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Xbox Series X Could Release Months Before PlayStation 5 Rumor
Kokoloko85
Member
Plenty people paid for another 360 like myself.
Yeah because most people would go buy another 360 full price when MS can send you a new one for free. Makes sense
Also if the real install base was closer to 40 million, then why were 3rd parties selling more on the 360 than on PS3? Yeah thought so. Bye.
“Yeah thought so bye”. Stop trying to be quick whitty lol, Doesnt suit you. Are you like 12?
Plenty people bought another 360, when theres broke. Like myself.
Which 3rd party are you talking about? Fifa, Cod and Red dead?
Or Final Fantasy 13, Street fighter 4? Because its not all equal lol
Ive already said the 3rd party was better on 360 so whats your point?
If you dont think having a year advatage, and most the other points I made didn’t help Xbox 360 have an advantage in sales that gen, then you are in denial. They wont have those benefits again going into next gen.
No year advantage, cheaper hardware, better hardware for 3rd party, much more advanced online infrastructure. Having many Playstation titles coming to xbox for the 1st time. These werent advantages? They were and they wont have them again.
PS2 outsold XBox og by over 6 times
PS3 outsold 360 despite a horrible start and uphill battle
PS4 outsold Xbox 1 by more than double.....
Xbox is never gonna be close to PS again...Try not to cry.....K BYE
DunDunDunpachi
Patient MembeR
Both brands are more entrenched than they were last gen. A few months between the XsX and PS5 will make even less of a difference than the Dreamcast launching before the PS2.
Dodkrake
Banned
Halo is not an Xbox exclusive though
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Replacements were free.
oldergamer
Member
If PS5 doesn't launch in october or latest being early November, they won't launch this year. It will get pushed to next year. The biggest shopping day will be the USA thanksgiving.
Also if we don't see what the playstation looks like by end of July, i mean the final console itself, I doubt we will see it this year.
Also if we don't see what the playstation looks like by end of July, i mean the final console itself, I doubt we will see it this year.
KingT731
Member
It's actually true to an extent. MS was indeed fixing 360s for free mid 2007 but a lot of people weren't sending them (some not aware they could) and were just buying another 360. If it were possible to get a poll out for how many people purchased multiple 360s during the lifespan of the console the numbers would be staggering. Not saying they accounted for 30M consoles but the number is very large.Yeah because most people would go buy another 360 full price when MS can send you a new one for free. Makes sense
Also if the real install base was closer to 40 million, then why were 3rd parties selling more on the 360 than on PS3? Yeah thought so. Bye.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
New consoles don't need shopping days. They sell. Even Xbox One was sold out.
Ascend
Member
PlayStation was already an established brand, was released earlier, had a longer lifespan, and did not have a conflict with its hardware manufacturer. There's a reason MS never used nVidia again.
Was there anything more horrible than the RROD?
And there is zero evidence that the PS3 actually outsold the X360. The data indicates that in 2017 the PS3 sales were 3 million higher than the last known data for the X360 in 2014. 3 million more in 3 years is not exactly accurate enough to draw any conclusion. It was pretty much a tie.
And we all know why. MS made some pretty large mistakes in their launch and marketing of the Xbox One.
Past events are not a guarantee for future results. If that was the case, the Wii U would have outsold everything since the Wii did so well. Did not happen. So let's not jump to conclusions here. MS does not seem to be making the same mistakes. This might be the first generation where there is real competition between Xbox and PlayStation, without any obvious major faults on either side.Xbox is never gonna be close to PS again...Try not to cry.....K BYE
SuperLupeRap
Banned
Plenty people paid for another 360 like myself.
“Yeah thought so bye”. Stop trying to be quick whitty lol, Doesnt suit you. Are you like 12?
Plenty people bought another 360, when theres broke. Like myself.
Which 3rd party are you talking about? Fifa, Cod and Red dead?
Or Final Fantasy 13, Street fighter 4? Because its not all equal lol
Ive already said the 3rd party was better on 360 so whats your point?
If you dont think having a year advatage, and most the other points I made didn’t help Xbox 360 have an advantage in sales that gen, then you are in denial. They wont have those benefits again going into next gen.
No year advantage, cheaper hardware, better hardware for 3rd party, much more advanced online infrastructure. Having many Playstation titles coming to xbox for the 1st time. These werent advantages? They were and they wont have them again.
PS2 outsold XBox og by over 6 times
PS3 outsold 360 despite a horrible start and uphill battle
PS4 outsold Xbox 1 by more than double.....
Xbox is never gonna be close to PS again...Try not to cry.....K BYE
Bro I said bye. Don't waste your time writing paragraphs of verbal diarrhea that I won't read
MiyazakiHatesKojima
Banned
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Steve.1981
Unconfirmed Member
LazyParrot
Member
RMA defective console -> buy brand new console -> once your refurbished console arrives, put it in the box of the new one and sell it on eBay as barely used using the receipt as proof. Repeat as necessary.Yeah because most people would go buy another 360 full price when MS can send you a new one for free. Makes sense
That's how people did it around here, anyway.
