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PS5 Teardown: An inside look at our most transformative console yet
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Grinchy
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Damn, it's just so well thought out at every step. Dust catchers, insulated disc drive to limit noise while a disc is spinning, a fucking screw hole cover waiting inside the stand so that you can cover the vertical screw hole when it's horizontal 
Liquid metal as a thermal compound on a mass-produced unit? We didn't think that'd ever happen. A ridiculous cooling method as well.
A million laborious decisions went into crafting this and it shows. It's not just a bunch of parts crammed together with a matte shoebox acting as the sardine can.
Liquid metal as a thermal compound on a mass-produced unit? We didn't think that'd ever happen. A ridiculous cooling method as well.
A million laborious decisions went into crafting this and it shows. It's not just a bunch of parts crammed together with a matte shoebox acting as the sardine can.
Iced Arcade
Member
that liquid metal looks snazzy
jonnyp
Member
While I like the capability of a vaccumable dust catcher one has to wonder why go thru the effort of including one to begin with.
Seems like the cooling solution is susceptible to dust and might impede its performance. The average casual consumer might not know what to do when it inevitably gets clogged.
And now Sony is limiting their liability via a fine print:
They actually used the words "HARDWARE CLOGGING FROM DUST".
Are you misterxmedia in disguise?
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
While I like the capability of a vaccumable dust catcher one has to wonder why go thru the effort of including one to begin with.
Seems like the cooling solution is susceptible to dust and might impede its performance. The average casual consumer might not know what to do when it inevitably gets clogged.
And now Sony is limiting their liability via a fine print:
They actually used the words "HARDWARE CLOGGING FROM DUST".
This is just wrong. lol
Heatsinks on both consoles are going to collect a lot of dust. The only difference (which I believe now) is that you can clean the heatsinks without voiding warranty.
The "average consumer" will know how to clean vents easier in comparison to the Xbox series X. I'm only bringing this up because if people believe this is a huge problem for PS5, then it would be a bigger problem for the XsX.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
This is how you be a Samurai, respect your clan, give the teardown honor to a true engineer, and not anyone, Yasuhiro Ootori, VP, Mechanical Design Department, Hardware Design Division at Sony Interactive Entertainment. Not some amateur youtuber expert-wannabe.
And really appreciate that it was represented in Japanese, makes it even more epic!
And really appreciate that it was represented in Japanese, makes it even more epic!
Punished Miku
Gold Member
1) The system is huge.
2) I didn't realize it's not even a 1 TB drive. Maybe the 600+ GB rumor is true.
2) I didn't realize it's not even a 1 TB drive. Maybe the 600+ GB rumor is true.
DrAspirino
Banned
Same could be said about Boeing with their new Boeing 737 Max and look what happened.
Or about Microsoft and the Windows Vista fiasco.
Or about Apple and their thermal-throttling MacBooks.
WhiskeyDiver
Member
Conformal coating or clear, non-conductive nail polish about an inch or two around the cpu and gpu sockets does a great deal to help avoid a liquid metal on something like an exposed path trace or resistor and frying the entire thing if a droplet of liquid metal lands on one of thems.
Anytime I have done liquid metal applications, they have never resulted in any kind of short if I use something to protect the PCB surrounding a cpu socket/ gpu die.
Edit: At first I went EWWW at the green and...oh god the tan/beige colored PCB, but a part of me felt nostalgic building my first 486.
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killatopak
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Same could be said about Boeing with their new Boeing 737 Max and look what happened.
Or about Microsoft and the Windows Vista fiasco.
Or about Apple and their thermal-throttling MacBooks.
That was the PS3 and 360.
Sony and Xbox are on their Windows 7-10 phase.
Kdad
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NeoGAF implementing a basic reading comprehension test before getting posting rights....not a bad idea.
HerjansEagleFeeder
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This is how you be a Samurai, respect your clan, give the teardown honor to a true engineer, and not anyone, Yasuhiro Ootori, VP, Mechanical Design Department, Hardware Design Division at Sony Interactive Entertainment. Not some amateur youtuber expert-wannabe.
And really appreciate that it was represented in Japanese, makes it even more epic!
Please tell me this is satire and it just went over my head.
nikolino840
Member
What metal? The only liquid metal in ambient temperatures is mercury but the vapor of the mercury is dangerous
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
They are seeing the screw and the flange from one of the fan covers.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Mercury is the most well known, there are others that are not toxic like mercury.
Liquid metal - Wikipedia
Epic Sax CEO
Banned
PS5 SOC may be longer but they say that thicker is best, so SeX is really better than the PS5.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Slurpy2k20
Member
The engineering of this looks a LOT more interesting and engineered than the Series X, which is essentially a bunch of rectangular things shoved into a bigger rectangular thing.
