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[FunkMiller]

I bought an XBox One to

You got proof of that? We are all waiting for it BTW. Also plenty of realtime footage was confirmed by Digital Foundry in the event with their tech analysis.

Games with actual gameplay like Ratchet and Clank, Kena, Astrobot, BugSnax and Gran Turismo was shown that there.

Alot more than your 99.9% right?

If you can't prove this then just accept that it was a pro consumer moves to show games running off the PS5.

Sony learned something very heavy lessons in the past about bullshots and straight up lying about what they were showing. It hurt them, and I don’t see them repeating the same mistakes. Everything we saw was running on Ps5. They wouldn’t have been as explicit as they were if it wasn’t. Far too easy to be found out and discredited in this day and age.

 

[aliadiere25]

STFU, foo. No one said Microsoft didnt have a counter. But if you follow Sony's history, theyre playing the same shit theyve done for decades. They better hope it works out for them and GP and Xcloud isnt something the gaming community actually embraces. If it is, Sony will have trouble. Namely being left behind as the rest of the industry moves forward.

 

[Panajev2001a]

You guys don't remember the tomb Raider timed exclusive drama do you? MS did it that time so it was exactly opposite to this thread.

Find me Sony being holier than thou about this and me defending that attitude. Else it is just another example of fanbase following leader that says everything and does everything and its opposite... accusing the competition of anti consumer tactics to pave the way for a “we are just adapting to them” or even better letting your fans explain your hypocrisy/sanctimonious attitude away.

 

[MHubert]

You guys don't remember the tomb Raider timed exclusive drama do you? MS did it that time so it was exactly opposite to this thread.

I do remember and it was equally as silly, but honestly I understand why these things might upset some people; It just doesn't constitute an actual problem.

 

[Thirty7ven]

On Tomb Raider, people were upset that it was exclusive and then they were upset that MS wasn’t using its timed exclusive language with intent on fooling people to believe it was full exclusive.

But yes people were upset. Probably more people were upset, because you know, there are more people playing on PlayStation.

But I don’t remember this anti consumer BULLSHIT. That’s a new one.

 

[thelastword]

Find me Sony being holier than thous about this and me defending that attitude. Else it is just another example of fanbase following leader that says everything and does everything and its opposite... accusing the competition of anti consumer tactics to pave the way for a “we are just adapting to them” or even better letting your fans explain your hypocrisy away.

Exactly. MS's history on just this thing is storied........I never heard Andrew House, John Kodera or Jim Ryan talk about MS is anti-consumer or were ever constantly on twitter or on interviews smack talking the competition....

I never heard Kaz Hirai go out for Don Mattrick in the 360 days when he was rolling in all that GTA and COD DLC, spending all that Gears money on Epic or to Bioware for Mass Effect and Bioshock. Never heard a peep from smiling Kaz, he just stuck his head in and gave us back to back GOTY's and the most GOTY's a single platform ever received in one generation.

When Sony went to MS in the 360 days for crossplay, MS mocked Sony, yet Sony never came back and had a stink about it....Look at how MS went about Sony wanting to do Crossplay with them cautiously and on their owntime, especially when they thought security wise they had to be careful after the hack on PSN.....In this generation, MS execs tried to tear Sony apart with attacks on being anti-consumer as if it is up to Sony to expand XBONE's MP player pool......Pretending that Sony was against crossplay when Sony was the pioneer of crossplay on consoles since PS2 on a large scale with PC.....Sony just did'nt trust MS and were careful going in after their arrogant response in the 360 days.....This is the same MS, that does things only to benefit them but cries when the cake is not shared with them.....


MS as a company talking about anti-consumerism is the most laughable and ironic thing I've heard this entire decade...

 

[Drewpee]

No, they are paying to make their console have an advantage over another ...... it's called business.

Grow up.

Also if the reports are to be believed, MS where out in the market as well .... Sony simply outbid them according to the reports. So those games might not have come to PS5.

Its the reality of the business and I am glad the platform I choose to support is doing its best to insure more choice and better games come out on that console.