SuperLupeRap
Banned
Not around here.
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Steve.1981
Unconfirmed Member
So...
1. Buy brand new console.
2. If RRoD, get refurbished for free.
3. Buy another brand new console.
4. Sell refurbished console as barely used.
5. Repeat if necessary.
6. Profit?
Gamernyc78
Banned
Wow what great news quick someone make another thread about "ps5 can release months earlier"
As long as they both are out for holidays where the real big sales occur none of tht will matter.
If I were buying both consoles I'd prefer months apart Soni can get to give both alot of time.
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TLZ
Banned
Ok.
So there is evidence. I thought there wasn't.
So you say no evidence PS3 was in front, then produce evidence it was, then discard evidence because you said so, then increase 360's numbers to PS3's based on no data whatsoever and call it a tie. Because you said so.
So PS4 is successful because of this? A fluke?
DaGwaphics
Member
Most of the broken units were replaced under warranty. MS didn't lose billions on that warranty program for nothing. LOL MS won the markets they targeted aggressively with 360, in much more impressive fashion than PS4 this gen.
You read some crazy things on here.
On topic with thread, they should release as early as possible. Get as many of your die-hards out of the way before the holidays and try to have a solid restock for the GP. I've always thought launching consoles during the holiday shopping period was the dumbest thing, Nintendo was smart to get the early adopters in without erasing supplies for holiday availability.
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JareBear: Remastered
Banned
I guess "months" could mean 2 months, so XsX in October, PS5 in December?
Bladed Thesis
Member
RROD were covered under extended warranties. Those numbers aren't factored in final numbers.
The Hamburglar
Banned
Honestly it doesn’t matter if series x launches 2 months or 1 year earlier with Phil personally giving you a handjob with every console sold.
ps5s SSD will deliver.
ps5s SSD will deliver.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Launching a console eariler isn't an advantage or disavanatage.
dorkimoe
Member
Facebook articles probably
I wish they would just release this shit so I can stop seeing people speculate and pretend they know what theyre talking about. "Guys Microsoft and Sony are playing chicken with the price, and their billion dollar companies are going to announce the price based off the other company and no market research or analytical data"
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
That would be awesome. If we end up getting both of these earlier than I expected, that would be a great treat Q4 2020.
I guess it kinda makes sense, their official reveals were a couple months apart, right? (I forget when the XsX was officially revealed, but it was late march/early April, right?)
Definitely hope this is true. Need these puppies hooked up to my TV asap
Ascend
Member
Microsoft stopped reporting the X360 sales after 2014. That doesn't mean that X360 sales stopped. Nobody knows the exact numbers, and anyone claiming that they do, is lying. And I don't think I need to explain why you can't compare numbers from 2014 to numbers from 2017. If you want to take the last two known sales numbers that are 3 years apart as a victory for the PS3 to make yourself feel better, go ahead.
The PS4 was more successful because it did most things right before launch while the Xbox One didn't. That's it.
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alabtrosMyster
Banned
I'm wondering how many units will be available for each of these consoles.
Either way, if all they have is essentially an xbox X X (it runs the same games as the one X--but with some improvements again)... few will care among those who did not care for the X to begin with.
Either way, if all they have is essentially an xbox X X (it runs the same games as the one X--but with some improvements again)... few will care among those who did not care for the X to begin with.
Kokoloko85
Member
awww, look at those xbox 1 sales.... now look at people thinking xbox series x has a chance.... how cute.... and retarded
Kokoloko85
Member
Yes but many people bought some more and not waited
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Deleted member 471617
Unconfirmed Member
Would be great but I still see November 6th as the release date because I don't believe the exclusives will be ready for September or even October. I'm hoping for The Ascent, Gears Tactics and Halo Infinite at launch as that would be huge for me because it would be three games that im going to play and complete.
Before COVID-19, I believed that September was almost a definite for Xbox Series X but now, I believe they stick with November. My personal opinion is that Microsoft should release Series X on November 6th for $400. Then phase out Xbox One over the next two years and by Fall 2022, they introduce Series S for $200. Both consoles would be insane value and for those still waiting two years later and possibly not having a 4K HDR TV, the Series S for $200 would be perfect for those consumers.
Before COVID-19, I believed that September was almost a definite for Xbox Series X but now, I believe they stick with November. My personal opinion is that Microsoft should release Series X on November 6th for $400. Then phase out Xbox One over the next two years and by Fall 2022, they introduce Series S for $200. Both consoles would be insane value and for those still waiting two years later and possibly not having a 4K HDR TV, the Series S for $200 would be perfect for those consumers.
MMaRsu
Banned
Lmao.. in the end yeah.
In Europe and a lot of other territories 360 completely took over.
Kokoloko85
Member
Im typing so people can see your points are nonsense. 3rd party sales.....
Dont waste your time convincing yourself XBox will outsell PS5 next gen lol.
Or Even come close....
