You mean a boohoo over the best aspect of LoU and what differ it from other zombie games? Sure thing, no big deal.
But she played with dogs! And helped saving a mother Zebra!!! Can't you see how good and relatable she is!?I do not understand people for whom MicroBoobsBuchBitch backstory humanized her in any way.
MBBB still written as psychopath and all around c**t who loves violence and enjoys killing and torture.
There are no sympathetic qualities bout her.
I do not understand people for whom MicroBoobsBuchBitch backstory humanized her in any way.
MBBB still written as psychopath and all around c**t who loves violence and enjoys killing and torture.
There are no sympathetic qualities bout her.
Nah, she has good muscles in the upper arm, but the lower arm still looks feminine (aka thinner). Abby simply has (ripped) man's arms in the game. Not to mention the woman in this photo looks fit overall, not 'big' like Abby.I low key think I found her body model at Dicks sporting goods today.
im sorry but ellie would kill anyone in her path and she did
She tried to not kill the pregnant woman and Owen, but they attacked her. She tried to not kill Nora.
She killed the people she needed to kill to get to Abby. That was her goal.
Ellie showed remorse, Abby didn’t.
how is she supposed to know that Ellie was remorseful and didn't kill them in cold blood?
What are you taking about? Of course it's good writing!It's called "good writing". But it's not present in that game...
Abby doesn't know Ellie, she only knows she killed her lover and his pregnant wife.
What Abbie knows is a result of the script. I.e. bad writing remains bad.
That's just circlical thought and not an argument at all. Everything that happens is a result of a script in any book, movie, videogame. You can't just label the writing bad and start off from there to make a point.
Abby is certainly not a psychopath lol.
She's not at all. It was a rumor/meme that got out of hand as a result of the leaks.So wait
I am playing - a dozen hours in...
It sounds like Abby is/was dating Owen. Is that so? So she’s not an LGBTQ character as people first thought!
I thought this was one of the ballsiest narratives I've experienced in a game. I went in without having been spoiled at all. I just finished it and I'm a bit of an emotional wreck
The decision to kill Joel off so early just infuriated me. I got put in the shoes of this character Abby, who after being saved by Joel turns around and tortures and kills him. I felt implicated, and it was so sudden it felt unearned. Who the fuck is this butch ass Abby?
First point where the game really made me feel the hatred narrative it was going for.
And slowly but surely the death of Joel would be the bedrock for the game. It added weight to every scene he was in. You saw the growth of Ellie and Joel together. Knowing that Joel would die, every happy moment or sad moment had more weight for me. It was like thinking of the things you regret saying to a passed loved one.
I felt justice hunting down Joels killers as Ellie. And then Druckmann had the balls to pull the rug from me again when it was all unravelling, this can't Abby was about to win. And now I'm playing as her?
I was ready to throw my controller out the window. I'm glad I didn't though. I played as Abby, first hating the experience. Then it got more and more interesting. Some truly incredible moments in her arc. As much as I just wanted to be back as Ellie, the quality of these moments kept surpassing themselves. The tower of clickers was one of the scariest levels I've had in a game. Closesly followed by the hospital basement. The scars island was insane.
I ended up feeling like I still wanted her dead, but I understood her completely as a character in a way that is rare for an antagonist
And then Druckmann does it again. I'm fighting Ellie as Abby. Are you kidding? I died like 5 times trying not to win. Its a pretty rare feeling in a game and I appreciated it even if it was so uncomfortable.
By the end I maintained this strange mix of emotions. I got to play as Abby one last time and for the first time I was excited to be in one of her parts. And when it came to the final fight it felt so earned, a true character story of both protagonist and antagonist really fundamentally built up in a way I can't compare. I both wanted Abby dead and didnt want her dead. I think I felt very much like Ellie did and that was a great success for story telling
As it all tied back to Joel and Ellie I was left bitter-sweet as the credits rolled just as the first game had left me
If you're avoiding this game because "SJW" I'd implore you to reconsider and go in with an open mind. Anything like thst is really just background. I'd call out pandering nonsense wherever I see it but that's not this game. Every narrative beat is earned
and abby killed people that she needed for many years too. but other she saved or spared at first so they not get in her way , when they still did , i duno i would be pissed too and angry, and in those moments you easily can loose your shit and do bad things. as there are not good characters there , and im cool with that , i would go and kill everyone too because i just wouldnt care , so its same for both characters for me , i would do that as they did when i played for them and maybe even more. but ending was great , i agreed with that conclusion too.She tried to not kill the pregnant woman and Owen, but they attacked her. She tried to not kill Nora.
She killed the people she needed to kill to get to Abby. That was her goal.
Ellie showed remorse, Abby didn’t.