Like I said, its a matter of perspective. If the rumor is true just know Xbox will have no choice but to respond (or get out of the business) so you should expect to lose a few multiplatform titles on Playstation as well. As someone who only games on Playstation. that is going to hurt gamers like you the most.

 

[TheGreatWhiteShark]

hai! have you guys by any chance seen "insider matt" ?
I think he's gone missing in action

 

[Thirty7ven]

hai! have you guys by any chance seen "insider matt" ?
I think he's gone missing in action

Where is Matt? In that thread, asking questions Dusk doesn’t want to answer. Funny that. Why wouldn’t he answer?

Guys like Dusk always fall back to “It’s what I heard, I don’t control what I hear.”

 

[MasterCornholio]

hai! have you guys by any chance seen "insider matt" ?
I think he's gone missing in action

Realistically, how is Microsoft expected to compete with Sony next generation? Can they?

I'll clarify a point, I'm speaking from a small pool of people's experiences. The 1080p60fps comment comes from one game in particular, it's not a detail I made up and is based on something factual, but I also could see some potential reasons behind it. IE, the engine for example is a...

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I'll clarify a point, I'm speaking from a small pool of people's experiences. The 1080p60fps comment comes from one game in particular, it's not a detail I made up and is based on something factual, but I also could see some potential reasons behind it. IE, the engine for example is a developer-specific engine (homemade engine), maybe something about that engine works better for Xbox X than PS5 specifically or something.

That isn't the only dev I've talked to a bit about this, but the one where that comment came from. I meant to use it as an example of a singular case, but I should've clarified that better. As I said earlier, I realize I'm speaking to a small subset of all people, and different devs may have different experiences. I've even specifically heard since last March that the PS5 is pretty simple to develop for and a big advantage to it is one can develop very quickly & efficiently for it with less concern to certain time-consuming processes they previously had to optimize for (specifically with loading is what I've heard most), but an issue is the two consoles have some very different strengths, so optimizing for both takes a bit more work and "personalization" for both platforms. There probably will be some interesting development on that front as a result.

If I made anything confusing, I do apologize. I more meant to comment passively but I unintentionally made it more about what I said, and that's on me. I still have heard what I've heard, but I want to make it clear I'm speaking not as someone who has specifically gone out of his way to collect data from multiple people in a research fashion, just someone with some friends/acquaintances who are making games for PS5 & Xbox X right now and their personal experiences. And I thought that tidbit would be interesting to throw out as I tend to think many are being a bit too down on Xbox, but I think the climate when some more details come out will be more interestingly even between the two than so one-sided.

 

[MrFunSocks]

Sony explicitly noted everything after GTA5 in their presentation was running on PS5 hardware. Devkits would also count as PS5 hardware.

The same Sony that explicitly stated that the original 60fps uncharted 4 reveal trailer was running on PS4 hardware, when it was confirmed by naughty dog to be a pre-rendered video recorded by using the PS4 as a render farm using rendering techniques that their engine literally could not do in real time. So it was a video file being played back on a PS4 lol.

Unless you literally see someone on stage playing it on a console, it’s not running on a console. A PC is no different than a dev machine.

 

[Frito_Pendejo]

As a fan of the NFL 2K series, exclusive deals like this suck for almost everyone.

 

[Zato]

Like I said, its a matter of perspective. If the rumor is true just know Xbox will have no choice but to respond (or get out of the business) so you should expect to lose a few multiplatform titles on Playstation as well. As someone who only games on Playstation. that is going to hurt gamers like you the most.

Im a PC gamer an have gamepass on PC. I buy PlayStation because they have the best first party games (Nintendo are good but I don't like their games).

Also, the rumour states MS were already trying to buy exclusivity (they already have, look at their games showcase) but Sony beat them in these games the rumours are referring to.

 

[Zato]

The same Sony that explicitly stated that the original 60fps uncharted 4 reveal trailer was running on PS4 hardware, when it was a pre-rendered video recorded by using the PS4 as a render farm. So it was a video file being played back on a PS4 lol.