Bye
Caffeine
Member
their butt
Kokoloko85
Member
https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/gaming/consoles/how-the-playstation-3-won-the-console-war-1196215
https://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/01/10/figures-show-ps3-has-finally-outsold-the-360/
https://www.ign.com/articles/2013/01/10/report-ps3-surpasses-xbox-360s-worldwide-shipped-total
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/927749-xbox-360/70441866
https://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/news...-in-the-us-for-first-time-in-32-months-433889
MS isnt a company to not mention outselling PS3 if they did so lol....
They be saying it from the top of there voices
Yes Past doesnt guarentee anythhing, but unless Xbox is $100 cheaper, released months and months ahead and Playstation makes tons of mistakes. I dont see the Xbox brand selling more then Playstation or Nintendo anytime soon
Kokoloko85
Member
No there is rought numbers and MS not mentioning them means there wasnt much more.
They mentioning numbers when they were ahead. All companies do this, Nintendo and Playstation.\
Seriously who wouldnt praise they outsold Playstation 3 if they did.
Its because 360 didnt sell much more after 77 mill
“Numbers don't lie
Don't believe me? Here, have some numbers. Mattrick & co's box of tricks has sold 78.84 million units worldwide so far. Kutaragi's mean machine has sold 80.29 and counting.
In fact, PlayStation 3's still selling so well in its twilight that there's a genuine chance it can surpass the Wii's 100 million mark and enter the books as this generation's biggest seller hands down (let's be clear: no-one is buying Wiis anymore).
Those numbers are impressive enough at face value, but factor in Xbox 360's 14-month headstart and they illustrate a miraculous reversal of fortune for Ken's console.”
DaGwaphics
Member
Kokoloko85
, PS3 probably did win the global tally, Xbox is a less global brand. However, they won every market they wanted to win that generation, full stop. Sales vary a great deal by region, PS4 has outsold the X1 by more than 2:1 globally, however in the US market things look quite a bit different. You have to examine the numbers completely.
Sw0pDiller
Member
What games is it going to be launched with? Gamepass? 
But in all seriousness: if you see the amount of hype the PS5 brings without it even being showed and only a "massively awesome" third party PS5 clip breaking the internet i dont think MS has got any choice than to launch first AND be cheaper. The GPU advantage will not stick for long when the games are hitting.
But in all seriousness: if you see the amount of hype the PS5 brings without it even being showed and only a "massively awesome" third party PS5 clip breaking the internet i dont think MS has got any choice than to launch first AND be cheaper. The GPU advantage will not stick for long when the games are hitting.
Elder Legend
Banned
Did you even bother listening to the first minute of the video? Its not a rumor, it's the dudes personal speculation. Holy shit lol, pay attention to what you post before spreading lies and rumors that are not actual rumors.
Kokoloko85
Member
They did well but they were still outsold worldwide.
Winning Markets but not outselling the competitor when so far ahead and losing complete momentum the next gen wastes everything they worked for.
Yes I look at global markets, Europe and Asia And South America, Not just NA
Im not talking just the US market, its not really relevant and the proof is if they are equal in NA, they still outsold them 2:1, because of the world Lol.
Xbox can take NA, it will be close but worldwide Xbox wont sell more then 50-60 million units again. And Sony will sell more than 90+
PS3 was ther4 worse gen by far, they were ridiculed out the gate, the US and European news was all doom and gloom, how sony and PLaystation were doomed. For years that was the story. I doubt PS5 will have the same narritive.
I mean you have amatuar journalist claiming Xbox gamepass success is the signs of how Xbox will beat PS5 but that type of shit aint gonna work next gen like it did in 360/PS3 era
LazyParrot
Member
Profit isn't really the goal. These people were convinced refurbished consoles had a higher chance of getting another RROD than a brand new one.
loktaiextatus
Member
Why do you say that ? RROD has nothing to do with clock or heat it's a solder issue on Xbox and ylod is a capacitor issue .
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
Could work out best this way, November could give Infinite another month or two to bake in the oven
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loktaiextatus
Member
"Did so well" means people who owned 360 games had to re buy their console to play them some multiple times. In my circle of friends alone there were twice as many 360s sold as there were people to play them. This is good for Microsoft hardware shipped numbers , not great for games sales and horrible for user base growth ... people are beginning to forget but RROD memories were one of the driving motivations for many Xbox fans who went with ps4 this gen.I don't get where people get the idea that the 360 was last.
Who Finally Won: PS3 or Xbox 360? - The Escapist
www.escapistmagazine.com
And even then, people forget the RROD. The fact that the console did so well despite the RROD is actually remarkable.
In any case, releasing a few months earlier probably won't have much of an influence. People are willing to wait a few months to get the console they want. The image prior to launch is what is important. It's what ruined the whole Xbox One generation.
loktaiextatus
Member
Not all not for everyone and not after a certain amount of time . If you bought a launch Xbox and it RROD in 2009 you were SOLyou owned like 20 games and had a year or Xbox live paid up? Sorry bud you're going out to buy another one . That happened to tons of people.
SuperLupeRap
Banned
Feel better now ?
LittleBusters
Banned
No, XSX can't launch without Halo: Infinite.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
No it didn’t