Context: Ellie just murdered Abby's pregnant friend and another person that Abby is in love with. And Abby didn't go through with killing Dina or Ellie.
Ellie killed in self defense. And she didn't know the woman was pregnant. Both are bad gals. But the games tries tor force you to empathize with Abby.Context: Ellie just murdered Abby's pregnant friend and another person that Abby is in love with. And Abby didn't go through with killing Dina or Ellie.
So who's the bad guy here?
Upon scrutiny, there's a line that reveals an ugly character side of her. She thinks Joel deserved worse but she wishes she wasn't a part of it.Joel gets killed early on and later the game tries to show to the player the other side of a coin, problem none of that worked as they thought it would, all the hate towards the Joel is so forced especially from the side characters, the only character I somewhat felt for was Mel.
Well, she did say that, but where's violence in that?Upon scrutiny, there's a line that reveals an ugly character side of her. She thinks Joel deserved worse but she wishes she wasn't a part of it.
Think about it. She wishes for the violence, just not around her.
She's not doing the violence but she wishes more violence was done.Well, she did say that, but where's violence in that?
Yup, and it's done poorly IMO. Especially with how the events are handled in the game, lol.Ellie killed in self defense. And she didn't know the woman was pregnant. Both are bad gals. But the games tries tor force you to empathize with Abby.
Joel gets killed early on and later the game tries to show to the player the other side of a coin like "look how I suffered, please feel sorry for me too", problem none of that worked as they thought it would, all the hate towards the Joel is so forced especially from the side characters, the only character I somewhat felt for was Mel.
Yes. What we got here was flat. There are even parts of it that are just smooth like gray clay. It wasn’t scary looking at all. I couldn’t even tell what I was looking at until I opened it up in the model viewer.That concept art is so damn good.
It's terrifying. It reminds me of Alien Storm.
Why do you assume you're meant to feel sorry for her? The theme of the game is how far hate will drive you. She is not meant to be felt sorry for, she is a reflection of how bad Ellie could be if she falls further down the path of hate and revenge. And that revenge will just leave you hollow in the endJoel gets killed early on and later the game tries to show to the player the other side of a coin like "look how I suffered, please feel sorry for me too", problem none of that worked as they thought it would, all the hate towards the Joel is so forced especially from the side characters, the only character I somewhat felt for was Mel.
I dont think you have any clue what good writing isWhat Abbie knows is a result of the script. I.e. bad writing remains bad.
I dont think you have any clue what good writing is
The one that felt bad about killing people.Context: Ellie just murdered Abby's pregnant friend and another person that Abby is in love with. And Abby didn't go through with killing Dina or Ellie.
So who's the bad guy here?
How are you not? It's obvious "we're gonna kill beloved protagonist, but we will give you so much to make you love this character by the end of the game that you'll forget everything. The whole Abby part is a giant filler that doesn't tie into the main theme of this game, gameplay doesn't evolve and force you to change your way playing and throwing the player out of comfort the zone. Abby doesn't look like she cares about the humanity, cure and what would it mean if not for Joel's actions. Yeah dad died which sucks, but I can still bench press and do bicep curls. So many missed opportunities and unnecessary things at the same time in this game IMO.Why do you assume you're meant to feel sorry for her? The theme of the game is how far hate will drive you. She is not meant to be felt sorry for, she is a reflection of how bad Ellie could be if she falls further down the path of hate and revenge. And that revenge will just leave you hollow in the end
I enjoyed playing as Abby, I felt for her and understood her at moments, but always felt she had gone too far and should die.
could be 1h, could be 3. Depends on how many times you die.How long is the santa Barbara stuff?
How are you not? It's obvious "we're gonna kill beloved protagonist, but we will give you so much to make you love this character by the end of the game that you'll forget everything. The whole Abby part is a giant filler that doesn't tie into the main theme of this game, gameplay doesn't evolve and force you to change your way playing and throwing the player out of comfort the zone. Abby doesn't look like she cares about the humanity, cure and what would it mean if not for Joel's actions. Yeah dad died which sucks, but I can still bench press and do bicep curls. So many missed opportunities and unnecessary things at the same time in this game IMO.
The Last of Us has always been shades of grey. The characterisations are not there purely to make you like or hate them. Joel, Ellie, Abby and even minor characters.How are you not? It's obvious "we're gonna kill beloved protagonist, but we will give you so much to make you love this character by the end of the game that you'll forget everything. The whole Abby part is a giant filler that doesn't tie into the main theme of this game, gameplay doesn't evolve and force you to change your way playing and throwing the player out of comfort the zone. Abby doesn't look like she cares about the humanity, cure and what would it mean if not for Joel's actions. Yeah dad died which sucks, but I can still bench press and do bicep curls. So many missed opportunities and unnecessary things at the same time in this game IMO.