Unless you literally see someone on stage playing it on a console, it’s not running on a console. A PC is no different than a dev machine.

I wanna see receipts.

You can believe what you wish but games where left out because they werent ready to be shown running native on hardware.

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

Wow this place is going to get crazy. We have already seen what impact an exclusive character already has. Just imagine when it's actual games?

Grain of salt though because it could be false in the end.

Ive been saying on our podcast (And Reset) for most of this year that Sony is in moneyhat mode. Everyone is playing catch up

 

[prinz_valium]

"Insider" Matt

The guy that said PS Now had higher market share than Game Pass and Github wasn't right.

 

[TheGreatWhiteShark]

snip

He is the guy that broke that Ono messed up and getting demoted/fired, before it was news (capcom).

Dusk Golem: Street Fighter VI delayed out of 2021

www.neogaf.com

No cryptic one-liners like "insider matt", he also says that ps5 will be more expensive than xbox (not the series s)

 

[MrFunSocks]

I wanna see receipts.

You can believe what you wish but games where left out because they werent ready to be shown running native on hardware.

Receipts:

NX Gamer : Xbox Showcase Reveal Event | Review and Technical Analysis (Halo Infinite)

I guess Microsoft did set people's expectations really high. If I'm not mistaken they made comments on how they were building it for the XSX and how the X1 wouldn't hold they version back. It's normal that some people were expecting alot more. Plus that 2018 trailer, which had me thinking I...

www.neogaf.com

 

[onQ123]

hai! have you guys by any chance seen "insider matt" ?
I think he's gone missing in action

I can tell you what this is & it's not surprising , Games made the old way will run better on Xbox SX because it was designed to enhance cross platform games & games made for next generation is going to run better on PS5 because it was designed for a new generation of games.



In short low quality/detail cross gen games that don't go beyond what we already have in this generation will run better on Xbox SX but games with higher level of detail & next gen features will run better on PS5.

 

[Dabaus]

"Insider" Matt

The guy that said PS Now had higher market share than Game Pass and Github wasn't right.

He was right about git hub though, it wasn’t the full picture. As for psnow, at one point it did have more market share before MS gave the service away for a dollar on pop tart boxes.

 

[Entroyp]

He is the guy that broke that Ono messed up and getting demoted/fired, before it was news (capcom).

Dusk Golem: Street Fighter VI delayed out of 2021

www.neogaf.com

No cryptic one-liners like "insider matt", he also says that ps5 will be more expensive than xbox (not the series s)

I’m ready to play my PS games on a $600 console at 1080p/30fps for the next 6-7 years. It sucks there are no alternatives worth a damn.

 

[recursive]

ITT: A bunch of armchair nerds with MBAs that never took a business class.

 

[Werewolfgrandma]

Exactly. MS's history on just this thing is storied........I never heard Andrew House, John Kodera or Jim Ryan talk about MS is anti-consumer or were ever constantly on twitter or on interviews smack talking the competition....

I never heard Kaz Hirai go out for Don Mattrick in the 360 days when he was rolling in all that GTA and COD DLC, spending all that Gears money on Epic or to Bioware for Mass Effect and Bioshock. Never heard a peep from smiling Kaz, he just stuck his head in and gave us back to back GOTY's and the most GOTY's a single platform ever received in one generation.

When Sony went to MS in the 360 days for crossplay, MS mocked Sony, yet Sony never came back and had a stink about it....Look at how MS went about Sony wanting to do Crossplay with them cautiously and on their owntime, especially when they thought security wise they had to be careful after the hack on PSN.....In this generation, MS execs tried to tear Sony apart with attacks on being anti-consumer as if it is up to Sony to expand XBONE's MP player pool......Pretending that Sony was against crossplay when Sony was the pioneer of crossplay on consoles since PS2 on a large scale with PC.....Sony just did'nt trust MS and were careful going in after their arrogant response in the 360 days.....This is the same MS, that does things only to benefit them but cries when the cake is not shared with them.....


MS as a company talking about anti-consumerism is the most laughable and ironic thing I've heard this entire decade...

