys running low on ammo here.

i don't care if it's 1080p or else. It's about the excuses. It's always others fault. Media is corrupted, things like that.

I always listen things like "Digital Sony". But when Digital Foundry says something good for xbots ears, they're the first to share.

That's the point.
 

assurdum

Banned
Based on what's been reported, it seems there are optimizations in place for the XSX to have native 4K for ACV.

Ok. So they are trying to say series X uses graphic setting different to the ps5? Because optimization aren't magical things
 
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01011001

Banned
Based on what's been reported, it seems there are optimizations in place for the XSX to have native 4K for ACV.

Ok. So they are trying to say series X uses graphic setting different to the ps5?

it might use DX12 features to improve performance and they didn't yet implement the PS5 custom versions of them like mesh shader or VRS into their engine.
 
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mancs

Member
its really really bad...

but if this , really really bad gaming news,was in a few weeks time , i'd be like , ..
hey ASSasins , enjoy ya weak witcher wanna be game...
*goes back to demon souls on p5 that shits on anything graphically yet on any console or cwysis pc*
 
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01011001

Banned
I think we give too much credit to such stuff .

VRS can actually really dramatically improve performance, or at the very least get a ~50FPS game up to that 60fps target.
mesh shaders also can dramatically improve performance.

both are highly situational tho. mesh shaders more so than VRS.
 

assurdum

Banned
VRS can actually really dramatically improve performance, or at the very least get a ~50FPS game up to that 60fps target.
mesh shaders also can dramatically improve performance.

both are highly situational tho. mesh shaders more so than VRS.
I find it dramatically improbable.
 

BeardGawd

Banned
Based on what's been reported, it seems there are optimizations in place for the XSX to have native 4K for ACV.

Ok. So they are trying to say series X uses graphic setting different to the ps5? Because optimization aren't magical things

VRS, SFS, 2 extra Teraflops, higher bandwidth RAM., 52 CUs for Ray Tracing.... these are all things devs can take advantage of on Series X.
 

assurdum

Banned
VRS, SFS, 2 extra Teraflops, higher bandwidth RAM., 52 CUs for Ray Tracing.... these are all things devs can take advantage of on Series X.
I agree solely about the CUs numbers but there are some variable to consider. The rest isn't all that superior over the ps5 hardware, there are very different approach in both hardware, which is really hard to qusntufy. People are too much invested to believe in PR proclaim stuff sometimes.
 
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NXGamer

Member
people better wait for DF comparisons. Comparing it to the PS4 Pro or Xbox One X situation is pretty dumb.

Upscaled likely means that it's running at a lower resolution and then upscaled to 4K. This lower resolution could very well be slightly under Native 4K. For this to be Pro/Xbox One X all over again, the PS5 version would have to run close to 1440p than Native 4K AND have lower resolution textures.
Not only DF...
 

quest

Not Banned from OT
Why is anyone surprised? The PS5 is weaker than the XSX.

However, it does not matter. The differences will be negligible during gameplay.

So who cares?
We should wait until both are released. Today should teach that lesson the series x and no Ray Tracing any time soon FUD.
 

itsnotme

Member
 

THEAP99

Banned
Watch Dogs Legions runs dynamic 4k on Watch Legions apparently. I wouldn't take Ubisoft's marketing buzzwords seriously ever guys

 

geordiemp

Member
Watch Dogs Legions runs dynamic 4k on Watch Legions apparently. I wouldn't take Ubisoft's marketing buzzwords seriously ever guys


True, XSX 1440p30 for ray tracing on WD.

Ubisoft do ubisoft. And people belive Valhalla will run nicely...,,mmmmm

Should know better than beleive jounalists reporting on rumours....not long now anyway.
 

cragarmi

Member
True, XSX 1440p30 for ray tracing on WD.

Ubisoft do ubisoft. And people belive Valhalla will run nicely...,,mmmmm

Should know better than beleive jounalists reporting on rumours....not long now anyway.
Yep it will be dynamic on BOTH, just Ubi being Ubi. Around 1800p most of time on PS5 and XSX. Sometimes higher on Xbox, sometimes higher on PS, it will be grassgate all over again!
 
Fanboys never learn from their mistakes.
It's one thing to "think" something may be true, but when you run with it as fact, majority of the time it has blown up in people's faces.
PS5 isn't hardware RT. Boom.
PS5 is more power cos insider said. Boom
XSX has no games. Boom
Halo is going to rule the console launches. Boom
No XSX games are going to have RT at launch. Boom
Ratchet & Clank rift scene change only possible on PS5 with it's SSD. Epic then release the same rifts on fortnight using HDDs. Boom

Let's just wait and see. A couple of weeks time and GAF will melt it's servers when the first DF comparison videos drop.
 
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The Alien

Banned
Uh-oh. The gen hasn't even started yet and we have our first resolution-gate game right out of the gate.

Buy hey...at least Sony's UI is in 4k, amirite?!
 
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