Rocco Schiavone
Member
Damn, it's just so well thought out at every step. Dust catchers, insulated disc drive to limit noise while a disc is spinning, a fucking screw hole cover waiting inside the stand so that you can cover the vertical screw hole when it's horizontal
Liquid metal as a thermal compound on a mass-produced unit? We didn't think that'd ever happen. A ridiculous cooling method as well.
A million laborious decisions went into crafting this and it shows. It's not just a bunch of parts crammed together with a matte shoebox acting as the sardine can.
nikolino840
Member
Well..francium is radioactive...so i think no...Mercury is the most well known, there are others that are not toxic like mercury.
Liquid metal - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Maybe gallium that is used also for semiconductors?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Yeah, it would be gallium
Liquid metals come to the rescue of semiconductors
Moore's law is an empirical suggestion stating that the number of transistors doubles every few years in integrated circuits (ICs). However, Moore's law has started to fail as transistors are now so small that current silicon-based technologies are unable to offer further opportunities for...
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Captain Ashley
Banned
I reckon there will be some crazy designs like winged panels and such.
killatopak
Member
ThaMonkeyClaw
Member
Mercury is the most well known, there are others that are not toxic like mercury.
Liquid metal - Wikipedia
It is either Gallium or a Gallium/Iridium mix, I have a tube of Gallium at my house that I bought to play with, it is non-toxic and in room temperature is a soft metal but lightly heated up it becomes liquid (basically just putting it in your hand), mixing in Iridium with adjust that thermal solid to liquid threshold.
Insane Metal
Member
So the PS5 APU should be a fair amount cheaper than XSX's as I presumed a few months ago since it has a much smaller die area and working CUs. And that extra cost went to the huge heatsiink and extra fast SSD.
We shall see in the coming months if it was a worthy tradeoff.
JackNightblade
Member
lol who can possibly be bigger Sony shills than Sony thenselves? (and you btw)Glad they didn't let shills handle their homework. Great work, Sony.
side note: that thing is bigger than that dudes entire torso
Piku_Ringo
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iconmaster
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Fair point. The Xbox 360 power brick was huge.
I like consoles that don't require you to find space for a second box apart from the main unit, but there is a footprint cost to it.
turn on captions on youtube
Manwithoutfear
Member
not challenging your statement here. I'm legit asking. Every time I've looked into liquid metal it's been nothing but horror stories and how it corrodes the tops of cpus etc. I think even Linus did a video on it (could be mistaken and too lazy to look).
Not necessarily. Higher clocks mean higher binning = less working chips from each wafer.
kuncol02
Banned
Vista wasn't that bad, after hardware manufacturers fixed drivers and PCs started to get more than 1gb of ram. Last versions of Vista are working almost like Windows 7.Same could be said about Boeing with their new Boeing 737 Max and look what happened.
Or about Microsoft and the Windows Vista fiasco.
Or about Apple and their thermal-throttling MacBooks.
Fun fact: NVidia drivers were responsible for 30% of blue screens on Vista.
kingpotato
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LordOfChaos
Member
And really appreciate that it was represented in Japanese, makes it even more epic!
What if they presented it in Kurosawa Mode?
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Bo_Hazem
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killatopak
Member
I was under the impression that only happens when the clocks significantly above the average threshold of that particular generation of chips.
If the rumors are right, RDNA2 GPUs have higher average clocks than RDNA1. I feel like Xbox could have made their clocks higher but is limited by the power(wattage) budget as 300-350W is already at the high end of console power consumption.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
The fan could provide the wind effect!
Md Ray
Member
The heatsink definitely looks like those found on PC graphics cards. Thicc and lengthy.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
kuncol02
Banned
You know that liquid metal is not some new magic technology? It's known for years. I had it in notebook 10 years ago and even then it wasn't something new.
Amazon.com: Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut Liquid Metal Thermal Paste, 1g: Computers & Accessories
Amazon.com: Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut Liquid Metal Thermal Paste, 1g: Computers & Accessories
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I will tell you, that it is terrible to clean from anything. Application is even worse, or was, I never tried that again.
Pretty sure the Xbox fit together like lego bricks because they versions they gave DF had special magnets on specific components to showcase it to the public. In reality youre not gonna be able to to pull it apart easily.
Its also not clear at all which one will be cooler lol. Nobody has their hands on either console running next gen games so until then, there is no answer
ZywyPL
Banned
You just gave then an idea for a DLC to Astro Playroom ;p
Investor9872
Member
Do you think the axial fan will pull in more air with both the top and bottom plates taken off?
My thinking is that those people who wanted to take the face plates off, because they make the PS5 look too big, shouldn't do it since it may mess with the PS5's airflow and thermal dynamic designs. Now lets say if the top and bottom plates don't help channel that much more (or less) airflow into the PS5, taking them off AND standing the PS5 vertically (vs horizontally) so that the air is sucked in equally from both sides is a viable to do?