So companies and people are not allowed to evolve and become better? Attitudes can change. Saying you used to be shitty so I'm allowed to be shitty now is a terrible attitude. Bought timed exclusives are bad regardless of who is doing it. I am against it when MS is doing it and I'm against it when Sony is. This use going to be difficult for you especially to understand, but I hold every company to the same standards

 

[wolffy71]

You drive by but didn't counter my argument much. I like you only know what they make public. But a resounding success wouldn't be hidden in the financials. Where are all these people paying full price for Gamepass? Please enlighten me.

You drive by but didn't counter my argument much. I like you only know what they make public. But a resounding success wouldn't be hidden in the financials. Where are all these people paying full price for Gamepass? Please enlighten me.

You're assuming something that you cant prove and treating it as fact. Theres not much to debate when your entire argument is baseless so why bother.

 

[TheGreatWhiteShark]

Receipts:

NX Gamer : Xbox Showcase Reveal Event | Review and Technical Analysis (Halo Infinite)

I guess Microsoft did set people's expectations really high. If I'm not mistaken they made comments on how they were building it for the XSX and how the X1 wouldn't hold they version back. It's normal that some people were expecting alot more. Plus that 2018 trailer, which had me thinking I...

www.neogaf.com

well, the good news here are that sony slowly but steadily comes closer to not pulling our leg in console launch periods.
I mean, we had Saddam Husein hoarding supercomputer playstations to guide nuclear attacks on USA
Then, we had all these professionally made cgi videos of motorstorm and killzone
Using just a farm of playstations, well, that's a great advancement towards sincerity

 

[TheGreatWhiteShark]

I can tell you what this is & it's not surprising , Games made the old way will run better on Xbox SX because it was designed to enhance cross platform games & games made for next generation is going to run better on PS5 because it was designed for a new generation of games.

In short low quality/detail cross gen games that don't go beyond what we already have in this generation will run better on Xbox SX but games with higher level of detail & next gen features will run better on PS5.

oh, I see. so is this like a performance ...raincheck for the future?
btw, are you by any chance "insider matt"'s cousin?

 

[splattered]

I can tell you what this is & it's not surprising , Games made the old way will run better on Xbox SX because it was designed to enhance cross platform games & games made for next generation is going to run better on PS5 because it was designed for a new generation of games.



In short low quality/detail cross gen games that don't go beyond what we already have in this generation will run better on Xbox SX but games with higher level of detail & next gen features will run better on PS5.

Keep dreaming.

The only games that will ever take advantage of the PS5 SSD are first party titles, and it will be mid to end of next gen before things probably get really interesting.

 

[onQ123]

oh, I see. so is this like a performance ...raincheck for the future?
btw, are you by any chance "insider matt"'s cousin?

I would tell you to get a umbrella but you're a shark so the rain don't matter but see you in a few months , Guess who getting all the next gen games that push pass the limitations of the current generation & guess who getting low quality/detailed games with higher resolution & frame rates? (for now anyway)

 

[Drewpee]

Im a PC gamer an have gamepass on PC. I buy PlayStation because they have the best first party games (Nintendo are good but I don't like their games).

Also, the rumour states MS were already trying to buy exclusivity (they already have, look at their games showcase) but Sony beat them in these games the rumours are referring to.

That wasn't the rumor if you read the thread. It says Sony contacted pretty much everyone in the gaming industry to find exclusive deals. Microsoft did not reach out for exclusive deals but when it was presented to them they didn't want to pay the same money.

Phil has also been against exclusive content like this for awhile now so it would go against their philosophy as a company. I'm not going to go to say Xbox wouldn't do the same, but If they did do this it would absolutely not be received the same by the gaming community.

We are making it acceptable because it is Sony making the move, ignoring what it will mean for the gaming industry as a whole. I hate thet double standard. Not because I love Xbox so much, but because it sets a terrible precedent with what Sony will be allowed to get away with in the future.

Let's throw out a hypothetical. What if Sony bought exclusive deals because they know their hardware will be much higher than gamers are expected? They will basically be saying "buy our $600 console or you can't play these third party games." I'm not saying that will be the case, but it will be very interesting to see what their console price will be now.


Also, Xbox has to retaliate if the games listed are going to be exclusive, even for awhile. There is no way they can sit back and allow that to happen. Sony would have made them look very weak in the industry with this type of move. Maybe Sony just exposed how bad Xboxs relationship is with 3rd party developers. It will be interesting to see what they do next.

 

[onQ123]

Keep dreaming.

The only games that will ever take advantage of the PS5 SSD are first party titles, and it will be mid to end of next gen before things probably get really interesting.

SMH keep thinking that when Epic was happy to show off Unreal Engine 5 on PS5

 

[Klayzer]

oh, I see. so is this like a performance ...raincheck for the future?
btw, are you by any chance "insider matt"'s cousin?

Serious question. What previously banned user are you? Are you an alt of woeismark? That was the only guy on these forums that used the same stupid grinning emoji after every post. Your posting style and incessant Sony shitposts are eerily similar.

 

[prinz_valium]

He was right about git hub though, it wasn’t the full picture. As for psnow, at one point it did have more market share before MS gave the service away for a dollar on pop tart boxes.

Sure Ps Now had a bigger market share, when Game Pass didn't exist yet.
Later that year it turned out the service had around 300k subscribers and Game Pass "millions".

Also both SOCs in the Github leak ended up in the retail Ps5 and Series X with their 4 CUs disabled.
Just because Sony went for boost clocks does not make his stupid comments anywhere close to being right.
He always bashed against Github and Gitbub turned out to be 99% correct. Even Cerny talked about the 2GHz being tested at fixed clocks.


But sure people like to spin the words spoken so if you do that and interpret it that way it could may be right somehow.
It's exactly like Astrology. That guy is no insider. He never revealed or leaked anything. He only jumps with vague statements on some other real insider information.
Such an troll. And people really fall for it.


Also someone in a real position to know all that stuff he claims to have known, would not waste their live on internet forums to troll.
I seriously don't hope you believe in that fraud

 

[Leyasu]

I would tell you to get a umbrella but you're a shark so the rain don't matter but see you in a few months , Guess who getting all the next gen games that push pass the limitations of the current generation & guess who getting low quality/detailed games with higher resolution & frame rates? (for now anyway)

This is fucking pure gold.

Fuck straight outta Compton, this is straight outta N4G

This level of nonsense should be banable

 

[Drewpee]

I would tell you to get a umbrella but you're a shark so the rain don't matter but see you in a few months , Guess who getting all the next gen games that push pass the limitations of the current generation & guess who getting low quality/detailed games with higher resolution & frame rates? (for now anyway)

PC gamers?

So funny watching the celebration coming from Sony fans who are completely ignoring that every first party Sony game will be coming to the PC lol they didn't invest in Epic because Epic needs a few dollars. They will be putting that relationship to use. That probably means not only will the games be on PC but you will be forced to buy them through the Epic store

 

[MasterCornholio]

He is the guy that broke that Ono messed up and getting demoted/fired, before it was news (capcom).

Dusk Golem: Street Fighter VI delayed out of 2021

www.neogaf.com

No cryptic one-liners like "insider matt", he also says that ps5 will be more expensive than xbox (not the series s)

I just quoted him or are you saying his last comment isn't worth reading?

 

[TheGreatWhiteShark]

Serious question. What previously banned user are you? Are you an alt of woeismark? That was the only guy on these forums that used the same stupid grinning emoji after every post. Your posting style and incessant Sony shitposts are eerily similar.

that's not a serious question at all.
and what's with this patronizing? first people were telling me to put an avatar on, now not to use the embedded emoticons?

I just quoted him or are you saying his last comment isn't worth reading?

all his comments are worth reading like 1000X of insider matt's
you have to put it in perspective though, like I wrote way above, the guy who broke inside info on capcom, probably is not basing his comments on the single-person indy dev that still has not seen the devkits and is making mobile phone games.
he also said that what he's saying is "based on a few friends of his who are actually developing on both machines, as well as a few other insiders", and that makes at the very least four sources.

 

[jimbojim]

He always bashed against Github and Gitbub turned out to be 99% correct.

Yeah, regarding XSX, not PS5

 

[DForce]

hai! have you guys by any chance seen "insider matt" ?
I think he's gone missing in action

Matt already responded.

PS5 will be similar to a Ryzen 5 1600 and RTX 2070 Super.


PS5 struggling to hit 1080p 60fps is laughable. It has more than enough power to hit 1080p and over 60fps.

 

[Zato]

That wasn't the rumor if you read the thread. It says Sony contacted pretty much everyone in the gaming industry to find exclusive deals. Microsoft did not reach out for exclusive deals but when it was presented to them they didn't want to pay the same money.

Phil has also been against exclusive content like this for awhile now so it would go against their philosophy as a company. I'm not going to go to say Xbox wouldn't do the same, but If they did do this it would absolutely not be received the same by the gaming community.

We are making it acceptable because it is Sony making the move, ignoring what it will mean for the gaming industry as a whole. I hate thet double standard. Not because I love Xbox so much, but because it sets a terrible precedent with what Sony will be allowed to get away with in the future.

Let's throw out a hypothetical. What if Sony bought exclusive deals because they know their hardware will be much higher than gamers are expected? They will basically be saying "buy our $600 console or you can't play these third party games." I'm not saying that will be the case, but it will be very interesting to see what their console price will be now.


Also, Xbox has to retaliate if the games listed are going to be exclusive, even for awhile. There is no way they can sit back and allow that to happen. Sony would have made them look very weak in the industry with this type of move. Maybe Sony just exposed how bad Xboxs relationship is with 3rd party developers. It will be interesting to see what they do next.

Phil is full of shit, that Xbox games show case was riddled with "console release exclusive" ..... are you paying attention? They have already paid out.

 

[Zato]

Matt already responded.

PS5 will be similar to a Ryzen 5 1600 and RTX 2070 Super.


PS5 struggling to hit 1080p 60fps is laughable. It has more than enough power to hit 1080p and over 60fps.

Yeah that guy is a clown, totally deluded.

 

[Zato]

Receipts:

NX Gamer : Xbox Showcase Reveal Event | Review and Technical Analysis (Halo Infinite)

I guess Microsoft did set people's expectations really high. If I'm not mistaken they made comments on how they were building it for the XSX and how the X1 wouldn't hold they version back. It's normal that some people were expecting alot more. Plus that 2018 trailer, which had me thinking I...

www.neogaf.com

They stated how they did things in development, they never said that trailer was exclusively made that way.

 

[MasterCornholio]

that's not a serious question at all.
and what's with this patronizing? first people were telling me to put an avatar on, now not to use the embedded emoticons?



all his comments are worth reading like 1000X of insider matt's
you have to put it in perspective though, like I wrote way above, the guy who broke inside info on capcom, probably is not basing his comments on the single-person indy dev that still has not seen the devkits and is making mobile phone games.
he also said that what he's saying is "based on a few friends of his who are actually developing on both machines, as well as a few other insiders", and that makes at the very least four sources.

And what makes the PS5 a 1080P 30FPS machine?

 

[BootsLoader]

If they are making them then why do they need to waste money on these deals? As a Playstation player, I get no bonuses to FF7 being a PS4 timed exclusive over it launching on everything day one. They could spend the money actually improving their eco-system and services as well as make more games and everyone would be happy

You may not get the bonuses but Sony gets em. I know, personally, 2 people who bought a PS4 just for FFVII remake. I really don’t understand you people. The more exclusivity deals they have, the more people will buy their console, the more software they will sell, the more money they’ll make.

I hope this makes sense for you.

 

[Bryank75]

The Halo demo was 4K 60..... just goes to show resolution isn't everything..... quality of assets, streaming speed, lighting etc etc are more important.

We will see how things turn out.... right now, everything Sony showed practically looked much better and ran on PS5 hardware.
Everything Xbox showed looked underwhelming and was on a PC with unknown performance to benefit from...

 

[CatLady]

Funny enough you like all the games MS has a marketing deal with or which are timed-exclusive to Series X. CP2077 will be enjoyed on PC and PS as well regardless of platform, I just hope CDPR does not gimp the PS5 version as they did the PS4 version of Witcher 3. I don't think the medium or ascent will be as good as you think, especially the medium. There will be much better games for horror. Quantum Error looks much more impressive and of course RE8, Silent Hill are much higher calibre horror games to look forward to, but Quantum error has so much atmosphere, I'm looking forward to it more than medium and Scorn. I think Scorn looks good though, but the gameplay I saw of it was much too slow for that type of genre. Again, it's not going to light Meta on fire, there will be much better games in the very genre, tonnes of heavy weights too, especially when rumor has it that Team Siren is on the prowl with another Siren.

At least Volcano High knows what game it wants to be, so we can expect to see the game sometime soon. Rare does not even know what Everwild is going to be yet...

Why would you not want CP2077 to be gimped? It seems all you Sony boys are cheering for gimping games Sony has made deals on. I won't cheer or cry if they do, just like I'm not cheering or crying about Sony doing it. I would prefer both companies NOT do it, but after how proud Sony fans are of exclusive gimping for the PS5 I might be tempted to laugh my ass off if Xbox did pay CDPR or From to gimp their games on the PS5.

I'm also curious why you seem so disappointed that I'm not affected or bothered by Sony supposedly locking up content on 3rd party games, because it doesn't affect any games I'm plan to play. You're VERY defensive about the games I'm looking forward to and have a need to criticize and find fault with all of them. You claim some of those games multiplat (yeah, so what) or try to explain how the Xbox 3rd party exclusives somehow aren't as good as the Sony 3rd parties. Scorn is "not going to light Meta on fire". That remains to be seen.

You're looking forward to those your list war, well good for you. I'm not interested in them but do you honestly think Quantum Error or Volcano High is going to "light Meta on fire"?

 

[TheGreatWhiteShark]

And what makes the PS5 a 1080P 30FPS machine?

He is talking about one specific game there. Unless you know what the game is and what it is pushing for, it's very hard to know where the bottleneck is.
Anyway, here's what he had to say both on power and price:

It's better you read it and draw your own conclusions.

Why would you not want CP2077 to be gimped? It seems all you Sony boys are cheering for gimping games Sony has made deals on. I won't cheer or cry if they do, just like I'm not cheering or crying about Sony doing it. I would prefer both companies NOT do it, but after how proud Sony fans are of exclusive gimping for the PS5 I might be tempted to laugh my ass off if Xbox did pay CDPR or From to gimp their games on the PS5.

oh you are one mean catlady

 

[MasterCornholio]

He is talking about one specific game there. Unless you know what the game is and what it is pushing for, it's very hard to know where the bottleneck is.
Anyway, here's what he had to say both on power and price:

It's better you read it and draw your own conclusions.




oh you are one mean catlady

Vastly more powerful system at a cheaper price?

I'm not really buying that.

 

[Bryank75]

He is talking about one specific game there. Unless you know what the game is and what it is pushing for, it's very hard to know where the bottleneck is.
Anyway, here's what he had to say both on power and price:

It's better you read it and draw your own conclusions.




oh you are one mean catlady

It was already running at 4K and nearly 30 and is a year or so out.... it obviously needs optimization.

Since it was running on PS4 Pro at 4K previously, I'm pretty certain his details are either incorrect or misrepresented.

So far from what was shown at Xbox and PlayStation events...it looks like PlayStation has nothing to fear.... everything Xbox has shown has been an embarrassment o just a CGI tease. Most were not even running on XSX.... but a PC.

 

[Thirty7ven]

Dusk Golem is already rewriting his story.

 

[SirTerry-T]

Why do you assume that timed exclusive deals doesn't help fund development?

I wasn't talking about funding development, I was talking about a Dev studio being brought out to save them from going under.
There's a difference.